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Post by brutalis on Aug 30, 2021 8:32:44 GMT -5
No more tired cliche of the evil alternate universe version of the hero and the villain as hero. At least stop it as the one note version please. Yes, it is a long standing concept which has posibilities, yet too many writers go with it and won't even try for doing anything unique, simply opting for the obvious.
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Post by tonebone on Aug 30, 2021 8:46:21 GMT -5
The biology of Zombies makes no sense. If by "zombie", you mean the word applied to reanimated / flesh-eating types, I do appreciate writers who at least try to explain the cause, instead of being like Robert Kirkman, falling back on the cop-out "its not about that," as if a theory in the fictional realm of zombie stories is going to overtake whatever the story happened to be.
Others have provided explanations--other than traditional voodoo--and no matter how "out there" the theory is, its addressing the "how and why", which is what naturally comes across many readers' / viewers' minds.
I prefer the term "Zuvembie", just in case the Comics Code Authority is watching.
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Post by impulse on Aug 30, 2021 8:51:46 GMT -5
This happens in movies more often than in comics, but still: kids who f$#@ things up for everyone because they're incapable of following simple instructions like "stay in this room and don't go looking for your dog". Now that I have kids myself, the kids not following basic and/or obvious instructions thing is far more believable and realistic to me. Sigh.
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Post by tonebone on Aug 30, 2021 8:52:30 GMT -5
I remember the "House" formula described somewhere as going through the first and second incorrect diagnosis before getting to the final and correct diagnosis. It got super old super fast. Yes it did. And what was a bit annoying also was that every cast member had a quick wit and hey all had comebacks to whatever was said. Maybe that's where Bendis got it from. That's known as Wheedonism, named after notorious creep Joss Wheedon.
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Post by EdoBosnar on Aug 30, 2021 8:58:30 GMT -5
No more tired cliche of the evil alternate universe version of the hero and the villain as hero. At least stop it as the one note version please. Yes, it is a long standing concept which has posibilities, yet too many writers go with it and won't even try for doing anything unique, simply opting for the obvious. In connection with this point, and narrowing consideration to Star Trek, I really can't stand the reuse of the mirror universe. The episode on the original series is awesome and rightfully a fan favorite and classic, and it probably should have been left alone after that. It annoyed me to no end when it was rather uncreatively used again in, say, DS9 and Enterprise.
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Post by mikelmidnight on Aug 30, 2021 11:25:40 GMT -5
In connection with this point, and narrowing consideration to Star Trek, I really can't stand the reuse of the mirror universe. The episode on the original series is awesome and rightfully a fan favorite and classic, and it probably should have been left alone after that. It annoyed me to no end when it was rather uncreatively used again in, say, DS9 and Enterprise.
I didn't like it in DS9 but did in Enterprise, maybe just because I felt the latter embraced the absurdity of the idea to a greater degree.
Addendum: I always felt that the end of "Mirror, Mirror" made no sense, and it ought to have been a two-part episode paired with "The City on the Edge of Forever."
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Post by kirby101 on Aug 30, 2021 14:04:17 GMT -5
Power dampening color or cuffs Completely illogical that any tech can remove any and all powers, including super strength, which is muscle mass, or even godhood or any other alien physiology. It is the worst dues ex machina.
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Post by profh0011 on Aug 30, 2021 14:59:12 GMT -5
No more tired cliche of the evil alternate universe version of the hero and the villain as hero. At least stop it as the one note version please. Yes, it is a long standing concept which has posibilities, yet too many writers go with it and won't even try for doing anything unique, simply opting for the obvious. I've been watching the current series THE FLASH... at a rate of one episode a week. I watched season 1, then watched it again, since it was like a season-long mystery, and I wanted to see the "mystery" twice before moving on.
Well, turns out season 2 is the same way. Only more so, and, a bit different.
In season 1, right from the sart, every single episode would end with a cliffhanger that, after watching an entire episode where this one character looked better and better, the cliffhanger would screw with your minds, to tell you, over and more, SOMETHING'S WRONG. But for most of the season, you didn't know what, and probably didn't want to believe it.
Season 2 was worse. For more than half the season, they built up this one character as a hero. And then... ABRUPTLY... halfway thru... you suddenly found out... HE WAS THE MAIN VILLAIN. How? How was this possible? Even when it was explained, it didn't quite make sense to me (and one character actually said on-screen the explanation didn't make sense, scientifically).
Now, it could be the writers had planned this from the beginning, and were just being far more devious than before. But today, as I re-watch the 2nd episode of season 2, it strikes me... there was NOTHING, no clue, no hint as to what was coming. And I've seen an instance of a writer who came in late in the game, took something that was a CHAOTIC MESS, and not only made it make sense, but did it so well, he made it seem it had always been planned that way from the beginning. (I'm thinking specifically of Archie Goodwin on CAPTAIN MAR-VELL #16.)
But in this case, especially when I add to it a new character who abruptly departed halfway thru the season (entirely due to some behind-the-scenes B***S***, so it wasn't planned that way). I can't help but wonder... did they plan it from the start? Or, was THE FLASH season 2 more like an "ARMAGEDDON 2001" sort of thing, where more than halfway thru, all the plans for the finale were changed abruptly, because something happened behind-the-scenes?
I tossed this at my best friend today, who's been watching the show regularly first-run from the beginning. He said it "never occured to him", but now, he's beginning to wonder.
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Post by impulse on Aug 30, 2021 16:12:16 GMT -5
Power dampening color or cuffs Completely illogical that any tech can remove any and all powers, including super strength, which is muscle mass, or even godhood or any other alien physiology. It is the worst dues ex machina. Plus all the angst it would save. Half the character development for Rogue and Gambit in the 90s is not being able to touch each other. Like guys, Genosha was giving these things away. Can't you get Prof X to make you one up for the bedroom and spare us all the sad far-off longing stares?
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Post by profh0011 on Aug 30, 2021 17:07:55 GMT -5
HOW many times has Professor X said that one of the reasons he finds and recruits mutants is to help them deal with and manage their powers? And yet, somehow, he could NEVER do that with Rogue?
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Post by Dizzy D on Aug 31, 2021 7:27:28 GMT -5
HOW many times has Professor X said that one of the reasons he finds and recruits mutants is to help them deal with and manage their powers? And yet, somehow, he could NEVER do that with Rogue?
In the end he did, but then she reverted a couple of years later, because comic book fans and writers are a superstitious cowardly lot.* It's the same with Reed never being able to cure Ben, except for all the cures he has done over the years.
*= I'm honestly unsure how much control Rogue has over her powers these days. She has used one of those power dampening devices a couple of time during her marriage, but in Excalibur, she never seemed worried about inadvertently touching somebody and could control her powers pretty well when she borrowed somebody's powers.
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Post by brutalis on Aug 31, 2021 8:09:44 GMT -5
How about no more society/humanity suddenly turning on, condemning, demanding justice on a hero for killing someone where it was done by/created by a villain posing as the hero and the hero is considered a traitor to all that is good and just? Only for all to discover the truth in the end and go, oh so sorry we ever doubted you? Sorry about that, won't happen again. At least until the next writer spins their version of this same old storyline...
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Post by impulse on Aug 31, 2021 8:58:35 GMT -5
In the end he did, but then she reverted a couple of years later, because comic book fans and writers are a superstitious cowardly lot.* It's the same with Reed never being able to cure Ben, except for all the cures he has done over the years. *= I'm honestly unsure how much control Rogue has over her powers these days. She has used one of those power dampening devices a couple of time during her marriage, but in Excalibur, she never seemed worried about inadvertently touching somebody and could control her powers pretty well when she borrowed somebody's powers.
Wait, Rogue was married? And she was in Excalibur? Man, I am out of the loop.
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Post by Dizzy D on Aug 31, 2021 10:59:41 GMT -5
In the end he did, but then she reverted a couple of years later, because comic book fans and writers are a superstitious cowardly lot.* It's the same with Reed never being able to cure Ben, except for all the cures he has done over the years. *= I'm honestly unsure how much control Rogue has over her powers these days. She has used one of those power dampening devices a couple of time during her marriage, but in Excalibur, she never seemed worried about inadvertently touching somebody and could control her powers pretty well when she borrowed somebody's powers.
Wait, Rogue was married? And she was in Excalibur? Man, I am out of the loop. Still married to Gambit, she left Excalibur for the newly reformed X-Men a month or two ago.
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Post by impulse on Aug 31, 2021 11:14:43 GMT -5
What is this still married and left Excalibur. I didn't even know she got married or went there in the first place, ha.
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