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Post by james on Jan 26, 2022 17:36:56 GMT -5
After watching Peacemaker (pretty good by the way). I thought I’d ask which of the big 2 have more non superpowered heroes or villains, and how many can you name by memory only. Honor system here so no googling or Wikipedia. I understand that everyone will have a different idea of non superpowered. For me I think those that have armor or extra limbs( I’m looking at you Doc Ock) are “superpowered.
Peacemaker judo master White Tiger Black knight Black widow Electra Kraven Punisher Robin Batman Bucky Baron Zemo Hellcat Ringmaster Lex Luthor Black cat Wildcat Batgirl Riddler Penguin Fixer Dr Faustus I know that there are hundreds more but again off the top of my head.
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Post by berkley on Jan 26, 2022 17:53:12 GMT -5
I'm a bit hazy in regard to the line between powered and non-powered for some characters. Didn't Kraven drink a "jungle potion" or something? Wouldn't the Ringmaster's hypnotic hat count just as much as Doc Ock's mechanical tentacles?
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Post by Dizzy D on Jan 26, 2022 18:09:57 GMT -5
Yeah, it can be really hazy: Elektra in Elektra: Assassin has basically ninja-superpowers. The 50s Black Knight was invulnerable when holding his sword and the later ones could magically summon the weapon to their hand. Wildcat had some 9 lives type of thing going. Black Cat had bad-luck powers in some of her appearances.
Anyway adding to the list: Hawkeye Green Arrow Melter (just holding a gun) Captain Cold (just holding a gun) Nemesis Moon Knight (not counting the time where he was bitten by a werewolf) Nick Fury (I think the Infinity Formula was something he took from time to time and not an inate power?) Huntress The Enforcers (though Ox was replaced by his twin brother with superhuman strength I believe?) Hellcat (though again, she had powers occassionally)
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Post by james on Jan 26, 2022 18:16:24 GMT -5
I'm a bit hazy in regard to the line between powered and non-powered for some characters. Didn't Kraven drink a "jungle potion" or something? Wouldn't the Ringmaster's hypnotic hat count just as much as Doc Ock's mechanical tentacles? I was actually thinking the same thing. So maybe it’s better to say those that have just their natural abilities(mind or body) that they have honed over the years. I guess that the best way to put it.
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Post by badwolf on Jan 26, 2022 18:37:57 GMT -5
White Tiger's jade pendants do... something.
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Post by Chris on Jan 27, 2022 2:17:25 GMT -5
Just from memory, no research. But I have a stupid memory that recalls the most useless stuff but not if I paid the bills this month. I put it under the fold so others can join in before reading my list. {Spoiler: Click to show}The Guardian The Newsboy Legion Blue Beetle The Question Midnight The Ultra-Humanite (before he started surfing bodies like that shady friend of yours from high school surfs couches) 'Mazing Man Gangbuster Manhunter... not that one, the other Manhunter in the blue suit (the one Roy Thomas used in All-Star Squadron, who didn't like the other guy) The Red Bee Firebrand (original version) Doctor Cyber Batgirl Robin The Huntress Sportsmaster and Huntress (the other one) Wildcat The Human Cannonball Mal (70's Teen Titans) The Joker The Joker's Daughter/Harlequin Harlequin (original version) Two-Face Killer Moth The Cavalier Wendy and Marvin Captain X/Aviator Catwoman Baron Bedlam (he got powers during the story but didn't start out with them, and they didn't last long) About three different villains with "Zodiac" in the name that I can't recall properly right now The inestimable Captain Boomerang Colonel Future (original version)
Borderline cases, not sure if they count as having powers -
Bronze Tiger Richard Dragon Black Widow (I think this is the only Marvel character I remembered)
If we count "just holding a gun" (or a gimmick), Then we can count the following. Most of the Flash's Rogues Gallery, such as Heat Wave, the Trickster, Chillblaine, Golden Glider, the Turtle, Mirror Master, and even Abra Kadabra (his gadgets are just everyday items in his time period). Also Toyman and Terra-Man over in Metropolis (does a winged horse count as a super power? If not, we can count The Shining Knight) Also Phantom Lady, who a black light ray but no actual powers. Dr. Spectro The Sandman (original) Sandy the Golden Boy Deadshot Tarantula Per Degaton Signalman The Penguin Kobra
Not sure if Rick Flag counts as a superhero. Same with King Faraday. They headlined books and did a lot of heroic stuff, but not necessarily super heroic.I can remember all these obscure 4th and 5th rate characters (seriously, the Red Bee?), but I'm probably forgetting some really obvious ones. Suicide Squad and All-Star Squadron are a treasure trove of non-powered heroes and villains.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jan 27, 2022 7:51:27 GMT -5
If 'Just holding a gun' = no powers, then Tony Stark and Jim Rhodes count, no?
Most of those characters are holding a REALLY SPECIAL gun they made themselves, after all.
Moon Knight definitely has super-strength when the moon is out.. how much depends on the writer, but that's bee pretty consistent.
No one listed the Punisher, or the Bat-Family, ae they just too obvious? Or is having unlimited wealth count as a superpower?
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Post by Dizzy D on Jan 27, 2022 9:15:25 GMT -5
If 'Just holding a gun' = no powers, then Tony Stark and Jim Rhodes count, no? Most of those characters are holding a REALLY SPECIAL gun they made themselves, after all. Moon Knight definitely has super-strength when the moon is out.. how much depends on the writer, but that's bee pretty consistent. No one listed the Punisher, or the Bat-Family, ae they just too obvious? Or is having unlimited wealth count as a superpower? Punisher and the Bat-Family are in the first post.
In the original Moon Knight series he developed superstrength that increased when it was a full moon after a fight with Werewolf by Night, but that ability waned over the years. He later sometimes had superpowers and sometimes not.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2022 10:30:43 GMT -5
I count JJJ as a villain. He's at least an antagonist. I believe the horribly-named The Foreigner was super-power free. The Sin-Eater The Black Fox The Squid The Ventriloquist/Scarface
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Post by shaxper on Jan 27, 2022 10:40:47 GMT -5
Am I really blind, or is Batman not on the list?
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Post by Mormel on Jan 27, 2022 11:59:29 GMT -5
I count JJJ as a villain. He's at least an antagonist. That is libel, sir! Am I really blind, or is Batman not on the list? He's between Robin and Bucky.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jan 27, 2022 12:10:31 GMT -5
I count JJJ as a villain. He's at least an antagonist. That is libel, sir! Am I really blind, or is Batman not on the list? He's between Robin and Bucky.Wertham was right!
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Post by Marv-El on Jan 27, 2022 13:43:01 GMT -5
What about Captain America and Deathstroke? They both have enhanced physiques via artificial methods but don't possess superpowers per se. For example, could you say that Cap has peak human strength but not in the class of super strength such as Thing, Hulk, Wonder Man, etc?
The Question has already been mentioned.
You can't have Blue Beetle without mentioning Booster Gold, all of his abilties are tech-based.
Red Hood Roy Harper Prowler Mockingbird
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Post by EdoBosnar on Jan 27, 2022 14:17:34 GMT -5
Red Tornado (Ma Hunkel)
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jan 27, 2022 17:17:12 GMT -5
Am I really blind, or is Batman not on the list? I think we both missed the first post
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