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Post by brutalis on Jan 3, 2021 2:58:56 GMT -5
King Kirby always embraced creating new worlds of adventure. Once he left Marvel for DC he was given full reign to explore his wildest imaginings. Outside of his work on already established serie which do you like best? Choose 1 that is your most favorite. You may of course list your other likes and discuss while sharing your Kirby Krackle's of love.
Eternals has my vote as most favorite with Demon following closely. Mister Miracle is in place at 3rd followed by Machine Man. In pure wild fun comes in Kamandi and Devil Dinosaur. With New Gods, Captain Victory, Omac, Silver Star and Forever People providing creatively distinct, unique worlds and characters. A special shout out for the Jimmy Olsen parts which were all part and parcel of the Fourth World.
What say the rest of you in the CCF?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2021 4:18:10 GMT -5
New Gods and Eternals run neck and neck for me. Demon and Forever People vie for a distant third. I am not sure how Kamandi would place, as I've only rea da handful of the original issues and the Challenge (it's one of the many things in my TBR pile), but I have a feeling it might place high based on what little I have sampled. I know it's not there because it's an already established series, but I absolutely love the early issues of Jack's Black Panther run, it's just so bonkers it's a sheer thrill-a-minute ride with so many big ideas woven through it. My enthusiasm for the run fades the later in his run it gets, but those early issues reamin a favorite. I feel the same way about the Jimmy Olsen stuff too, wild wacky ideas that are sheer fun early on, but my enthusiasm for it fades in the later part of the run.
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Post by Icctrombone on Jan 3, 2021 4:23:41 GMT -5
It was a close choice but I picked Kamandi over the fourth world books. I feel that Kamandi gave you a different fresh adventure in each issue while discovering a bombed out world.
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Post by Cei-U! on Jan 3, 2021 7:56:26 GMT -5
Eternals for me, followed by New Gods/Forever People, Machine Man, and The Demon. The second half of Mister Miracle (except the wedding issue) is a big bag of meh. I like the early issues of Kamandi, but it got old fairly fast. Devil Dinosaur is fun in short doses, but the appeal of OMAC is lost on me. I've never read Captain Victory or Silver Star so no opinion there.
Cei-U! Anyway, I like Golden Age Kirby best!
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Post by Icctrombone on Jan 3, 2021 8:04:21 GMT -5
Eternals for me, followed by New Gods/Forever People, Machine Man, and The Demon. The second half of Mister Miracle (except the wedding issue) is a big bag of meh. I like the early issues of Kamandi, but it got old fairly fast. Devil Dinosaur is fun in short doses, but the appeal of OMAC is lost on me. I've never read Captain Victory or Silver Star so no opinion there. Cei-U! Anyway, I like Golden Age Kirby best! If you want to remember Kirby in a good way, never read Silver Star. It was crap.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2021 8:11:20 GMT -5
OMAC is my favorite.
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Post by shaxper on Jan 3, 2021 10:08:07 GMT -5
If you want to remember Kirby in a good way, never read Silver Star. It was crap. I really liked the villain.
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Post by brutalis on Jan 3, 2021 10:10:57 GMT -5
Eternals for me, followed by New Gods/Forever People, Machine Man, and The Demon. The second half of Mister Miracle (except the wedding issue) is a big bag of meh. I like the early issues of Kamandi, but it got old fairly fast. Devil Dinosaur is fun in short doses, but the appeal of OMAC is lost on me. I've never read Captain Victory or Silver Star so no opinion there. Cei-U! Anyway, I like Golden Age Kirby best! If you want to remember Kirby in a good way, never read Silver Star. It was crap. Bit harsh but it wasn't very well thought out and a mess. But it still hff as certain qualities that could be explored.
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Post by kirby101 on Jan 3, 2021 10:42:10 GMT -5
Captain Victory was a fun book and showed Kirby was still capable of great concepts and dynamic art. It is an overlooked Kirby classic.
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Post by Batflunkie on Jan 3, 2021 10:45:04 GMT -5
OMAC and Demon for me, even if Kirby didn't feel particularly invested in the world of Jason Blood when compared to his other works
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Post by EdoBosnar on Jan 3, 2021 10:53:57 GMT -5
Captain Victory was a fun book and showed Kirby was still capable of great concepts and dynamic art. It is an overlooked Kirby classic. That's the one I picked, even though it may not have been the one I think is the absolutely best concept, just because there's some follow-through and a coherent story that goes on for the first 6 or so issues. That's generally better than his record in most of the series he started at both DC and Marvel in the 1970s. Basically, what @mrp said......pretty much sums up my view of damn near every Kirby project after 1970. Unfortunately, after that first arc in Capt. Victory, it kind of fizzled out as well, and the remainder of the series is pretty forgettable. Silver Star was kind of a forgettable mess right from the start.
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Post by kirby101 on Jan 3, 2021 11:47:07 GMT -5
I agree the war with the Hive was very good stuff. But the later story with the cosmic embryo and Victory's mysterious grandfather kept me going as well.
berkley's reply in another thread points to why the drop off in many of Kirby's books happened.
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Post by codystarbuck on Jan 3, 2021 13:29:54 GMT -5
For me, it is Mister Miracle, though mostly up to the point that he and Barda go to Apokalips. After that, you could tell he bowed to pressure to change it into standard fare.
Eternals is a close second.
With Miracle, it is a combination of things, from Kirby's views about war, to the battle against fascism and the concept of "liberation," as well as the more nuanced characters. New Gods kind of had fits and starts as he he hit you hard, at the start, then kind of treads water until "The Pact" and "The Glory Boat" blow you away.
The one series where I think he was totally left alone was the Losers. Reading that feels like you are reading Kirby's memoir, as a soldier. Not necessarily in the plots or even the characters; but in some of the dialogue and the desperation you see in some of the scenes.
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Post by starscape on Jan 3, 2021 14:10:59 GMT -5
New Gods is one of my all-time favourite runs. Mister Miracle and Demon were good but it's a little like comparing Captain America with prime Fantastic Four for me. Ones an interesting run. The other jaw-droppingly awesome.
OMAC was of interest. I thought some of you more into SHIELD might have gone there.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jan 3, 2021 15:34:34 GMT -5
I voted for Kamandi, even though it's genesis was as a Planet of the Apes clone. I honestly don't care that much for Kirby's later work. Kamandi was the best of the lot.
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