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Post by badwolf on May 12, 2020 9:33:53 GMT -5
I like Skottie's style on the Oz books, but that FF is awful. I remember when I first saw the Human Torch miniseries he did, I thought it was the worst thing I'd ever seen.
Don't like Ramos on Marvel Universe stuff either. I did read a graphic novel from the Soleil imprint that he drew and I was able to tolerate his art there.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2020 11:14:49 GMT -5
Scottie Young was super nice to my daughter at a comic con. He did a sketch of Torch and the Thing and talked to her the whole time. She was so impressed at how he interacted with fans that she went looking for more of his work.
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Post by The Cheat on May 12, 2020 13:32:59 GMT -5
^^ A George Tuska trait, too. Wild Black Because a vacuum is sooooo volatile.
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Post by electricmastro on May 12, 2020 14:50:29 GMT -5
Warlock is probably one of the hardest characters to draw consistently, not helped by how he has the ability to shapeshift his form: Bill Sienkiewicz (New Mutants #23, January 1985): Steve Purcell (New Mutants #43, September 1986): Jackson Guice (New Mutants #50, April 1987): Rich Buckler (New Mutants #76, June 1989):
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Post by rberman on May 12, 2020 14:58:42 GMT -5
Yep, Warlock was created for Sienkiewicz and rarely drawn well by anybody else. Art Adams gave it a try too but came across more cartoony than spooky. Likewise Alan Davis. On the other hand, Daniel Cvammen turned in a nice Warlock pinup commission for me recently.
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Post by electricmastro on May 12, 2020 15:17:45 GMT -5
Yep, Warlock was created for Sienkiewicz and rarely drawn well by anybody else. Art Adams gave it a try too but came across more cartoony than spooky. Likewise Alan Davis. On the other hand, Daniel Cvammen turned in a nice Warlock pinup commission for me recently. Yeah, Warlock is pretty much the embodiment of how the artist expresses their style. While others seemed to try drawing a set pattern for him, even co-creator Sienkiewicz himself never seemed to try drawing a set pattern for him, and approached drawing him more as just drawing whatever pattern came to mind for the technological alien mutant that he is. Definitely a double edged sword in that while he can be hard for artists to draw well and do justice, he can also serve as a “canvas” for any artist to go crazy on and express themselves to the fullest.
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Post by rberman on May 12, 2020 15:27:27 GMT -5
Oh yeah, here's a Leialoha attempt. He was close to Sienkiewicz's style overall at least. Bob McLeod got the face closer than most, though the body is too neat and streamlined. McLeod also had Warlock disguise himself as a human for most of New Mutants Annual #1 to avoid the problem of drawing him properly. I bet this contributed to him getting written out. One key element of his original Sienkiewicz appearances was eye circles which shared a point on the perimeter rather than a common center.
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Post by berkley on May 12, 2020 16:40:40 GMT -5
They couldn't think of a different name for the character, or were the various X-Men comics so separate from the rest of Marvel's superhero books that they were operating more or less in their own fictional universe?
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Post by rberman on May 12, 2020 17:02:49 GMT -5
They couldn't think of a different name for the character, or were the various X-Men comics so separate from the rest of Marvel's superhero books that they were operating more or less in their own fictional universe? I figured maybe it was to keep the names "Warlock" and "Magus" in play for trademark purposes, but I've never heard Claremont explain it.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2020 17:16:26 GMT -5
They couldn't think of a different name for the character, or were the various X-Men comics so separate from the rest of Marvel's superhero books that they were operating more or less in their own fictional universe? Adam Warlock had been "dead" and gone for 6 years (since Avengers Annual #7/MTIO Annual #2 in 1977 (and didn't reappear of figure in the Marvel U aside from reprints until the Infinity Gauntlet stuff in 1991. So in that 14 year period the name was fallow for the first 6, then reappeared in New Mutants in '83 and was the only Warlock active for the next 8. 14 years is a long time in comic book years, so it is not unreasonable that Marvel recycled the name to keep it active. -M
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Post by electricmastro on May 12, 2020 17:34:11 GMT -5
For the longest time, I didn’t know that Dan DeCarlo was the one, or at least one among the earliest artists, who helped give Archie Andrews the house style that became widely associated with him for decades, because he looked quite different in the beginning. Bob Montana (Pep Comics #22, December 1941): Dan DeCarlo (Archie's Girls Betty and Veronica #6, September 1952):
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Post by tarkintino on May 12, 2020 19:23:03 GMT -5
For the longest time, I didn’t know that Dan DeCarlo was the one, or at least one among the earliest artists, who helped give Archie Andrews the house style that became widely associated with him for decades, because he looked quite different in the beginning. Bob Montana (Pep Comics #22, December 1941): Dan DeCarlo (Archie's Girls Betty and Veronica #6, September 1952): Some Archie artists had a style so distinctive, that they were not really following a particular house (or DeCarlo) style, such as the work of Samm Schwartz (Left) and Harry Lucey (Right) seen below:
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Post by EdoBosnar on May 13, 2020 4:48:18 GMT -5
Schwartz and Lucey are probably my two favorite Archie artists, so personally I think of their style as 'house.'
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Post by berkley on May 13, 2020 6:18:04 GMT -5
They couldn't think of a different name for the character, or were the various X-Men comics so separate from the rest of Marvel's superhero books that they were operating more or less in their own fictional universe? Adam Warlock had been "dead" and gone for 6 years (since Avengers Annual #7/MTIO Annual #2 in 1977 (and didn't reappear of figure in the Marvel U aside from reprints until the Infinity Gauntlet stuff in 1991. So in that 14 year period the name was fallow for the first 6, then reappeared in New Mutants in '83 and was the only Warlock active for the next 8. 14 years is a long time in comic book years, so it is not unreasonable that Marvel recycled the name to keep it active. -M For trademark purposes. Like "She-Hulk".
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on May 13, 2020 11:09:33 GMT -5
I liked Tom Raney's Warlock in Annihilation Conquest Edit: And his Adam Warlock too for that matter.
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