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Post by dbutler69 on May 14, 2020 10:52:18 GMT -5
Where to start............. Jim Shooter killed JLA/Avengers, after art was already drawn and approved and it took nearly 20 years to do a different version of the idea. Shooter also killed all the cooperative projects, so X-Men and Legion of Superheroes was axed. Not sure, but I thought they had announced a sequel to X-Men/Teen Titans. Shooter axed an X-Men/Legion of Super-Heroes project??!! Grrrr!  That would have been awesome, if done back then! Yeah, I'm pretty sure I remember reading Wolfman mentioning a sequel to X-Men/Teen Titans in the letters page. |
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Post by kirby101 on May 14, 2020 10:58:39 GMT -5
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Post by codystarbuck on May 14, 2020 19:35:37 GMT -5
Where to start............. Jim Shooter killed JLA/Avengers, after art was already drawn and approved and it took nearly 20 years to do a different version of the idea. Shooter also killed all the cooperative projects, so X-Men and Legion of Superheroes was axed. Not sure, but I thought they had announced a sequel to X-Men/Teen Titans. Shooter axed an X-Men/Legion of Super-Heroes project??!! Grrrr! That would have been awesome, if done back then! Yeah, I'm pretty sure I remember reading Wolfman mentioning a sequel to X-Men/Teen Titans in the letters page. Well, indirectly. When he refused to approve the script and art for JLA/Avengers, cooperation between the two companies broke down and all other projects were cancelled. X-Men/Legion (which was hugely popular under Levitz & Giffen) had been announced, but I don't know if much work had been done on it. |
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Post by codystarbuck on May 14, 2020 19:42:51 GMT -5
I thought this could've been cool...  Um...that one was done.     It was pretty damn disappointing, too, with one of the original Doc's assistants betraying him, a son who is useless, and just an overall attempt to gritty it up. Lester Dent was rolling in his grave. Now, if something else was intended that I haven't heard about, that's different. I saw the ads and bought this when it was released. I did not get the subsequent series, as I hated this so much (and the Shadow series that followed Chaykin's mini and I didn't think that much of it). Millennium did such a better job with Doc, |
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Post by codystarbuck on May 14, 2020 20:01:58 GMT -5
There was supposed to be a western series, called the Deserter, at DC, during the explosion; but, it never materialized, period. Odd Man, from Steve Ditko, was supposed to be a back-up feature and only got one or two stories printed. The Freedom Fighters had a cliffhanger left unresolved, thanks to the Implosion. Their book was cancelled after issue #15, which finished a two-parter with Batgirl and Batwoman. They were then supposed to face the Silver Ghost, to prove their innocence. When their series was cancelled, the story was set to transfer over to the Secret Society of Super-Villains; but, that book got the axe in the Implosion and was only printed as part of Cancelled Comic Cavalcade. The Charlton Action Heroes were scheduled to appear in a weekly anthology, but it was axed. Frank McLaughlin had produced artwork for a Judomaster strip within it.   Pete Morisi produced stories for Peter Cannon-Thunderbolt, which never saw the light of day. Kieth Giffen and Robert Loring Fleming were working on a serious F-ed up Peacemaker, Steve Englehart, Dave Ross and Alex Nino were to do Blue Beetle, Paul Kupperberg and Paul Chadwick were to do Captain Atom, Question was to be done by Mike Barr & Stan Woch & Rick Magyar, and Sarfe Steel from Andy Helfer, Trevor Von Eden and Dick Giordano. There is more info and some art, here.The book, at one stage, was also to be called Blockbuster Weekly. DC axed the weekly idea and decided to incorporate the Charlton characters in the regular DC Universe, with new creators involved. Pete Morisi owned Peter Cannon and had a pretty rocky relationship with DC, until their rights expired, after only producing the Mike Collins series. Morisi discussed it in the Charlton issue of the Comic Book Artist #9, from Twomorrows. The weekly comic idea was shifted to Action Comics; but, only for about a year. |
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Post by MDG on May 15, 2020 8:44:47 GMT -5
I thought this could've been cool... Um...that one was done. It was pretty damn disappointing, too, with one of the original Doc's assistants betraying him, a son who is useless, and just an overall attempt to gritty it up. Lester Dent was rolling in his grave. Now, if something else was intended that I haven't heard about, that's different. I saw the ads and bought this when it was released. I did not get the subsequent series, as I hated this so much (and the Shadow series that followed Chaykin's mini and I didn't think that much of it). Millennium did such a better job with Doc, A Doc Savage series was done, but it wasn't what they were selling in the original ad. |
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2020 17:55:00 GMT -5
Kevin Smith never seemed to deliver #2 of Daredevil/Bullseye: The Target. I'd post a pic here but the image transfer is farting around |
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Post by mikelmidnight on May 18, 2020 11:37:37 GMT -5
Pete Morisi produced stories for Peter Cannon-Thunderbolt, which never saw the light of day. Kieth Giffen and Robert Loring Fleming were working on a serious F-ed up Peacemaker, Steve Englehart, Dave Ross and Alex Nino were to do Blue Beetle, Paul Kupperberg and Paul Chadwick were to do Captain Atom, Question was to be done by Mike Barr & Stan Woch & Rick Magyar, and Sarfe Steel from Andy Helfer, Trevor Von Eden and Dick Giordano. There is more info and some art, here.
I think these were amazing lineups but ... frankly, I think the series would have tanked.
It was going to be a weekly, as I recall, with each character getting two pages per issue.
The problem is, I simply don't think that format would have made for effective storytelling. Readers would not have been able to get involved with the characters.
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Post by codystarbuck on May 18, 2020 12:52:41 GMT -5
Pete Morisi produced stories for Peter Cannon-Thunderbolt, which never saw the light of day. Kieth Giffen and Robert Loring Fleming were working on a serious F-ed up Peacemaker, Steve Englehart, Dave Ross and Alex Nino were to do Blue Beetle, Paul Kupperberg and Paul Chadwick were to do Captain Atom, Question was to be done by Mike Barr & Stan Woch & Rick Magyar, and Sarfe Steel from Andy Helfer, Trevor Von Eden and Dick Giordano. There is more info and some art, here.
I think these were amazing lineups but ... frankly, I think the series would have tanked.
It was going to be a weekly, as I recall, with each character getting two pages per issue.
The problem is, I simply don't think that format would have made for effective storytelling. Readers would not have been able to get involved with the characters.
Which was pretty much why DC got cold feet and pulled the plug. Action Comics Weekly devoted enough pages to the features for decent storytelling, with the 2 page Superman running like a Sunday comic strip. Audience still didn't care. To be fair, you were lucky if one feature was really good and the others were just "okay" enough to justify buying the issue. |
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Post by mikelmidnight on May 20, 2020 11:22:05 GMT -5
I remember Action Comics Weekly and remember it as being very bland, with no variety in the stories and B- and C-list creators doing the work. I think a good anthology might be successful but you actually have to invest in it.
On the other hand, other than Heavy Metal, I don't think there are other successful anthology series out now, so maybe the market isn't there anymore (which is a shame).
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Post by Slam_Bradley on May 20, 2020 11:43:34 GMT -5
I remember Action Comics Weekly and remember it as being very bland, with no variety in the stories and B- and C-list creators doing the work. I think a good anthology might be successful but you actually have to invest in it.On the other hand, other than Heavy Metal, I don't think there are other successful anthology series out now, so maybe the market isn't there anymore (which is a shame). I'm not trying to offend but this is magical thinking. Americans have shown they have zero interest in anthologies whether they be comics or prose. Bless publishers who keep trying, but anthology comics haven't sold for a very long time in the U.S. (leaving aside possible sales for manga titles because that's way beyond my knowledge). And honestly, Heavy Metal isn't really successful. From all the numbers I can find its circulation peaked in 1982 and has gone down steadily since. The most recent numbers I see have it selling around 20,000 copies per issue. This also applies to prose. Yeah, you can still find anthology books, but they pay the authors crap for the stories because the books don't sell well. This is one of the reasons that authors like Joe R. Lansdale sell limited print run hardcover novellas through small publishers like Subterranean Press. It's one of the few ways they can make enough money to make it worthwhile to write in short formats instead of concentrating completely on novel-length works. |
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Post by tonebone on Sept 14, 2020 9:40:03 GMT -5
I would've liked to see The Prisoner get an official Marvel adaptation of the series. 17 episodes, maybe 17 issues. Anyone know who pulled the plug on Jack Kirby?
What other projects failed to get the nod too?
Along with Kirby's The Prisoner, I would like to see a reprint of Kirby's The Black Hole adaptation. It was done for the overseas market, and in some regions, it was printed as a sunday color feature in the newspapers. Disney Adventures magazine published only a couple of episodes for some weird reason circa 2006. |
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Post by DubipR on Sept 14, 2020 21:08:21 GMT -5
Superman/Rocketeer: 1938
I don't know which parties dropped the ball on this crossover but I know Stevens had 2 scripts in the can with Kaluta doing breakdowns for Stevens to draw. This would've been amazing.
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Post by Duragizer on Sept 16, 2020 13:11:23 GMT -5
Superman/Rocketeer: 1938 I don't know which parties dropped the ball on this crossover but I know Stevens had 2 scripts in the can with Kaluta doing breakdowns for Stevens to draw. This would've been amazing. Now that's a comic I'd love to read. But nah, let's get another pretentious, navel-gazing event/reboot from the same clique of has-beens. |
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That would have been awesome, if done back then!
