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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2019 0:18:51 GMT -5
Ultimate Warrior from 23 to 54
Kind of startling to see the progression of him throughout his career and by time he made it in WCW; he really aged in a big way and sad to see him go at the age of 54.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2019 1:51:23 GMT -5
Hulk Hogan ... From 1 to 64
For you ... @taxidriver1980 ... Enjoy this cool video clip of Hogan's life.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2019 9:26:57 GMT -5
Scott Hall Promo in 1987Man, this is a rare video clip ... here 
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2019 9:44:14 GMT -5
Ric Flair From 18 to 68
This guy is a workhorse in the world of professional wrestling. Rare photos in here.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2019 13:42:10 GMT -5
Hmm, those videos got me thinking about a dream match: Hulk Hogan & Ultimate Warrior vs. Ric Flair & Scott Hall...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2019 14:53:08 GMT -5
Hmm, those videos got me thinking about a dream match: Hulk Hogan & Ultimate Warrior vs. Ric Flair & Scott Hall... This is close you can get ... I think Hogan would be better than Savage! |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2019 15:05:42 GMT -5
True!
I didn't really enjoy that match. And Perfect's face turn seemed so contrived. He was the "emergency babyface", eh? He executed it pretty well, but it felt like the most contrived face turn in WWF history at that point.
The match was meaningless to me (and Survivor Series 1992 is one of the worst PPVs ever, if you ask me).
At the time, I only found out Warrior had left the WWF a few days before this event. The match was sold on the premise of the *Ultimate Maniacs* taking on Flair and Ramon. It'd be like previews soliciting a Superman & Batman vs. Luthor and Joker fight, but when we pick up the comic, we get Red Tornado replacing Superman or something. No disrespect to the substitute, but it felt anti-climatic.
That's wrestling at times. Another example I remember is Survivor Series 1991. They hyped Sid Justice, Big Boss Man and the Legion of Doom vs. Jake Roberts, IRS and the Natural Disasters. What a foursome on either side. I was excited about the thought of Sid going against Earthquake or seeing the LOD mix it up with Jake. Instead, we got a six-man tag (Boss Man & LOD vs. IRS & Natural Disasters). A pretty solid bout, but the original idea would have been great.
I know Sid Justice had been injured. Personally, I'd have had Hogan replace him leading to Hogan, Big Boss Man & LOD vs. Jake Roberts, IRS & Natural Disasters. The Hogan/Undertaker world title bout could have been saved for another PPV.
At the time, I remember some promos where Jake and IRS mentioned how they'd consulted a lawyer - and would be allowed to team even though Sid had been injured, making it 4-on-3. I don't know why the WWF didn't find a substitute because the six-man bout wasn't as good as a 4-on-4 bout would be.
Survivor Series could be odd like that. Happened in 1993, too. We'd seen a great feud between Bret Hart and Jerry Lawler, lots of heat. And Bret and his brothers were set to face Jerry Lawler and the Knights. Instead, Lawler was replaced by Shawn Michaels. I'm a huge Shawn Michaels fan, but there was no valid reason for him to be there, the build-up had been about the heat between Bret and Lawler.
Perhaps Survivor Series was cursed.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2019 15:32:49 GMT -5
Personally most Survivor Series PPVs were marginally good/bad at the same time and I just have a hard time enjoying them. I agreed that this PPV was cursed.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2019 18:48:03 GMT -5
I like the elimination encounters as it gave every wrestler something to do, told good stories, ended feuds, started feuds, etc. And it "protected" certain wrestlers by not having them be pinned.
But as time went on, I think it deteriorated. The 1995 and 1996 events are pretty unmemorable. I like the elimination matches at the 1997 event, but they have been eclipsed by the Montreal Screwjob. I have little good to say about the 1998 event. And without checking, I couldn't tell you what the main events were in 1999, 2000 or 2001.
I did like the 2005 event as it did Raw vs. SmackDown.
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Post by Calidore on Dec 17, 2019 19:43:51 GMT -5
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Post by codystarbuck on Dec 18, 2019 2:00:50 GMT -5
Colley was also the original Smash, of Demolition; but, everyone recognized him, which is why he was replaced with Barry Darsow, aka Krusher Kruschev. However, it didn't take long for NWA fans to recognize him, though it seemed to take WWF fans longer. I noticed he used to wear an elbow pad over his bicep, hiding the tattoo he had of a chained eagle.
Colley actually started in the WWF, with Moondog King, as WWF tag champion (under Lou Albano), before Larry Latham came on as Spot (Latham had been wrestling in a tem with Wayne Ferris, as the Blond Bombers, in Memphis). From there he went to Mid-South, as The Nightmare and The Champion, then Memphis, with Latham, then back to the WWF for the Moondogs and Demolition. He turned up in the Continental Wrestling Federation (booked by Eddie Gilbert) as Detroit Demolition, before moving on to WCW, where he was part of the Desperadoes, with Stan Hansen, Dutch Mantell, and Black Bart (as Deadeye Dick).
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Post by codystarbuck on Dec 18, 2019 2:09:16 GMT -5
ps As the Blond Bombers (managed by Danny Davis, former Nightmare Danny Davis and owner/trainer of OVW), Latham and Ferris engaged in the legendary Tupelo, Mississippi Concession Stand Brawl, with Jerry Lawler and Bill Dundee, which ould launch "hardcore wrestling." Working in memphis, at the time, was young Japanese wrestler Atsushi Onita, who would return to All Japan with ideas, which Giant Baba would not allow. Onita, after his body gave out, found backers to launch a new promotion, Frontier Martial Arts Wrestling, where he and others engaged in wild stipulation matches, referred to as "garbage wrestling" by Baba and other purists. They were briefly hot, before they numbed their crowds with endless matches of blood and little else, creating no stars to follow, beyond Hayabusa, whose career ended with a botched quebrada, landing on his neck. Like most garbage promotions, the bulk of their "talent" were either past it or were never going to have a prime (Mike Kirchner, Horace Boulder, Mr Pogo, Onita, etc). Mike Awesome and Masato Tanaka got brief exposure in ECW, before Awesome was buried in ECW, then WWF and took his own life. Tanaka continued as an independent in Japan, until he battered his body into retirement.
Latham enjoyed a long career as Moondog Spot, while Wayne Ferris went on to become the Honkytonk Man. He was originally set to enter the WWF as Brutus Beefcake; but, hepatitis interrupted that and Hulk Hogan's old buddy, Ed Leslie, got the job. Ferris would come in later with a variation of the Honky Tonk Wayne Ferris gimmick he had in Stampede (which was a rework of Lawler and Dundee).
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Post by codystarbuck on Dec 18, 2019 2:11:12 GMT -5
Ultimate Warrior from 23 to 54Kind of startling to see the progression of him throughout his career and by time he made it in WCW; he really aged in a big way and sad to see him go at the age of 54. Steroids are a b!@#$! You pump that much crap into your body and it is not going to turn out well. This is why Dave Meltzer and other referred to him as the Anabolic Warrior, during his heyday. |
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Post by codystarbuck on Dec 18, 2019 2:20:24 GMT -5
You want young Scott Hall? I present to you, the American Starship....
Man they were horrible! Not one of Dusty's better ideas (David Crockett sucked on solo commentary, without Bob Caudle or Tony Schiavone to lead him).
They went from Crockett to Central States (where I first saw them), before Hall moved on to the AWA, as Magnum Scott Hall; and, just Scott Hall.
Both got better, but, it took a while.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2019 5:50:11 GMT -5
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