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Post by berkley on Dec 11, 2020 19:05:10 GMT -5
I always wonder if Robbins, who knew how to draw perfectly well, was trying to emulate the exaggerated poses and perspectives of some superhero comics but just had no feel for that style of cartooning.
The Manara picture is in no way ineptly drawn, in my view. You may think it's over-sexualised or inappropriate or just plain silly, but it isn't ill-executed, no matter how ill-conceived you might happen to find it.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2020 19:57:41 GMT -5
The Manara picture is in no way ineptly drawn, in my view. You may think it's over-sexualised or inappropriate or just plain silly, but it isn't ill-executed, no matter how ill-conceived you might happen to find it. keep in mind, that was posted in jest response to the "Wolvie is waiting for a Proctologist" comment. . not for "bad art". . LOL
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Post by Crimebuster on Dec 11, 2020 20:43:21 GMT -5
I'll agree that the Manara image doesn't belong since this thread is about art so bad it's good, and I'm not seeing any way to call this good.
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Post by Hoosier X on Dec 11, 2020 21:01:56 GMT -5
I'll agree that the Manara image doesn't belong since this thread is about art so bad it's good, and I'm not seeing any way to call this good. LMAO!
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Post by codystarbuck on Dec 11, 2020 23:08:06 GMT -5
Is this it? Robbins...arrrgh!! Robbins...yay!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2020 1:21:43 GMT -5
I've long since lost it, but years ago someone posted a panel of a guy in a blue and yellow jumping between buildings with the most unnatural positioning/perspective I have ever seen. edit: I believe is was posted by Ish Kabibble, but it may have been Hoosier X. Is this it? Yes! woof
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2020 1:25:06 GMT -5
Is this it? Yes! woof I think I looked something like that the last time I slipped while walking on ice, so it is a humanly possible pose, just not a very comfortable one -M
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Post by MWGallaher on Dec 12, 2020 8:48:37 GMT -5
I always wonder if Robbins, who knew how to draw perfectly well, was trying to emulate the exaggerated poses and perspectives of some superhero comics but just had no feel for that style of cartooning. I think that's it, exactly. Robbins was being encouraged to be "dynamic" to look like a proper contemporary Marvel comic and it just didn't click with him. He must have looked at the exaggerated posturing of Kirby (and probably more influentially, the younger artists of the era who were themselves trying to emulate Kirby's Marvel-defining energetic and bombastic composition), shrugged, and thought "OK, if that's the kind of crazy stuff they want, I can do it"...only he couldn't quite do it. What he could do, he did quite well, as you note, but 70's-style in-your-face exaggeration was too far removed from his ingrained artistic sensibilities. Pretty much the same thing that Herb Trimpe went through in the 90's.
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Post by Hoosier X on Dec 12, 2020 8:52:29 GMT -5
Frank Robbins is awesome.
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Post by tarkintino on Dec 12, 2020 9:05:21 GMT -5
I think I looked something like that the last time I slipped while walking on ice, so it is a humanly possible pose, just not a very comfortable one -M ..and for a superhero, not a very heroic pose, either.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2020 9:07:38 GMT -5
My only issues with the panel are the weird angle (it looks like he's falling back rather than leaping/swinging forward, but the motion lines seems to indicate the opposite), the proportions look like failed forced perspective, and it appears they tried to fill all the space around him with thought clouds. Also, the costume stinks. Other than that, it's fine.
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Post by Hoosier X on Dec 12, 2020 11:13:29 GMT -5
My only issues with the panel are the weird angle (it looks like he's falling back rather than leaping/swinging forward, but the motion lines seems to indicate the opposite), the proportions look like failed forced perspective, and it appears they tried to fill all the space around him with thought clouds. Also, the costume stinks. Other than that, it's fine. Yeah! So what’s the problem?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2020 16:43:40 GMT -5
I've long since lost it, but years ago someone posted a panel of a guy in a blue and yellow jumping between buildings with the most unnatural positioning/perspective I have ever seen. edit: I believe is was posted by Ish Kabibble, but it may have been Hoosier X. Is this it?
I hope to gawd he wasn't an early Greg Land. can you imagine what porn mag he got THIS pose to trace from?
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Post by mikelmidnight on Dec 14, 2020 13:10:08 GMT -5
I always wonder if Robbins, who knew how to draw perfectly well, was trying to emulate the exaggerated poses and perspectives of some superhero comics but just had no feel for that style of cartooning. I think that's it, exactly. Robbins was being encouraged to be "dynamic" to look like a proper contemporary Marvel comic and it just didn't click with him. He must have looked at the exaggerated posturing of Kirby (and probably more influentially, the younger artists of the era who were themselves trying to emulate Kirby's Marvel-defining energetic and bombastic composition), shrugged, and thought "OK, if that's the kind of crazy stuff they want, I can do it"...only he couldn't quite do it. What he could do, he did quite well, as you note, but 70's-style in-your-face exaggeration was too far removed from his ingrained artistic sensibilities. Pretty much the same thing that Herb Trimpe went through in the 90's.
I detested a lot of Robbins' art in this era, and his coming in the middle of this excellent Captain America arc really ruined it for me. On the other hand, he was the perfect artist for The Invaders, giving the series a very period look, and the series went downhill in my mind when he departed.
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Post by badwolf on Dec 14, 2020 13:19:45 GMT -5
I love Manara's art but the nearly nonexistent noses often ruin it for me.
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