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Post by tarkintino on May 19, 2022 12:02:57 GMT -5
Somebody must be a Clone Saga fan. Nope. Not a fan of that, either.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2022 12:12:08 GMT -5
Just a thought: I preferred X-Factor over X-Men back in the day (and I’m irked that X-Factor is now associated with Simon Cowell’s shows).
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Post by Batflunkie on May 19, 2022 13:23:43 GMT -5
Just a thought: I preferred X-Factor over X-Men back in the day (and I’m irked that X-Factor is now associated with Simon Cowell’s shows). The mainline books really didn't do much for me and I've never cared for Claremont's style of writing. There are a good number of comics (Elementals, DP7, DNAgents, and Harbinger come to mind) out there that do the X-Men formula way better tbh
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Post by MWGallaher on May 19, 2022 13:34:01 GMT -5
Forgot about Marvel Tales! Yes, I'm sure I did the same thing when I started reading it Another title that comes to mind for me back during the mid/late 70's to early 80's was Superman Family. Can't give you any real reason why, but something jumped out at the newsstand for me when I'd see that title. I don't know if this contributed to the "jumping out" for you, but to me, it felt pretty radical that for (I think) the first time, DC departed from the classic, inimitable "Superman" logo and went with something more stylish and contemporary. I'm not arguing that it was better, but that it gave SUPERMAN FAMILY a sense of daring and boldness. The content may not have merited that impression, but the new logo conveyed it.
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Post by kirby101 on May 19, 2022 13:41:55 GMT -5
Somebody must be a Clone Saga fan. Quite the reverse. Overlong and convoluted. Should have been a 12-issue maxi-series. So what about Untold Tales made you want to fight me?
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Post by kirby101 on May 19, 2022 13:43:42 GMT -5
I like J.M. DeMatteis and Sal Buscema on Spectacular Spider-Man better than Amazing Spider-Man from the same time frame. In retrospect, DeMattesis re-used a lot of his ideas from Captain America, but I loved how there was this whole dynamic between Peter Parker and Harry Osborn that only played out in Spectacular Spider-Man and resulted in two classic stories. It probably doesn't count, but for a long time Classic X-Men was my second favorite X-book. More recently, I've been enjoying Gotham Central, which I assume fits under the umbrella of the Bat titles. Legends of the Dark Knight was quite a good alternative to the Batman books back in the day. Punisher War Zone was pretty cool for the first arc with JRJR on art. I really liked Sal's Spectacular, especially when he inked himself.
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Post by berkley on May 19, 2022 13:48:12 GMT -5
King Conan was better than Conan the Barbarian for a while in the late 1970s or early 1980s.
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Post by kirby101 on May 19, 2022 14:17:04 GMT -5
King Conan was better than Conan the Barbarian for a while in the late 1970s or early 1980s. If you mean after Buscema left, yeah.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2022 14:28:54 GMT -5
Quite the reverse. Overlong and convoluted. Should have been a 12-issue maxi-series. So what about Untold Tales made you want to fight me? Clones aside, I wasn’t a fan of Untold Tales. I wasn’t a fan of the premise. Seems in comics (and this could be my perception), that ‘untold tales’ is code for ‘the best tales ever, which we’re bringing to you now’. But if the ideas for the stories were so great, why weren’t they told in the first place, rather than untold?
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Post by jason on May 19, 2022 14:43:48 GMT -5
I kind of found West Coast Avengers more interesting than the core Avengers book in the 80s. Half of that was because I was an Iron Man fan and he was a member, but the California setting offered more possibilities for stories set in that area.
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Post by Batflunkie on May 19, 2022 14:44:07 GMT -5
So what about Untold Tales made you want to fight me? Clones aside, I wasn’t a fan of Untold Tales. I wasn’t a fan of the premise. Seems in comics (and this could be my perception), that ‘untold tales’ is code for ‘the best tales ever, which we’re bringing to you now’. But if the ideas for the stories were so great, why weren’t they told in the first place, rather than untold? X-Men The Hidden Years was kind of like that too
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Post by badwolf on May 19, 2022 14:47:52 GMT -5
Clones aside, I wasn’t a fan of Untold Tales. I wasn’t a fan of the premise. Seems in comics (and this could be my perception), that ‘untold tales’ is code for ‘the best tales ever, which we’re bringing to you now’. But if the ideas for the stories were so great, why weren’t they told in the first place, rather than untold? X-Men The Hidden Years was kind of like that too Well the point of Hidden Years was to fill in a gap when the X-Men weren't having new stories published.
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Post by kirby101 on May 19, 2022 14:51:26 GMT -5
So what about Untold Tales made you want to fight me? Clones aside, I wasn’t a fan of Untold Tales. I wasn’t a fan of the premise. Seems in comics (and this could be my perception), that ‘untold tales’ is code for ‘the best tales ever, which we’re bringing to you now’. But if the ideas for the stories were so great, why weren’t they told in the first place, rather than untold? Seriously? Why didn't Busiek and Oliffe do Spider-Man in 1962 instead of Ditko and Lee? Or why didn't Ditko come up with the same stories as Busiek? What you are saying makes no sense.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2022 15:03:49 GMT -5
In my simple way of thinking, the charm of Untold Tales of Spider-Man is that love letter to the past. As great as the Lee/Ditko era was in its entirety, imagine if we could have gotten a few more stories to soak in that period. Since the key events are already established in the classic run, I don't feel like the untold stories were "needed" per se to further elevate the legacy of the character, but more they allowed for a very fun nostalgic romp.
Total respect for all opinions as always, sometimes stuff grabs you, sometimes it doesn't!
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2022 15:09:25 GMT -5
Forgot about Marvel Tales! Yes, I'm sure I did the same thing when I started reading it Another title that comes to mind for me back during the mid/late 70's to early 80's was Superman Family. Can't give you any real reason why, but something jumped out at the newsstand for me when I'd see that title. I don't know if this contributed to the "jumping out" for you, but to me, it felt pretty radical that for (I think) the first time, DC departed from the classic, inimitable "Superman" logo and went with something more stylish and contemporary. I'm not arguing that it was better, but that it gave SUPERMAN FAMILY a sense of daring and boldness. The content may not have merited that impression, but the new logo conveyed it. I actually think you may have nailed that for me as well. I hadn't thought about the logo that way, but as I look back at some of the covers, that totally does pop out to me. And also agreed, at least to my tastes, it wasn't like the content itself was notably better.
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