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Post by Nowhere Man on Oct 19, 2014 21:39:39 GMT -5
I'm surprised this hasn't happened. I'd love to see a limited series by Paul Dini, Darwin Cooke and or Bruce Timm.
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Post by truertothecore on Oct 20, 2014 8:41:13 GMT -5
And I really, REALLY don't like Tim Drake at this point. Never liked him... starting with his costume. I think the best concept behind Robin was post-crisis Jason Todd, although the execution was lacking. But I could see that working in a movie. I've recently re-read the Grant/Breyfogle run, well, the early issues, and I must say that I concur with your ratings. The run starts promising but then takes a dive... that much that I stopped. It is a shame because in my memory it was an absolute classic, at least until the team switched from 'Tec to Batman. I have also re-read the Starlin run and it was quite good. Ironically however, the story for which Starlin will be remembered, "Death In The Family" was almost ridiculously bad with all those coincidences, diplomat Joker, useless Superman cameo... And BTW, I think I owe this forum my own review thread... |
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Oct 20, 2014 9:46:48 GMT -5
And I really, REALLY don't like Tim Drake at this point. Never liked him... starting with his costume. I think the best concept behind Robin was post-crisis Jason Todd, although the execution was lacking. But I could see that working in a movie. I've recently re-read the Grant/Breyfogle run, well, the early issues, and I must say that I concur with your ratings. The run starts promising but then takes a dive... that much that I stopped. It is a shame because in my memory it was an absolute classic, at least until the team switched from 'Tec to Batman. I have also re-read the Starlin run and it was quite good. Ironically however, the story for which Starlin will be remembered, "Death In The Family" was almost ridiculously bad with all those coincidences, diplomat Joker, useless Superman cameo... And BTW, I think I owe this forum my own review thread... It's been years since I've read those books, but I considered Starlin the worst Batman writer I had read after Max Allan Collins. And I voted twice to kill Jason Todd. |
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Post by Pharozonk on Oct 20, 2014 10:04:44 GMT -5
And I really, REALLY don't like Tim Drake at this point. Wait till Chuck Dixon gets a hold of him in his solo series. There's some great stuff in there!  |
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Post by truertothecore on Oct 20, 2014 10:37:12 GMT -5
It's been years since I've read those books, but I considered Starlin the worst Batman writer I had read after Max Allan Collins. And I voted twice to kill Jason Todd. So ironically you validated Starlin's take on Jason Todd  |
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Post by MDG on Oct 20, 2014 12:17:11 GMT -5
Not to derail the thread, but the Batman/Sherlock Holmes issue during the Barr/Davis run got me wondering if there has ever been a team-up between Batman and Dick Tracy? Of all the team-up's Batman has had with his various influences, that one makes the most sense to me. Oddly enough, there hasn't been, even though it seems so obvious. I actually have some random plot notes from years ago kicking around here somewhere for such a project, although all I recall is I set it in the 1940s and featured villain team-ups of Joker/Flattop and Two-Face/Pruneface. I always thought Peter Poplaski would be a great choice for the art, as he has previously shown an aptitude for mimicking the styles of both Chester Gould and Dick Sprang. Cei-U! I summon the might-have-been masterpiece! I don't think I've seen comics from Poplaski in 30 years (and i couldn't tell you what it was) since he's been working as AD or whatever for Kitchen Sink. Joe Staton would be another obvious choice for a Batman/Tracy team-up. Actually, I'd be shocked if he hasn't drawn them together, for a con sketch at least. |
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Post by JKCarrier on Oct 21, 2014 11:38:07 GMT -5
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Post by shaxper on Oct 23, 2014 9:19:42 GMT -5
It's been years since I've read those books, but I considered Starlin the worst Batman writer I had read after Max Allan Collins. And I voted twice to kill Jason Todd. I kind of enjoyed Starlin's writing, but he kept trying to force certain concepts into the stories that just didn't naturally jibe with what he was doing. Trying to push Batman over the edge into cold blooded vigilantism up through the Dumpster Killer storyline, and then constantly flip-flopping on Jason's characterization and motives after that. But the stand alone stories were really good. I particularly loved "Elmore's Lady" in Batman #421. |
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Post by foxley on Oct 26, 2014 15:49:07 GMT -5
Starlin was handicapped writing Batman because he couldn't introduce an all-powerful unstoppable cosmic omnicidal maniac or a corrupt intergalactic church, which seem to be the only things he wants to write about.  I don't particularly like Starlin as a writer, and I felt he was very poor fit for Batman. |
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Post by shaxper on Oct 26, 2014 19:05:10 GMT -5
I don't particularly like Starlin as a writer, and I felt he was very poor fit for Batman. I think he would have agreed with you. Honestly, considering what put him on the map at Marvel, it's kind of surprising DC put him on Batman. Maybe they just wanted a hot writer who would attract fans and sales on their flagship franchise. |
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Post by truertothecore on Oct 30, 2014 9:56:34 GMT -5
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Post by shaxper on Oct 30, 2014 11:55:07 GMT -5
Sparknotes features original content and interviews?? Thanks for sharing this. |
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Post by truertothecore on Oct 30, 2014 12:24:32 GMT -5
Benny O'Neil.  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2014 14:05:21 GMT -5
Benny O'Neil. Denny's evil twin. |
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Post by thwhtguardian on Oct 30, 2014 21:28:55 GMT -5
Sparknotes features original content and interviews?? Thanks for sharing this. That's new to me too, and it's an interesting interview as well. |
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