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Post by driver1980 on Jun 14, 2024 5:31:17 GMT -5
Thirty five years ago today, Clash of the Champions VII: Guts and Glory aired on TBS.
I really don’t remember seeing this one (you had to rely on tape traders for Clash events). Here was the card:
The Fabulous Freebirds vs. The Dynamic Dudes
Ranger Ross vs. The Terrorist
The Ding Dongs vs. Cougar Jay & George South
The Midnight Express vs. The Samoan Swat Team
Terry Gordy vs. Steve Williams
Norman the Lunatic vs. Mike Justice
The Varsity Club (Mike Rotunda & Kevin Sullivan) vs. The Steiner Brothers
NWA World Television Champion Sting vs. Bill Irwin
The Fabulous Freebirds vs. The Midnight Express
Ricky Steamboat vs. Terry Funk
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Post by commond on Jun 14, 2024 5:42:00 GMT -5
Watched a great WWF match tonight -- Dick Murdoch & Adrian Adonis & Captain Lou Albano vs. Wild Samoans & Sgt. Slaughter (9/22/84). Murdoch and Adonis didn't have a very long run in the WWF but they're perhaps my all-time favorite WWF tag team.
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Post by dbutler69 on Jun 14, 2024 8:16:27 GMT -5
In spite of myself, I did wind up watching a 1994 Undertaker tape. I am having trouble googling it, though, so I can't really say what release it is. I think it's just called the Undertaker. It had matches vs Kamala (awful, and also recycled from a PPV), Crush (better than I expected with some impressive power moves by Crush), Bam Bam Bigelow (meh), Adam Bomb (not that good), and Yokozuna (much better than I expected in spide of the bogus ending. You can tell this was earlier in Yoko's career when he was still mobile). If memory serves me right, that’s The Undertaker The Face of Fear. It was less than an hour, wasn’t it? I believe every match on that tape had been on another tape, proving that if you put The Undertaker’s face on a VHS or DVD, it would sell. Yeah, it was something like 54 minutes, so maybe that's it, though I don't remember any sort of subtitle like The Face of Fear. I thought it just said The Undertaker. |
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Post by driver1980 on Jun 14, 2024 8:19:16 GMT -5
If memory serves me right, that’s The Undertaker The Face of Fear. It was less than an hour, wasn’t it? I believe every match on that tape had been on another tape, proving that if you put The Undertaker’s face on a VHS or DVD, it would sell. Yeah, it was something like 54 minutes, so maybe that's it, though I don't remember any sort of subtitle like The Face of Fear. I thought it just said The Undertaker. It could have had a different title here. Inconsistency, eh?  Reminds me of when In Your House 12 aired on Sky over here, I think it was called “Christmas Combat” or “Christmas Mania” or something. And don’t get me started on how some UK VHS releases omitted matches… |
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Post by dbutler69 on Jun 14, 2024 8:20:58 GMT -5
Yeah, it was something like 54 minutes, so maybe that's it, though I don't remember any sort of subtitle like The Face of Fear. I thought it just said The Undertaker. It could have had a different title here. Inconsistency, eh? Reminds me of when In Your House 12 aired on Sky over here, I think it was called “Christmas Combat” or “Christmas Mania” or something. And don’t get me started on how some UK VHS releases omitted matches… Speaking of that sort of thing, I find it annoying that a lot of Agatha Christie novels have one title over there and a completely different title over here. |
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Post by driver1980 on Jun 14, 2024 8:28:09 GMT -5
It could have had a different title here. Inconsistency, eh? Reminds me of when In Your House 12 aired on Sky over here, I think it was called “Christmas Combat” or “Christmas Mania” or something. And don’t get me started on how some UK VHS releases omitted matches… Speaking of that sort of thing, I find it annoying that a lot of Agatha Christie novels have one title over there and a completely different title over here. It’s so silly, isn’t it? I think about how the UK’s Dracula (1958) is Horror of Dracula in the states. Why? I mean, Dracula is pretty horrific. I’m sure Americans weren’t expecting “Afternoon Tea with Dracula”. I get some changes. UK prison comedy Porridge was called Doing Time in the US. Perhaps Americans might not have known porridge was said to have been a traditional breakfast served in UK prisons. So calling it Doing Time probably made sense. But some changes seemed redundant or nonsensical. UK horror film Witchfinder General was called The Conqueror Worm in the States despite having no connection to the Poe novel of the same name. Why not just keep it as Witchfinder General? |
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Post by codystarbuck on Jun 14, 2024 10:25:44 GMT -5
Speaking of that sort of thing, I find it annoying that a lot of Agatha Christie novels have one title over there and a completely different title over here. It’s so silly, isn’t it? I think about how the UK’s Dracula (1958) is Horror of Dracula in the states. Why? I mean, Dracula is pretty horrific. I’m sure Americans weren’t expecting “Afternoon Tea with Dracula”. I get some changes. UK prison comedy Porridge was called Doing Time in the US. Perhaps Americans might not have known porridge was said to have been a traditional breakfast served in UK prisons. So calling it Doing Time probably made sense. But some changes seemed redundant or nonsensical. UK horror film Witchfinder General was called The Conqueror Worm in the States despite having no connection to the Poe novel of the same name. Why not just keep it as Witchfinder General? It was because they didn't want to confuse it with the Lugosi Dracula, from Universal, which was more iconic. In the US, porridge is usually called oatmeal. Porridge conjured up visions of Goldilocks and The Three Bears, not a prison stretch. The change for Witchfinder General was probably because Vincent Price had notoriety for the AIP distributed Poe films. It was just an attempt to piggyback on it. Most of the time, it's about marketing, using something more familiar to the audience. The first Quatermass film was released as The Creeping Unknown, in the US, because they were trying to sell it as a horror film (which it is) rather than a purely sci-fi film. |
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Post by driver1980 on Jun 14, 2024 17:00:43 GMT -5
WrestleFest ‘88 was an actual event. There wasn’t a WrestleFest ‘89. WrestleFest in 1990 is a compilation tape (and further tapes followed in 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994, and 1995). So that was tonight’s tape for me to revisit:  The opening bout saw Roddy Piper battle Macho King in a spirited bout (the airplane spin always makes me feel sick). It ended inconclusively (Piper wins via DQ). WWF Intercontinental Champion Ultimate Warrior defends against Dino Bravo, who has Earthquake in his corner. On a cartoony-superhero level, this was fun. Warrior wins via DQ - and when Hogan helps out, a misunderstanding ensues, all part of the build up to WM VI. There’s a manager profile on Mr Fuji which is, well, meaningless. It’s brief, we learn nothing, and it adds no value to the tape. In a rather mediocre bout, Rick Martel pins Brutus Beefcake. We then have a profile on The Hart Foundation, featuring 3 matches, none of which end conclusively: they battle The Powers of Pain in a reasonable bout which ends with a count-out win for Bret and Jim; they lose via DQ to Dino Bravo and Honky Tonk Man in a passable bout; and their decent battle with The Rockers (1989) ends in a no-contest thanks to both teams chasing off the interfering Fabulous Rougeaus. We got to see how the WWF lorries transported the production crew/equipment. It was too short and not really insightful, basically just a few shots of lorries and some commentary. Talk about a missed opportunity. Superhero babyface Hulk Hogan battled Mr. Perfect at MSG. He cheated a lot, which is conduct unbecoming of everyone’s hero. Thankfully, Perfect wins via DQ. All that aside, this is the match of the tape - and Perfect proves to be the wrestler who took the perfect bumps. Final match is Ultimate Warrior & Jake Roberts vs. Akeem and Ted DiBiase, with Big Boss Man as the special referee. It’s an intriguing idea for a bout, and ends conclusively as Warrior pins DiBiase, but at under seven minutes, there isn’t enough time to develop things such as rest holds, referees not seeing tags, etc. Out of the 8 bouts, only 2 end with pinfalls. Still, there’s enough here that is rewarding and fun, and like some other releases, it did show a variety of matches and styles.
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Post by codystarbuck on Jun 14, 2024 20:29:15 GMT -5
Wait, who does the Airplane Spin; Piper or Savage? Savage had a match against Austin Idol, for the Memphis International title, where he pulled one out and he was really spinning rapidly. I used to see guys bust one out, in the late 70s/early 80s; but not much after the mid-80s.
The Savage-Idol match was part of the Wrestling Gold series, which featured footage from Ron Martinez' collection (son of Buffalo promoter Pedro Martinez, who ran the NWF), and had an alternate commentary track with Dave Meltzer and Jim Cornette (back when they still spoke to each other). Their commentary (well, Cornette's) was usually more entertaining than the original (except the Memphis footage, since that was Lance Russell). Most of the series was footage from Southwest Championship, Detroit and Memphis, with a few other odds and ends.
Ken Patera used to do his Swinging Neckbreaker, which was a Full Nelson, where he'd shake his opponent like a rag doll and often spun them in circles, before hurl;ing them down. I've seen some clips where he was rotating pretty rapidly, with a smaller opponent.
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Post by driver1980 on Jun 15, 2024 4:04:50 GMT -5
Wait, who does the Airplane Spin; Piper or Savage? Both. Piper does it first, then Savage “returns the favour” moments later. Makes me queasy seeing it. |
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Post by commond on Jun 15, 2024 5:32:01 GMT -5
Watched Sgt. Slaughter & Terry Daniels vs. Dick Murdoch & Adrian Adonis and found it ironic that Slaughter had recruited Daniels into the Cobra Corps.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2024 6:26:59 GMT -5
At Clash of the Castle later on today, I predict 2 belt changes....Drew and *gasp* Chad Gable.....
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Post by driver1980 on Jun 15, 2024 6:29:28 GMT -5
At Clash of the Castle later on today, I predict 2 belt changes....Drew and *gasp* Chad Gable.....
Drew has to win, doesn’t he? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2024 7:01:17 GMT -5
Yep....although it will burn down the OVO Hydro if Punk's music hits and he costs Drew the belt again....setting up Summer Slam.
I'm also disappointed that Ricochet's best on-screen moments on last RAW was a farewell of sorts to write him off tv because his contract is coming to and end in July and he hasn't resigned (yet)....just like Becky. He might be on one last time in July, probably to spoil Bron's chances at MITB or something.
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Post by dbutler69 on Jun 15, 2024 8:14:30 GMT -5
WrestleFest ‘88 was an actual event. There wasn’t a WrestleFest ‘89. WrestleFest in 1990 is a compilation tape (and further tapes followed in 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994, and 1995). So that was tonight’s tape for me to revisit: The opening bout saw Roddy Piper battle Macho King in a spirited bout (the airplane spin always makes me feel sick). It ended inconclusively (Piper wins via DQ). WWF Intercontinental Champion Ultimate Warrior defends against Dino Bravo, who has Earthquake in his corner. On a cartoony-superhero level, this was fun. Warrior wins via DQ - and when Hogan helps out, a misunderstanding ensues, all part of the build up to WM VI. There’s a manager profile on Mr Fuji which is, well, meaningless. It’s brief, we learn nothing, and it adds no value to the tape. In a rather mediocre bout, Rick Martel pins Brutus Beefcake. We then have a profile on The Hart Foundation, featuring 3 matches, none of which end conclusively: they battle The Powers of Pain in a reasonable bout which ends with a count-out win for Bret and Jim; they lose via DQ to Dino Bravo and Honky Tonk Man in a passable bout; and their decent battle with The Rockers (1989) ends in a no-contest thanks to both teams chasing off the interfering Fabulous Rougeaus. We got to see how the WWF lorries transported the production crew/equipment. It was too short and not really insightful, basically just a few shots of lorries and some commentary. Talk about a missed opportunity. Superhero babyface Hulk Hogan battled Mr. Perfect at MSG. He cheated a lot, which is conduct unbecoming of everyone’s hero. Thankfully, Perfect wins via DQ. All that aside, this is the match of the tape - and Perfect proves to be the wrestler who took the perfect bumps. Final match is Ultimate Warrior & Jake Roberts vs. Akeem and Ted DiBiase, with Big Boss Man as the special referee. It’s an intriguing idea for a bout, and ends conclusively as Warrior pins DiBiase, but at under seven minutes, there isn’t enough time to develop things such as rest holds, referees not seeing tags, etc. Out of the 8 bouts, only 2 end with pinfalls. Still, there’s enough here that is rewarding and fun, and like some other releases, it did show a variety of matches and styles. While the other Wrestlefests are available on Peacock, this one isn't, of course. Still, some of this sounds familiar so I guess Coliseum recycled some of this. That Hart Foundation-Rockers finish with the Rougeaus interfering definitely sounds like something I saw, as well as the feature about the WWF lorries (is that anything like av truck?). Hogan cheating?! No way! Seriously, that guy is/was as dirty as any heel. |
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