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Post by rberman on Jan 19, 2020 15:32:44 GMT -5
I bought Page 15 from Cloak and Dagger #7 (1990) by Mike Vosburg and Barb Rausch. Terry Austin was writing at this point. Wow, that looks very similar in style to John Romita Jr. Yes, I had the same thought, especially that figure of Ecstasy undressing.
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Post by impulse on Jan 19, 2020 18:07:56 GMT -5
Wow, that looks very similar in style to John Romita Jr. Yes, I had the same thought, especially that figure of Ecstasy undressing. I was thinking where the cloak is wrapping the dudes. Strappy lines around squared-off round things is pretty much signature JrJr.
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Post by rberman on Jan 20, 2020 0:28:51 GMT -5
I bought three versions of the same page by Barry Kitson from Superman #39 (2018, so not remotely a "classic comic"). It is an uplifting story, figuratively and literally, in which Superman plays "Make a Wish" for some kids from the cancer ward. They get to meet the JLA and have a scavenger hunt on the JLA Satellite, which is apparently called "The Watchtower" now, Grant Morrison's term for the JLA's moonbase in his late 1990s run. Finally, the kids write their names on moon rocks, on the moon that is. First, a sketch version to figure out blocking: I said "first," but this ink drawing was on the opposite of that page. I guess it was done second? The images are reversed from the pencil version. Was he tracing through the paper? It's pretty thick paper, though. Note that the paper iteself does not bear the DC Comics logo like the other pages I've posted from DC. And then the legit pencils, done on DC's paper instead of Kitson's own. I got these pages to show the process of creation. Here's what it looked like when finished, including inks by Kitson and Scott Hanna. Each page came with a copy of the issue itself, which is nice; I wish that were standard with page purchases, so I don't have to track down the issues separately. I know, "First World Problems."
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Post by rberman on Jan 20, 2020 23:08:15 GMT -5
One general thing I've noticed is that original pages come in a wide variety of sizes. 17 inches tall by 11 inches wide is the default size. But they vary:
Colleen Doran: A Distant Soil is 14x11
Jim Sherman and Josef Rubinstein: Uncanny X-Men #151 is 15.75x10.625
Milo Manara: Jolanda de Almaviva is 13.75x9.75, not surprising for a foreign comic printed at a different size to have a different sized original art page.
John Van Fleet's painted work on Hellraiser #4 is a huge 20x14 on very thick, stiff paper board.
Adam Hughes and Rick Magyar, Maze Agency #4 is surprisingly large for pencil and ink, 18.5x14.
Makes storage tricky! Not to mention the Esposito recreation of Amazing Spider-Man #39, which is 20.25x14.5
Furthermore, the Hellraiser page and the Claremont/Marshall page from Bizarre Adventures came with onion skin tracing paper overlays with the lettering. You can't see the page well through the onion skin, but how to protect the onion skin other than lying it atop the page... to which it is attached with a two inch strip of tape at the top edge? Hmm... Time to hit the art collecting fora.
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Post by rberman on Jan 21, 2020 8:07:59 GMT -5
Next up is a Bagley colored sketch of Black Canary. I prefer it when female characters aren't depicted luridly, even when they're wearing fishnets and leather.
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Post by rberman on Jan 22, 2020 0:43:07 GMT -5
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Post by rberman on Jan 22, 2020 23:47:22 GMT -5
I just realized that I apparently never posted the page I got from from The Walking Dead #191 (the third-to-last issue). Here are Charlie Adlard's pencils: Here's the final page, in which Rick takes Pamela into protective custody during an armed dispute. I covered this part of the story here in my review thread. This series is unusual for having the same penciler for almost 200 issues, and the same inker for most of those as well. Since there aren't ten different artists, there are lots of pages from Adlard, and many of them are still available for a couple of hundred bucks, along with the corresponding final inked page. Who knows what that means for the long-term valuation of the pages once the TV show is off the air.
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Post by rberman on Jan 24, 2020 7:58:18 GMT -5
And now, one in the category of "childhood favorite acquired." This is from New Mutants #10, in which the kids have found a colony of ancient Rome surviving in the jungles of Brazil, which I supposed makes it a 'sword and sandal" variant of the Lost World trope. Instead of dinosaurs, this lost world has intrigue between two ruling houses, both of which are eager to enlist the powerful teens to help tip the balance of power. In researching the world of original comic book art, I've learned that "talking pages" and "pages with small panels" and "pages with main characters out of costume" are all valued less highly than splash pages of costumed heroes in action, which are in effect published pin-ups. Be that as it may, I like this expository page a lot. Inker Tom Mandrake does a great job softening and humanizing Sal Buscema's often blocky pencils while still taking advantage of Buscema's experience with clear layouts. This page features all four main characters and shows their personalities. Young Rahne clings to her mother-figure Dani. Roberto sits slightly apart, closer to the center of power and danger. Sam does the kids' talking and realizes that the Roman politician, lounging in casual power, is not to be trusted. The dialogue is just an info-dump, but the art says more.
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Post by Confessor on Jan 24, 2020 13:02:48 GMT -5
^^ Nice page, rberman. You can spot Mandrake's inking a mile off on that page.
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Post by rberman on Jan 25, 2020 8:15:44 GMT -5
What's better than one New Mutants page? Two New Mutants pages! This one is from later in the same issue: When I listed factors the boost the price of an original art page yesterday, I left an important one out: female skin. Not surpising in a hobby historically targetting adolescent males. This page cost twice what the other one did. At this point in the "lost Roman colony" story, Danielle Moonstar has once again been separated from her friends and captured, and once again been dressed in a sexy outfit by her captors while she slept. Last time (just a few issues prior) the culprit was Viper. This time it's Selene, in her debut appearance. She's a witch (because sword and sandals) but also a mutant (because X-Men). And she knows not to sacrifice virgins to the volcano unless they are wearing bikinis. In panel five, Dani uses her illusion powers to create a frightening hallucination. On the original page above, it's rendered on a separate piece of paper glued atop the main board. That second paper is darker now; I wonder whether it was originally. An instruction in the page's right margin (cropped off of the image above) instructs the printer to render that art as blue on yellow, as seen below. I liked Dani's tactical thinking, wishing she could strike Selene from range rather than tussle an adult woman (evidently with hypnosis powers) at close range.
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Post by rberman on Jan 27, 2020 17:27:46 GMT -5
Update: Thanks to a tip from another forum, the artist behind my Scarlet Witch sketch has been identified. It's Chris Rich-McKelvey, art teacher and janitor in Iowa. www.baldguystudios.com/
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Post by rberman on Jan 27, 2020 20:31:34 GMT -5
Next up, a trio of consecutive Swamp Thing pages by Rick Veitch and Alfredo Alcala! This is from issue #71 (1988). Swamp Thing is trying to have a child, that is, a sprout. He can't find the right human soul to imbue it with life. Constantine knows of an upcoming airplane crash which will contain a victim named Gary Holland. Seems like a good name for a future Swamp Thing. Constantine boards the plane to tell Holland about his impending doom.
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Post by impulse on Jan 27, 2020 22:14:01 GMT -5
Man, a lot of this 80s and 90s stuff looks so much better in just the inks or pencils but before colors. Colors have come a long way over the years.
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Post by rberman on Jan 28, 2020 20:29:15 GMT -5
Man, a lot of this 80s and 90s stuff looks so much better in just the inks or pencils but before colors. Colors have come a long way over the years. Yes, to the point where some modern pages look quite sparse without the color, just as they would have looked sparse without inks in a previous generation. Here's the next page of the Swamp Thing story. And the color version.
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Post by impulse on Jan 29, 2020 0:28:45 GMT -5
Yes, to the point where some modern pages look quite sparse without the color, just as they would have looked sparse without inks in a previous generation. Yeah, you can tell they draw and ink it differently with colors in mind these days. It would be an intriguing documentary or article to read for the 20 people who would be interested in seeing the differences over the years.
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