Y'all know I'm a big Kyle fan... I always thought the fact that someone (wether it was Ron Marz or editorial, I have no idea) wanted him to be a 'Ladies' Man' didn't make sense. They STARTED him in a committed relationship than defined the tone of the series, after all.
When he ended up meeting and getting close with Donna Troy, it just made so much sense... Donna could take care of herself, and could relate to his struggles, so he wouldn't have to worry about a repeat of what happened to Alex.
It was also a rare relationship where the woman was older, which lead to a unique and interesting dynamic. I felt like this worked so much better than the forced relationship with Jade later, which was clearly just for a Alan Scott connection.
I was about to swap out something on my list for this relationship. I'm glad you included it.
I'm thrilled that these two have been mentioned so many times already, and I can't add too much to what everyone else has said so eloquently about this most charming of comic book couples. If only they could have been played in a movie starring Dick Van Dyke and Mary Tyler Moore.
I loved those stories in the back of Detective, so clearly inspired by Nick and Nora Charles. (Not that I realized that back then. When I saw the Thin Man movies, I thought to myself, "It's Ralph and Sue!")
They were mature, sophisticated, witty, and perfectly secure. No pettiness, no jealousy. Sue enjoyed shopping, Ralph enjoyed mysteries, and he never minded if Sue helped him solve them. What a contrast to the constant misogynistic treatment of Lois and Lana over in Weisinger's He-Man Woman-Haters Club. And much as I love his character, Ralph should not have been in the Justice League of America. He had no neuroses, no secret identity, no hometown to "patrol," nothing but the pursuit of fun as he and Sue crisscrossed the world.
That this couple, throwbacks to a gentler, classier age of comics, should have been subjected to the amoral fantasies and grisly tastes of fanboy writers and their fanboy followers is sadly typical of the lack of knowledge, respect and imagination they bring to comic books.
RIP, Ralph and Sue.
"The rarer action is In virtue than in vengeance." -- The Tempest, 5.1
Post by Slam_Bradley on Dec 20, 2021 10:26:47 GMT -5
7. Earth-2 Bruce Wayne and Selina Kyle.
I've talked about this book a lot, along with a few others from around the same time period. And these good folk have shown up here before. So all I have to add is that this was the appropriate culmination of forty years of waiting.
Post by Slam_Bradley on Dec 21, 2021 13:32:11 GMT -5
Random musings on Day Six
Ralph and Sue Dibny - I can't remember if we'd seen them before. But I chose them too. So cool.
Cerebus and Jaka - I didn't think of Cerebus and Jaka. But I also haven't read Cerebus in a long time and even then only through Church and State.
Jenny & Zot - I haven't read Zot in 30 years. I have virtually no memory of it.
Redlance & Nightfall - Elfquest is another of those books I've tried to read a number of times and have failed to make it very far. I mean I generally like what I read, but I burn out pretty quick. I'm not sure why. This can go ahead and cover all Elfquest couples.
Caiera and Hulk - I don't know who that first person is. Way after my time.
Madelyne Pryor and Scott Summers - I stopped reading X-Men very shortly after Jean Grey died. I only vaguely know who Madelyne Pryor is. I suspect that it all ended messily. Because...X-Men.
Troy and Paris - Great choice. I loved Age of Bronze and it was one of the last books I bought when I still had access to a comic shop. But the interminable delays and the fact that I can't get the books even when they come out meant it went by the wayside.
Valerian and Laureline - I've only read the first book or two. They were alright. I didn't really get much in the way of coupling from them though.
Brickhouse & Third Rail - I got nothing. I've read none of the Milestone books.
Airboy and Valkyrie (Golden Age) - I read the Airboy revival eons ago, but have never read the golden age books.
Adam Strange and Alanna - Again, I just can't deal with Silver Age DC in more than a book every few months. But good for them.
Kyle Rayner and Donna Troy - Huh. Who knew that was a thing?
I think this is one of the few Marvel/DC comics romances tocapture some of the feeling of the newsstrip adventure series I talked about in an earlier post. It helps that MoKF wasnt a superhero series and that it was influenced by adventure or thriller writing and film and that this story itself was probably influenced in part by Milton Caniff, as a later MoKF story was more obviously.
Regardless, this two-issue story wss a highlight of a series that had more than a few of them, and the relationship between Cat and Juliette is one of thekeys to the whole thing. As always in the best examples of this kind of story, the love interest, Juliette, is a strong peronality in her own right and clearly delineatec by writer Moench and artist Gulacy, inspired by the movies and i think comics they loved. Action (one, no two of the best extended fight scenes in comics history), intrigue, atmosphere, tnis one had it all, but in the end it really is a love story - and perhaps a love letter as well, from the creators to the stories they loved and were influenced by.
I've always liked Mera. I especially loved that she had her own powers that were different from Aquaman's, and she used her formidable hard-water powers in a variety of ways, similar to how Bobby Drake (who debuted a bit after Mera) and Sue Storm (when she got her force-field power) would use their powers back then. With her powerset Mera stood out from DC's other female heroes who had mostly identical powers/abilities of the male hero (such as Batwoman, Supergirl, Miss Arrowette, Bat-Girl, Hawkgirl, Barbara Gordon Batgirl). Mera should've been a member of the JLA; (almost) anything GL could do, she could do too!
In terms of Mera and Aquaman as a couple: I admit that Aquaman by himself, or with Aqualad, always seemed somewhat boring to me, but I liked it when when Mera took an active role in the adventures. And they were certainly a great-looking couple--thank you Nick Cardy!
from Aquaman #18's cover
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