shaxper
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Post by shaxper on Nov 30, 2019 15:12:19 GMT -5
I'm curious to see which superhero or team shows up the most on everyone's list.... I thought Kurt said no superteams?
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Post by Prince Hal on Nov 30, 2019 15:30:11 GMT -5
I'm curious to see which superhero or team shows up the most on everyone's list.... I thought Kurt said no superteams? I think that's the case: "Team titles like The Avengers or the Justice League are ineligible (and, just to make this extra hard on myself, this includes team-ups of teams a la the old JLA/JSA stories)."
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Nov 30, 2019 16:20:01 GMT -5
So, Cei-U! , a team-up among three or more characters, like the original Kid Flash, Robin, and Aqualad team-up or the Batman, Robin, GL, GA, Black Canary team-up in B and B 100 would not qualify? Hate to be a pain, but just want to make sure. And, oh, what a great idea this one is, Kurt! Thanks! Under the modified rules, I would allow both entries. I wouldn't have originally, but I was persuaded to rethink it. There are a handful of exceptions (like the Batman/Superman team in #150), but otherwise all the B&B team-ups are eligible. Cei-U! Looking like everything but the Joker/Riddler/Man-Bat/R'as Ah Ghul team-ups would be eligible, then.
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Post by MWGallaher on Nov 30, 2019 17:11:37 GMT -5
Under the modified rules, I would allow both entries. I wouldn't have originally, but I was persuaded to rethink it. There are a handful of exceptions (like the Batman/Superman team in #150), but otherwise all the B&B team-ups are eligible. Cei-U! Looking like everything but the Joker/Riddler/Man-Bat/R'as Ah Ghul team-ups would be eligible, then. Yet another thorny B&B issue arises! At first I didn't get your reasoning here, but I assume you mean that since all four of those villains are normally associated with Batman, they wouldn't be eligible (Catwoman would fall in the same category, right? She was the co-star in one issue of B&B). I'd bet that Kurt would allow those, though, under the reasoning that, while associated with Batman, they are not associated in the context of being a partner.
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Post by DubipR on Nov 30, 2019 19:04:30 GMT -5
I'm curious to see which superhero or team shows up the most on everyone's list.... I thought Kurt said no superteams? I'm sure stuff like JLA/Avengers is alright.. there's a few of those on my preliminary list.
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Post by DubipR on Nov 30, 2019 19:05:46 GMT -5
Currently I have 40 crossover contenders.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2019 19:58:20 GMT -5
Whittling it down to 12 is real hard but fun!
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Post by Cei-U! on Nov 30, 2019 20:33:49 GMT -5
I thought Kurt said no superteams? I'm sure stuff like JLA/Avengers is alright.. there's a few of those on my preliminary list. Nope, JLA/Avengers is ineligible. No team-team team-ups, even if involving different publishers.
Cei-U! I summon the line in the sand!
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Post by DubipR on Nov 30, 2019 21:01:20 GMT -5
I'm sure stuff like JLA/Avengers is alright.. there's a few of those on my preliminary list. Nope, JLA/Avengers is ineligible. No team-team team-ups, even if involving different publishers.
Cei-U! I summon the line in the sand!
Message received. I still have 40 to choose from...
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Post by Cei-U! on Dec 1, 2019 12:20:45 GMT -5
Looking like everything but the Joker/Riddler/Man-Bat/R'as Ah Ghul team-ups would be eligible, then. Yet another thorny B&B issue arises! At first I didn't get your reasoning here, but I assume you mean that since all four of those villains are normally associated with Batman, they wouldn't be eligible (Catwoman would fall in the same category, right? She was the co-star in one issue of B&B). I'd bet that Kurt would allow those, though, under the reasoning that, while associated with Batman, they are not associated in the context of being a partner. Hero-villain team-ups are eligible IF the villain has ever starred in their own feature.
Cei-U! I summon the fine print!
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Post by DubipR on Dec 1, 2019 12:49:49 GMT -5
Yet another thorny B&B issue arises! At first I didn't get your reasoning here, but I assume you mean that since all four of those villains are normally associated with Batman, they wouldn't be eligible (Catwoman would fall in the same category, right? She was the co-star in one issue of B&B). I'd bet that Kurt would allow those, though, under the reasoning that, while associated with Batman, they are not associated in the context of being a partner. Hero-villain team-ups are eligible IF the villain has ever starred in their own feature.
Cei-U! I summon the fine print!
That's two more I can add to the list!
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Dec 1, 2019 13:11:37 GMT -5
Yet another thorny B&B issue arises! At first I didn't get your reasoning here, but I assume you mean that since all four of those villains are normally associated with Batman, they wouldn't be eligible (Catwoman would fall in the same category, right? She was the co-star in one issue of B&B). I'd bet that Kurt would allow those, though, under the reasoning that, while associated with Batman, they are not associated in the context of being a partner. Hero-villain team-ups are eligible IF the villain has ever starred in their own feature.
Cei-U! I summon the fine print!
So the first Joker team-up in B&B 118 is out but the last Joker team-up in 191 is ok, because it came after the Joker's solo series?
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Post by Cei-U! on Dec 1, 2019 14:25:15 GMT -5
Hero-villain team-ups are eligible IF the villain has ever starred in their own feature.
Cei-U! I summon the fine print!
So the first Joker team-up in B&B 118 is out but the last Joker team-up in 191 is ok, because it came after the Joker's solo series? Naw, that's too complicated. I really did mean "ever." Both stories are eligible.
Cei-U! I summon the broad interpretation!
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Post by EdoBosnar on Dec 1, 2019 16:33:01 GMT -5
Hm, looking over these comments concerning whether a character had his/her own feature, I have to ask: that excludes Dum Dum Dugan, doesn't it?
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Post by Cei-U! on Dec 1, 2019 16:36:57 GMT -5
Hm, looking over these comments concerning whether a character had his/her own feature, I have to ask: that excludes Dum Dum Dugan, doesn't it? Not necessarily. Teams may be ineligible but their individual members are allowed, even if they've never had their own solo series. In such cases, the team title *is* the feature, So Dum Dum, as a member of the Howling Commandos, would qualify.
Cei-U! I summon the leeway!
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