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Post by shaxper on Nov 10, 2014 22:21:12 GMT -5
By the way, in all our talk of Neo-Noir, how has no one brought up Bladerunner yet?
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Post by thwhtguardian on Nov 10, 2014 22:25:15 GMT -5
That is a damn good list, so many there that I love. And I love the fact that they're all on Netflix! That certainly makes it accessible, and I think you're really going to enjoy the Maltese Falcon. |
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Post by thwhtguardian on Nov 10, 2014 22:28:01 GMT -5
By the way, in all our talk of Neo-Noir, how has no one brought up Bladerunner yet? That's one of my favorites and I totally intend to rewatch it this month. I know there are those people, including Ford himself, who prefer the director's cut which eliminates Harrison Ford's interior monologues but I for one love them. |
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Post by shaxper on Nov 10, 2014 22:43:32 GMT -5
By the way, in all our talk of Neo-Noir, how has no one brought up Bladerunner yet? That's one of my favorites and I totally intend to rewatch it this month. I know there are those people, including Ford himself, who prefer the director's cut which eliminates Harrison Ford's interior monologues but I for one love them. There are so many cuts! I've only seen the Final Cut, and I adore it. I can't imagine watching the film with a different ending. |
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Post by shaxper on Nov 10, 2014 22:49:10 GMT -5
Sorry. I meant that the Unicorn Dream being included earlier in the Final Cut version changed the meaning of the ending.
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Post by Hoosier X on Nov 10, 2014 22:50:26 GMT -5
Blade Runner is one of my favorite movies. I hate the original theatrical cut! I was in Movie Heaven when they started releasing the cuts that got rid of the monologue!
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Post by thwhtguardian on Nov 10, 2014 22:50:39 GMT -5
That's one of my favorites and I totally intend to rewatch it this month. I know there are those people, including Ford himself, who prefer the director's cut which eliminates Harrison Ford's interior monologues but I for one love them. There are so many cuts! I've only seen the Final Cut, and I adore it. I can't imagine watching the film with a different ending. I don't think I've seen that one, I've only seen the US theatrical, the Criterion and the Director's cut. Does it have the monologues? |
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Post by shaxper on Nov 10, 2014 22:51:39 GMT -5
No. It's pretty much the perfect version. I researched all the different versions before deciding which to watch, and, from what I've read, the Final Cut pretty much does everything right.
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Post by thwhtguardian on Nov 10, 2014 22:56:18 GMT -5
Blade Runner is one of my favorite movies. I hate the original theatrical cut! I was in Movie Heaven when they started releasing the cuts that got rid of the monologue! I like the more ambiguous ending of the Director's cut but I really miss the monologues. I just love the sound of Ford's voice and I think they give the film a very classic noir feel despite the sci-fi setting. |
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Post by coke & comics on Nov 11, 2014 2:29:40 GMT -5
I don't miss the monologues. I think talking over the death of Roy just ruins a perfect moment. In one of the extras another director (Guillermo del Toro?) described the scene with the monologue as having the best sex of your life then getting cold water poured on you just before climax.
The Final Cut is the only version you really need, except for comparative and academic purposes, in my mind.
The differences between the Final Cut and the Director's Cut are so subtle and so clearly positive in favor of the Final Cut, that there is no reason for the Director's cut.
And there's no reason for the film to have the stupid ending of the theatrical cut.
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Post by coke & comics on Nov 11, 2014 2:30:57 GMT -5
There are so many cuts! I've only seen the Final Cut, and I adore it. I can't imagine watching the film with a different ending. I don't think I've seen that one, I've only seen the US theatrical, the Criterion and the Director's cut. Does it have the monologues? The Final Cut really is very close to the Director's Cut. It's basically just the Director's Cut with cleaned up picture and audio. |
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Post by MDG on Nov 11, 2014 10:50:39 GMT -5
Just watched Kiss Me Deadly and couldn't feel more "meh" about it. I'm abandoning The Guardian's Top 10 Noir film list at this point, as there's no way this would be my #8, and they ranked The Third Man beneath Double Indemnity. I need to find a Noir list that better reflects my preferences. You could try Eddie Muller's list here : eddiemuller.com/top25noir.htmlYeah--I'd go with this list (though I haven't seen 3 or 4 of them). Steers away from a lot of the well-known ones and focuses on noir as a style and tone. |
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Post by Jesse on Nov 12, 2014 13:59:42 GMT -5
Just finished watching White Heat (1949) on TCM was blown away by how good it is. Easily one of the best crime films ever made. This movie has just about every thing you could possibly want in a crime drama: suspense, a train robbery, a prison brake, a double cross and an undercover cop. The pacing throughout is superb. James Cagney is one fierce gangster both menacing and charismatic. Virginia Mayo was great as Verna and she looked incredible. Fantastic stand off and chase at the end and the final scene is absolutely spectacular.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2014 14:11:29 GMT -5
Just finished watching White Heat (1949) on TCM was blown away by how good it is. Easily one of the best crime films ever made. This movie has just about every thing you could possibly want in a crime drama: suspense, a train robbery, a prison brake, a double cross and an undercover cop. The pacing throughout is superb. James Cagney is one fierce gangster both menacing and charismatic. Virginia Mayo was great as Verna and she looked incredible. Fantastic stand off and chase at the end and the final scene is absolutely spectacular. Ironically, I watched that same movie too ... and I've to say it is one of the best films that James Cagney did and I was lured by the fast paced action and Verna played by Virginia Mayo was perfect for this role. It has everything under the Sun! Perfection Indeed.  James Cagney and Virginia Mayo in White Heat! |
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Post by shaxper on Nov 12, 2014 15:01:23 GMT -5
Speaking of James Cagney, I'm currently halfway through Angels with Dirty Faces. I took a break from it to pop in here, but it's really great so far. Characterization (which always matters most to me) is positively popping.  And, no, it has no relation to this:   |
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