shaxper
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Post by shaxper on May 7, 2019 19:38:56 GMT -5
I'd sooner read a Mr. Weatherbee comic. Actually, that would be awesome. The one you want is Archie and Me. The "me" in that title is Mr. Weatherbee. My day = made. Thank you.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2019 20:18:05 GMT -5
What am I missing that's so appealing about Reggie? He just seems like the one-sided bad guy in each story. Reggie is the Frenemy in Archie's world. Kind of a jerk most of the time and the constant "other guy" that everyone worries about being better than they are: better looking, richer, better sportsman, better boyfriend or even the better guy that steals away your girl. And he is the comedic foil to Archie and Jughead, so he is a necessary part of the gang. But there are other layers to the guy and he isn't really played as the all out "evil" type of person but more of the self centered and egotistical flashy guy willing to do or take risks that the otherwise quieter Archie would never be capable of. My high school frenemy was a true pain in the gluteus minimus for me during Freshman year until I stood up to him in defense of another person he was picking on. After that confrontation between us we developed a competitive nature of sorts through the rest of high school in most everything and became true best friends who have stood by each other through many a dark night in our lives ever since. Great summary of why Reggie's series was enjoyable. I feel Cheryl Blossom was Betty & Veronica's Reggie in a similar way.
Reggie was brought in right after Veronica was introduced and added some "tension" to the older stories. In later years he became more one dimensional and not as appealing. Although his run ins with Moose (when Reggie got "caught" talking to Midge) were always good for a laugh.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2019 20:19:31 GMT -5
IMO the Archie characters are as important to American comics as Superman, Spider-Man, etc.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2019 22:58:35 GMT -5
What were the issues of Madhouse that had the Morrow/Toth material? A couple have mentioned it was a short run, and I really dig Sorcery, and would love to hunt down those Madhouse issues.
-M
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2019 7:52:36 GMT -5
It's funny that you don't like Reggie--he is my favorite, haha (one of my favorite stories features him and Betty falling for each other--shocking to them both) ! What am I missing that's so appealing about Reggie? He just seems like the one-sided bad guy in each story. I like Reggie as he is Archie's rival and despite having some more advantages than Archie (and his schemes to deter Archie), Archie often comes out on top. In many of the stories, Reggie isn't always the bad guy. There are stories that feature him doing something good (in secret of course).There was a story that featured his friendship with an elderly neighbor. For the most part, Reggie seems to be a good student and generally liked by his peers--and part of the gang despite his bragging, vanity, and extreme confidence. For some reason, I always related more to Reggie than I did Archie. Not that I was a jerk or anything, haha! An interesting note...in many of the 40s and 50s stories, good girl Betty will often join Reggie in his scheming to break up Archie and Veronica. In another story that is one of my favorites, Betty and Reggie even start dating until they decide they both are happier pursuing Veronica and Archie, respectively. Interesting too that in Josie and the Pussycats Alex and Alexandra Cabot fill the role of Reggie in those stories. Jason and Cheryl Blossom also seem to be characters more in line with Reggie.
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Post by Crimebuster on May 8, 2019 8:08:21 GMT -5
What were the issues of Madhouse that had the Morrow/Toth material? A couple have mentioned it was a short run, and I really dig Sorcery, and would love to hunt down those Madhouse issues. -M I believe it's 95-97.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2019 8:12:34 GMT -5
What were the issues of Madhouse that had the Morrow/Toth material? A couple have mentioned it was a short run, and I really dig Sorcery, and would love to hunt down those Madhouse issues. -M I believe it's 95-97. Thanks. Looked at those issues on Lonestar, and yep, it's them. Added to my want list for the next show I go to the first weekend in June. -M
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Post by badwolf on May 8, 2019 8:53:59 GMT -5
Maybe you Riverdale experts can help me out. I've been trying to track down a story I remember reading as a kid. It was called "The Silent Treatment" and it involved Archie not talking to his parents. He walked around the house and did his daily routine but didn't say a word to them. I had it in a digest, but it reprinted stories from different eras, so this story may have appeared elsewhere before. The book I had would have been from the mid to late 70s. The GCD shows a couple possibilities, but neither cover looks super-familiar. I'd prefer to get the exact digest issue but if I can get the story in its original comic (if it's not pricey) that would be cool too. Thanks in advance.
And yeah, Reggie was not always a jerk. I remember in Archie #300 he genuinely wanted to make sure Archie had a good "300th birthday" (that issue was a little meta.)
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Post by Cei-U! on May 8, 2019 9:41:51 GMT -5
A few pieces of Archie trivia I learned in the course of researching my book (I can't share too much or my publisher will kill me):
*in the debut episode, Archie, Betty, and Jughead were young teens, maybe 13 or 14 * Miss Grundy debuted in the second Archie story published--only she was Mrs. Grundy and she was the principal of Riverdale High * Veronica and her family were originally from Boston and were, implicitly related to that city's real-life Lodge clan (as in Henry Cabot Lodge). * In his earliest appearances, Veronica's dad was a U.S. Senator * Reggie was first introduced as the son of Riverdale's Water Commissioner
For the rest of the story, you'll have to buy (or borrow, I'm easy) my book when it comes out on July 19.
Cei-U! I summon the teaser!
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Post by MDG on May 8, 2019 11:56:09 GMT -5
For the rest of the story, you'll have to buy (or borrow, I'm easy) my book when it comes out on July 19. Cei-U! I summon the teaser! Is there going to be a Kindle version?
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Post by Slam_Bradley on May 8, 2019 12:13:16 GMT -5
For the rest of the story, you'll have to buy (or borrow, I'm easy) my book when it comes out on July 19. Cei-U! I summon the teaser! Is there going to be a Kindle version? I've not seen Twomorrows come out with a .mobi or Kindle version of their books. They do sell a PDF through their website. They are usually about 1/3 the price of the print version.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2019 14:07:03 GMT -5
Another cool thing about the older Archie comics...you can find some with art by Neal Adams and Kurt Schaffenberger.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2019 14:14:44 GMT -5
Maybe you Riverdale experts can help me out. I've been trying to track down a story I remember reading as a kid. It was called "The Silent Treatment" and it involved Archie not talking to his parents. He walked around the house and did his daily routine but didn't say a word to them. I had it in a digest, but it reprinted stories from different eras, so this story may have appeared elsewhere before. The book I had would have been from the mid to late 70s. The GCD shows a couple possibilities, but neither cover looks super-familiar. I'd prefer to get the exact digest issue but if I can get the story in its original comic (if it's not pricey) that would be cool too. Thanks in advance. And yeah, Reggie was not always a jerk. I remember in Archie #300 he genuinely wanted to make sure Archie had a good "300th birthday" (that issue was a little meta.) Pep Comics #169. Pep 169. See end of list for digest reprints.
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Post by Rob Allen on May 8, 2019 14:43:26 GMT -5
Regarding The Archies, the rock band from the late 60s, I think they made a mistake having Reggie play bass and Jughead play drums. Those two would be temperamentally suited for each other's instrument. Drumming would give Reggie a chance to be flamboyant and loud, while Jughead will happily and unobtrusively keep the whole band together, as bass players do.
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Post by brutalis on May 8, 2019 15:33:17 GMT -5
Regarding The Archies, the rock band from the late 60s, I think they made a mistake having Reggie play bass and Jughead play drums. Those two would be temperamentally suited for each other's instrument. Drumming would give Reggie a chance to be flamboyant and loud, while Jughead will happily and unobtrusively keep the whole band together, as bass players do. But Reggie is too vain and egotistical to be the drummer sitting in the back of the band. He wants to be splashy and flamboyant and the star up on center stage. Since that is by default Archie, then Reggie is gonna be the bass player if only to drown out Archie, usurp the spotlight whenever he can and be out in front to see the crowd and girls as in his head they cheer only for him! Besides, it takes 2 hands to play bass, but a drummer can drum one handed and you know ol' Juggy has a super sub sandwich in one hand while playing with the other or he can have both hands full while using his feet to play! Pretty sure Jughead has prehensile toes strong enough to drum a beat
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