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Post by hondobrode on Feb 12, 2020 13:19:34 GMT -5
tie between two characters I hate
Deadpool
closely followed by
Harley Quinn
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Post by tarkintino on Feb 12, 2020 13:26:23 GMT -5
tie between two characters I hate Deadpool closely followed by Harley Quinn Yeah, Deadpool has been a "NO" for me since his introduction. |
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Post by pinkfloydsound17 on Feb 12, 2020 13:30:23 GMT -5
Nothing says serious like guys in long underwear defying physics and norms of rational behavior. You got that right  That is the extent of my camp. Does that make sense? I can enjoy a man dressed in a costume fighting another man dressed in another costume. Throw in an imp or a talking dog? Too much. |
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Post by beccabear67 on Feb 12, 2020 13:44:33 GMT -5
I guess the '60s DC gorilla covers have a sort of camp appeal for me. I might be just generally allergic to magic in super-powers comics period. It feels like it should be it's own world separate mostly, same for horror icons like Dracula, Frankenstein's monster, the Werewolf... you can rhyme though, have space vampires, a lab created monster or Man-Wolf... but magic needs some 'splaining and rules for me, like they did with The Scarlet Witch's mutant hex ability, that worked out. Those magical imp types are just too reality-less and rules-less (okay, saying mxyzptlk backwards is a rule, but it's a made-up magical rule, not a real reality is going to hit rule somehow). Wait... major revelation time... defying reality, no rules... orange skin, yellow hair... er, d'ya think maybe...?  |
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Post by brutalis on Feb 12, 2020 13:48:36 GMT -5
If only it was that easy to have him to say Pmurt and disappear  |
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Post by Icctrombone on Feb 12, 2020 15:13:14 GMT -5
Deadpool was another person I only ever liked in the movies. Wolverine was the other.
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Post by The Captain on Feb 12, 2020 15:37:38 GMT -5
Waht's the story on the Rick Jones hate? Not that I like the character particularly - I don't really have a strong feeling about him either way, so I'm surprised to find he's considered annoying by a lot of people. Maybe it's something I didn't read? I know him mostly from the early-70s Captain Marvel reboot with the new costume and a bit from the early Hulk. Mind you, I can see finding any and all juvenile sidekicks annoying. If that's it I'm totally on board, just on general principle. My biggest problem with Rick Jones is that he is the quintessential "lucksack". Always in the right place at the right time, always succeeds in spite of himself; he's the guy that gets into a fight with a motorcycle gang, gets thrown into a septic tank, and winds up finding the Hope Diamond at the bottom of it. He wins the Skrull-Kree War because he had previously-unknown mental powers (later revealed as "The Destiny Force", "the ultimate manifestation of human potential", in Avengers Forever) inside him all along that allowed him to single-handedly turn the tide of the fight in the heroes' direction. More than that, he's a disrespectful punk. He's written in at least Captain Marvel and Captain America as that late-60s/early-70s teenager who is angry at the world and always "fighting the man". When Captain America rescues him from getting pulped by the Hulk in CA #110, he takes Jones back to his apartment to recuperate, and while there, Jones wakes up and puts on Bucky's costume. Cap tells him to take it off, and Rick responds by telling him that everyone loses someone and Cap should just get over it, instead of accepting he was at fault and doing as he was told. Plus, teen sidekicks (other than Robin) suck. |
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Post by String on Feb 12, 2020 19:16:47 GMT -5
I've only read of Impossible Man in the Spider-Man/FF team-up Silver Rage by Parker and Wieringo. I had no problems with him there.
I've never read anything with Bat-Mite.
How about voting for voice actors instead? Gilbert Gottfried as Mxy in the DCAU is inspired casting, so perfect that it makes Mxy annoying to me if I watch too many of his episodes at once. (Moderation is key as in all things).
Ryan Reynolds as Deadpool. I can ignore the endless rubbish that Marvel publishes with him but Reynolds is so perfectly cast as Wade that I can no longer watch anything starring Reynolds without 'hearing' him as Deadpool.
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Post by Confessor on Feb 12, 2020 20:01:39 GMT -5
You want to impress me though as a writer? You take these joke character and somehow make them serious. Or at least tolerable. Has that ever been done with Mxy or Bat-Mite? Alan Moore revealed Mxy to be a much more dangerous and malevolent inter-dimensional demon thingy in the "imaginary story" (aren't they all?) "Whatever Happened To The Man Of Tomorrow?" |
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Post by Icctrombone on Feb 12, 2020 22:22:15 GMT -5
You want to impress me though as a writer? You take these joke character and somehow make them serious. Or at least tolerable. Has that ever been done with Mxy or Bat-Mite? Alan Moore revealed Mxy to be a much more dangerous and malevolent inter-dimensional demon thingy in the "imaginary story" (aren't they all?) "Whatever Happened To The Man Of Tomorrow?" That two parter was excellent. |
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Post by Duragizer on Feb 12, 2020 22:32:23 GMT -5
Plus, teen sidekicks (other than Robin) suck. Even Robin sucked prior to the Bronze Age. |
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Post by Cei-U! on Feb 13, 2020 10:01:14 GMT -5
You want to impress me though as a writer? You take these joke character and somehow make them serious. Or at least tolerable. Has that ever been done with Mxy or Bat-Mite? Alan Moore revealed Mxy to be a much more dangerous and malevolent inter-dimensional demon thingy in the "imaginary story" (aren't they all?) "Whatever Happened To The Man Of Tomorrow?" ...and then Grant Morrison, in a spectacular burst of unoriginality, did the exact same thing with Qwisp, the water sprite from early Silver Age issues of Aquaman, ruining one of my favorite characters in the process. One of the few times I was tempted to rip a comic to shreds.
Cei-U! Knows how to hold a grudge!
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Post by tarkintino on Feb 13, 2020 11:58:33 GMT -5
Plus, teen sidekicks (other than Robin) suck. Even Robin sucked prior to the Bronze Age. I would disagree with that; in the 60s (just to focus on one period), despite the conflicting messages coming from one Bat-related title to another, the original Teen Titans comic went from a cutesy adventure book about DC's most famous sidekicks, to becoming more topical to a degree, and with that, Dick Grayson/Robin was starting to become the more serious minded, mature leader he would be in the decades to come. With his departure from Wayne Manor for college life ( Batman #217 / Detective Comics #394 - both from December of 1969), his transformation into a maturing leader was pushed forward (though some writers had an issue with characterization), never to look back to the "holy this / holy that" period (though brief), or any of the nonsense of the 50s. |
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Post by mikelmidnight on Feb 13, 2020 12:02:43 GMT -5
Alan Moore revealed Mxy to be a much more dangerous and malevolent inter-dimensional demon thingy in the "imaginary story" (aren't they all?) "Whatever Happened To The Man Of Tomorrow?" Yeah, and thus pointed up why I always disliked him: he was too powerful, and it was only sort of at his whim that he never did anything to actually hurt anyone, because he obviously could. Bat-Mite was never presented with that level of omnipotence, probably because he was an ostensible hero. My favorite ever Mxy story was the opening of the Bizarro Comics anthology. The actual full framing story was annoying and sort of offensive (basically degrading the comics they were selling, and not in a cute Plop! kind of way), but the two-page opener shows how the classic Supes/Mxy battles went from Mxy's point of view, and completely nailed it. |
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Post by Icctrombone on Feb 13, 2020 14:30:05 GMT -5
I was slightly shocked when you wrote this as The Impossible Man Character has appeared quite a bit since the mid 70's. But you and Kurt were right as usual that Lee/Kirby never used him again and he appeared next in FF # 175 all the way from FF # 11. |
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That is the extent of my camp. Does that make sense? I can enjoy a man dressed in a costume fighting another man dressed in another costume. Throw in an imp or a talking dog? Too much.
