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Post by dbutler69 on Mar 4, 2021 15:36:51 GMT -5
Two years ago (has it really been two years?!) in honor of March Madness here in the States, I did a Top Superhero Team Tournament (which the Avengers won easily). This year, with March Madness back, though I’m getting a late start, I decided to do a tournament to decide the top decade between the Big Two, i.e. Marvel and DC.
The first round matchups are just Marvel vs. DC for each decade of the 1940’s through the 2010’s. I’m not quite sure yet how to determine the matchups for the subsequent rounds, though it’s my goal to have the two “best” decades not meet until the finals.
I'll leave each round's polls open for about a week.
This one closes March 11, 6 AM EST.
So which company's output do you like better - 80's Marvel or 80's DC?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2021 15:58:37 GMT -5
DC. I was working in a LCS then. And DC was generating a lot of excitement.
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Post by dbutler69 on Mar 4, 2021 16:05:19 GMT -5
This is the first decade where I am actually having trouble deciding. Definitely my toughest choice of the first round. OK, I'm having trouble with the 00's and 10's, but that's because I haven't read a lot from either decade.
DC has the New Teen Titans, Legion of Super-Heroes, All-Star Squadron, plus some really good Batman stuff (and not just the Frank Miller stuff) plus Watchmen, Camelot 3000, Green Arrow: The Longbow Hunters, plus a bunch more. Crisis on Infinite Earth was a disaster (IMHO) but the art was gorgeous!
Marvel was no slouch either. Master of Kung Fu was winding down, but X-Men was great in the early 80's until they jumped the shark in 1984 (though the quality had dropped when Bryne/Austin left in 1981 but it was still really good for a few years after that) plus the Avengers and Fantastic Four had some really great runs. Iron Man and Captain America also had some great comics in this decade, plus plenty of Marvel's endless miniseries were really good.
I haven't voted for this decade yet. I'm going to have to think some more on this one.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Mar 4, 2021 16:18:42 GMT -5
DC. Particularly from '86 on. A lot of the Marvel stuff I loved at the time I now find pretty much unreadable (X-Men). Though Miller's Daredevil seems to hold up.
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Post by kirby101 on Mar 4, 2021 16:31:16 GMT -5
DC gets it with DKR and Watchmen. Plus relaunched Superman.
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Post by Graphic Autist on Mar 4, 2021 16:36:05 GMT -5
Even split...I liked Marvel better in the early 80s, but by 1987 DC was the better of the two.
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Post by brutalis on Mar 4, 2021 16:43:00 GMT -5
This was 50/50 until near the end of the decade DC began to pull ahead for me.
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Post by badwolf on Mar 4, 2021 21:18:02 GMT -5
The only era in which it was even close but I still have to give it to Marvel.
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Post by codystarbuck on Mar 5, 2021 0:03:59 GMT -5
No contest: DC was reborn and started kicking posteriors and taking designations, while Marvel stagnated, apart from a coupe of creators who didn't jump ship (Simonson's Thor). The early-mid 80s is when I walked away from X-men and never looked back.
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Post by MDG on Mar 5, 2021 8:28:14 GMT -5
Definitely DC--this was the last time I was buying comics on any kind of regular basis and DC was really working to build something new.
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Post by Icctrombone on Mar 5, 2021 8:55:56 GMT -5
No contest: DC was reborn and started kicking posteriors and taking designations, while Marvel stagnated, apart from a coupe of creators who didn't jump ship (Simonson's Thor). The early-mid 80s is when I walked away from X-men and never looked back. I think there's plenty of contest. Dc didn't change things over to really good books until almost 6 years of the 80's were past. Marvel still had Simonson Thor, Miller Daredevil, Byrne Fantastic Four. There was also solid books like Spider-man with the intro of Hobgoblin and later in the decade Venom. Books like Moonknight , Kazar with the Brent Anderson artwork and Dreadstar. Before the Crisis for DC, you can argue the line was lackluster. They had All Star Squadron, Swamp Thing and Teen Titans and not much else. I can't give DC the entire decade for 3 years.
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Post by badwolf on Mar 5, 2021 11:09:37 GMT -5
No contest: DC was reborn and started kicking posteriors and taking designations, while Marvel stagnated, apart from a coupe of creators who didn't jump ship (Simonson's Thor). The early-mid 80s is when I walked away from X-men and never looked back. I think there's plenty of contest. Dc didn't change things over to really good books until almost 6 years of the 80's were past. Marvel still had Simonson Thor, Miller Daredevil, Byrne Fantastic Four. There was also solid books like Spider-man with the intro of Hobgoblin and later in the decade Venom. Books like Moonknight , Kazar with the Brent Anderson artwork and Dreadstar. Before the Crisis for DC, you can argue the line was lackluster. They had All Star Squadron, Swamp Thing and Teen Titans and not much else. I can't give DC the entire decade for 3 years. Yep. The early 80s were still the 80s.
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Post by dbutler69 on Mar 5, 2021 11:27:53 GMT -5
No contest: DC was reborn and started kicking posteriors and taking designations, while Marvel stagnated, apart from a coupe of creators who didn't jump ship (Simonson's Thor). The early-mid 80s is when I walked away from X-men and never looked back. I think there's plenty of contest. Dc didn't change things over to really good books until almost 6 years of the 80's were past. Marvel still had Simonson Thor, Miller Daredevil, Byrne Fantastic Four. There was also solid books like Spider-man with the intro of Hobgoblin and later in the decade Venom. Books like Moonknight , Kazar with the Brent Anderson artwork and Dreadstar. Before the Crisis for DC, you can argue the line was lackluster. They had All Star Squadron, Swamp Thing and Teen Titans and not much else. I can't give DC the entire decade for 3 years. Yeah, to me this is really, really close, not a landslide.
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Post by codystarbuck on Mar 5, 2021 12:30:41 GMT -5
I think there's plenty of contest. Dc didn't change things over to really good books until almost 6 years of the 80's were past. Marvel still had Simonson Thor, Miller Daredevil, Byrne Fantastic Four. There was also solid books like Spider-man with the intro of Hobgoblin and later in the decade Venom. Books like Moonknight , Kazar with the Brent Anderson artwork and Dreadstar. Before the Crisis for DC, you can argue the line was lackluster. They had All Star Squadron, Swamp Thing and Teen Titans and not much else. I can't give DC the entire decade for 3 years. Yeah, to me this is really, really close, not a landslide. It's a subjective thing. My interest in Marvel dropped off about 2 years or so into the decade and never came back. DC kept some of my interest at the start and built on it, with New Teen Titans, All-Star Squadron, and Legion, then exploded from 1985 on. I was buying big chunks of DC. Marvel went on a decline in quality and innovation, as creators jumped ship, while DC went on a rise as Jenette Kahn's incentives began paying off, attracting more talent, including the British crowd who joined them. DC was getting mainstream press constantly and had the movie and tv presence (not necessarily a quality presence) while Marvel was still struggling to get the X-Men into cartoons. For my money, Marvel, after about 1982-83 wasn't in the fight and was being outshone by First Comics and Eclipse, through much of the decade.
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Post by dbutler69 on Mar 5, 2021 13:29:02 GMT -5
Yeah, to me this is really, really close, not a landslide. It's a subjective thing. My interest in Marvel dropped off about 2 years or so into the decade and never came back. DC kept some of my interest at the start and built on it, with New Teen Titans, All-Star Squadron, and Legion, then exploded from 1985 on. I was buying big chunks of DC. Marvel went on a decline in quality and innovation, as creators jumped ship, while DC went on a rise as Jenette Kahn's incentives began paying off, attracting more talent, including the British crowd who joined them. DC was getting mainstream press constantly and had the movie and tv presence (not necessarily a quality presence) while Marvel was still struggling to get the X-Men into cartoons. For my money, Marvel, after about 1982-83 wasn't in the fight and was being outshone by First Comics and Eclipse, through much of the decade. For me, 1984 is when Marvel started going downhill.
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