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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2019 23:59:43 GMT -5
Announced today at C2E2 Diamond Retailer event linkI fondly remember the Wolfman/Prez History of the Dc Universe project from the late 80s and this seems to be along those lines. Mark had this to say about the project on his FB page... Could be an interesting read, but I am guessing in today's internet age of fandom, each issue will result in a lot of wailing and gnashing of teeth by fanboys who don't agree with the choices made or the way it plays out because they don't line up with how they see the MU in their head-canon. -M
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Post by Nowhere Man on Mar 24, 2019 16:38:25 GMT -5
Sort of a curious project in this day and age given the plethora of chronology sites and easy access to comics history. I loved the Wolfman/Perez DC History as well (didn't read it till the early 90's) but that one made perfect sense: DC had just rebooted their universe with Crisis and the series was a great way to introduce new readers to DC's history in a pre-internet world. I suppose Mark Waid is the logical choice given that he's the only "classic creator" currently deemed relevant by the PTB currently at the helm of Marvel publishing. Now if the team was something like Roger Stern and Alan Davis, and it ended around 1991 publishing time, sign me up.
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Post by berkley on Mar 24, 2019 23:54:53 GMT -5
Six issues? For the history of the MU?
Well, at least it shouldn't be too "decompressed" ...
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Post by brutalis on Mar 25, 2019 7:46:06 GMT -5
Wonder how they can consider it the "entire history" of the MU when every new writer seems to want or has to make their imprint on what has already passed and "alter" those existing stories in some way with a new story?
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Post by thwhtguardian on Mar 25, 2019 18:46:30 GMT -5
Wonder how they can consider it the "entire history" of the MU when every new writer seems to want or has to make their imprint on what has already passed and "alter" those existing stories in some way with a new story? As long as the story is entertaining I've never seen that as a bad thing, that's the very nature of a continuously ongoing narrative after all.
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Post by Randle-El on Mar 25, 2019 21:15:45 GMT -5
Am I being cynical if I think that this sounds an awful lot like a rehash of Marvels?
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Post by wildfire2099 on Mar 25, 2019 22:16:14 GMT -5
Sort of a curious project in this day and age given the plethora of chronology sites and easy access to comics history. I loved the Wolfman/Perez DC History as well (didn't read it till the early 90's) but that one made perfect sense: DC had just rebooted their universe with Crisis and the series was a great way to introduce new readers to DC's history in a pre-internet world. I suppose Mark Waid is the logical choice given that he's the only "classic creator" currently deemed relevant by the PTB currently at the helm of Marvel publishing. Now if the team was something like Roger Stern and Alan Davis, and it ended around 1991 publishing time, sign me up. With the Secret Wars Not-a-Reboot, this give Marvel a chance to tell us exactly what the current 'true' history is...it'll be interesting to see if there's anything that changes or gets specifically left out.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2019 22:41:14 GMT -5
Am I being cynical if I think that this sounds an awful lot like a rehash of Marvels? No that would be Busiek & Ross re-teaming for an anniversary special doing a new Marvels story, due out around the same time as this I believe. (though I don't think either Busiek or Ross will be rehashing anything, it is Marvel revisiting that ground as a "celebration" hoping to get big order and big revenue on it. -M
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Post by berkley on Mar 25, 2019 23:42:03 GMT -5
I feel pretty sceptical about this, but only because I feel that way about everything Marvel does these days: the whole sensibility of their current product just isn't in tune with the way I see the MU.
OTOH, I have liked the few samples I've seen of Rodriguez's artwork and wouldn't mind trying something by him. Waid I know is a well-regarded writer, but I don't have any strong feelings one way or the other about his work, not having read much of it, if anything.
So there's a smallish chance I might give this a try, if I don't see anything in the previews or promotions that turns me off - which I must admit isn't likely, going by my general impression of the comics I see from Marvel on the stands.
The fact that it's only 6 issues makes me think that Waid will probably have to come up with some kind of gimmick or quirky story-telling device in order to fit it all in, so a lot will depend on how that looks to me, once a few more details are forthcoming.
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Post by rberman on Mar 26, 2019 12:18:44 GMT -5
Am I being cynical if I think that this sounds an awful lot like a rehash of Marvels? Or Marvel Saga. Or X-Men: Grand Design.
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Post by String on Mar 26, 2019 17:52:41 GMT -5
Well, my first question upon reading about such a miniseries is, how are they going to handle the sliding timescale?
For example,
Did Reed and Ben still serve in WW II?
A closer, more exact date for Peter Parker's graduation from high school and college?
Did Tony Stark get injured in Vietnam War or the War on Terror in Afghanistan or not at all?
Are they going to include more recent additions such as the Celestial influence on superhumans and the Avengers from One Million BC?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2019 23:04:45 GMT -5
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Post by berkley on Mar 27, 2019 0:38:49 GMT -5
Some good, some not so good. Nice Hellfire Club, for example, but Eternity, the Gods, and Celestials aren't very effective. My general impression is that Rodriguez's style works much better at the more down-to-earth or human scale but is less well-suited to the big, cosmic stuff. But this is probably too small a sample size to really judge.
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Post by thwhtguardian on Mar 27, 2019 8:56:28 GMT -5
Some good, some not so good. Nice Hellfire Club, for example, but Eternity, the Gods, and Celestials aren't very effective. My general impression is that Rodriguez's style works much better at the more down-to-earth or human scale but is less well-suited to the big, cosmic stuff. But this is probably too small a sample size to really judge. See, I think I liked the cosmic stuff the best. That page break with what I'm guessing is a brief origin of the Silver Surfer for instance looked fantastic to me, and I loved the looming presence of Galactus over the title on the cover page.
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