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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2020 15:04:00 GMT -5
articleSo Liefled has signed on to take a swing at revamping the Mighty Crusdaers for Archie. I've been getting into these characters a lot lately (due mostly to the Toth art and Steranko covers in the 80s reboot of the line), and have been picking up all of the 80s and earlier iterations of these that I ran into, but I've avoided the Impact revival and later except for the Dean Haspiel Fox minis with Mark Waid. I think I will keep on ignoring the new stuff with Liefeld on board, though I will admit the art samples form the article look a lot better than Liefeld's usual fare (there's even feet in the panels).    -M
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2020 20:24:36 GMT -5
Thanks for posting this @mrp. I have been reading anything I can get a hold of featuring the Archie Comics heroes including the recent efforts (in the last 10 years) by both DC and Archie. I also seek out any reprints of older material. So I will try out this series. And honestly Liefeld's art looks decent on these pages.
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Post by mikelmidnight on Dec 16, 2020 12:07:22 GMT -5
This to me is like … two mediocre tastes who taste mediocre together … but what the heck, you know?
I'm not real pleased that these costumes (except for the Shield) seem largely based in the Impact designs rather than the originals.
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Post by Duragizer on Dec 16, 2020 14:17:58 GMT -5
I will admit the art samples form the article look a lot better than Liefeld's usual fare (there's even feet in the panels). Hard as it is to believe, Liefeld has improved over the years. You can't work in the industry over three decades and not get better by accident. |
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Post by Crimebuster on Dec 16, 2020 15:57:33 GMT -5
They keep trying to do something with these characters and it never catches on. I can't see this being any different. I think their best bet would be something in TV or film.
I do think the most interesting iteration I've seen was the New Crusaders a few years ago but they abandoned it to do Dark Circle.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2020 22:58:58 GMT -5
They keep trying to do something with these characters and it never catches on. I can't see this being any different. I think their best bet would be something in TV or film. I do think the most interesting iteration I've seen was the New Crusaders a few years ago but they abandoned it to do Dark Circle. The two Dean Haspiel/Mark Waid The Fox mini-series a couple years back were fantastic. They came out the same time they were trying to revive the Mighty Crusaders via a digital first then print comic (circa 2012/2013 I think) that went nowhere, then came Dark Circle I believe, and nothing caught on sales wise. But I treasure those two Fox mini-series and it was those that led me to the Toth stuff on the Fox in the 80s iteration and led tome becoming a fan of the Red Circle hero stuff all around. I had pretty much ignored everything else with them up to that point. If the Liefeld mini is available via Hoopla, I might give it a look to see how it is, but I don't plan on buying it. -M |
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Post by mikelmidnight on Dec 18, 2020 12:33:54 GMT -5
They keep trying to do something with these characters and it never catches on. I can't see this being any different. I think their best bet would be something in TV or film. I do think the most interesting iteration I've seen was the New Crusaders a few years ago but they abandoned it to do Dark Circle.
Some of the characters have distinguished pedigrees. I have a feeling that the Spectrum Comics imprint may have taken off, but they weren't ready yet.
"Archie planned to begin publishing superheroes again in the late 1980s with an imprint called Spectrum Comics, featuring a number of high-profile talents, including Steve Englehart, Jim Valentino, Marv Wolfman, Michael Bair, Kelley Jones, and Rob Liefeld. Planned Spectrum titles included The Fly, The Fox, Hangman, Jaguar, Mister Justice, and The Shield. Ultimately, Archie cancelled Spectrum Comics before publishing a single issue. "
There have been some high points: Black Hood by Adams and Morrow, Fox by Toth, and a run on the Fly by Ditko which I at least enjoyed. But in general there's little about the characters to distinguish them from Marvel's or DC's and they've typically not wanted to shell out for A-list creators.
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Post by hondobrode on Dec 19, 2020 20:37:35 GMT -5
I highly enjoyed the last Archie run especially the Black Hood.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2020 21:24:43 GMT -5
whilst fully acknowledging that individual tastes may vary?
this looks horrendously terrible.
no interest, whatsoever, from me
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Post by Icctrombone on Dec 20, 2020 6:15:10 GMT -5
I think I want to see what the issues are like. I will admit I have never been the biggest Liefeld fan but I have been listening to his podcast and he has won me over. He's a big comic fan and geek like the members of this forum and he has worked hard for everything he has achieved in the comic industry. He has been doing a Snake eyes series for IDW, but I have never been a GI JOE fan. This I might try.
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Post by majestic on May 24, 2021 17:12:54 GMT -5
And Liefeld has dropped off the project after one issue....
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Post by Icctrombone on May 25, 2021 4:49:51 GMT -5
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Post by mikelmidnight on May 25, 2021 11:04:33 GMT -5
It looks like Liefeld offered to finish the series despite the reveal and " Creative Differences" but was rejected by Archie Comics.
… making it look obvious that Archie's interest is simply keeping the characters in print to avoid having them lapse into the public domain, rather than actually producing well-selling comics.
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Post by Icctrombone on May 25, 2021 11:10:42 GMT -5
It’s a shame because, despite the disdain that some feel for Liefeld, his name sells comics.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on May 25, 2021 11:25:52 GMT -5
It looks like Liefeld offered to finish the series despite the reveal and " Creative Differences" but was rejected by Archie Comics.
… making it look obvious that Archie's interest is simply keeping the characters in print to avoid having them lapse into the public domain, rather than actually producing well-selling comics.
That's not how the public domain works. Though it may well have something to do with trademark protection. |
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