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Post by hondobrode on Nov 11, 2018 13:36:41 GMT -5
Butch Guice is always good art, even way back then.
I haven't read it since high school but I remember thinking it was all right.
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Post by badwolf on Nov 11, 2018 18:10:16 GMT -5
If video games do count I did have Questprobe #1. I'm not sure why I got it in the first place, but it was clearly written for little kids so I didn't buy the next two. It was supposed to be a maxi-series but the games were cancelled though the fourth issue, an X-Men story, eventually saw print in Marvel Fanfare.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2018 18:12:44 GMT -5
If we're going with video game based comics, I'll throw out Swordquest by Thomas, Conway and Perez... -M
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Post by Confessor on Nov 11, 2018 18:53:56 GMT -5
If we're gonna include video games, then I pick Atari Force as my favourite toy-related comic by a country mile.
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Post by Cei-U! on Nov 11, 2018 19:42:02 GMT -5
If we're gonna include video games, then I pick Atari Force as my favourite toy-related comic by a country mile. Agreed!
Cei-U! Really needs to collect it one of these days!
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Nov 11, 2018 20:43:40 GMT -5
If we're gonna include video games, then I pick Atari Force as my favourite toy-related comic by a country mile. Oh yeah!!
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Post by berkley on Nov 12, 2018 3:17:04 GMT -5
I was about to say that I must have been the wrong age for this kind of thing by just a few years, because I couldn't think of anything from the late-60s to mid-70s, when I was at the age you were into toys. For example, we had GI Joe toys - well actually, cheap knock-off imitations of them, but I knew about GI Joe from the Christmas catalogues - but the GI Joe comics hadn't yet started at that time, and I never felt enugh nostalgia for them to be attracted when they did come out in the later 70s (was it?). But then I remembered: I can't say now after all this time which issues of the apparently very short-lived Hot Wheels series we had in the house but this is the only cover that looks vaguely familiar. I was really into the Hot Wheels toys in those years, and remember reading more than a few car-racing based comics. Something about Alex Toth's artwork, which I only came to know and recognise years later, makes me think that this was one of them, though I'd have to find and read it again to have a firmer idea. By the time things like Rom and GI Joe and so on came out their toy-based origins wouldn't have been something to entice me. But though I ignored it back when it came out, I do plan to give the Micronauts a try one of these days, since I've always liked Michael Golden's art - and if I found out that Steranko or someone drew a GI Joe comic I'd be all over it!
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Post by beccabear67 on Nov 12, 2018 13:42:18 GMT -5
Off topic, but: It's too bad there isn't a market for or way to reprint the Alex Toth Hot Wheels comics. I've only ever seen a page or two printed small in b&w as illustration to a Dick Giordano interview. There are so many one-off Toth stories too someone could collect up like a single Green lantern in the '80s, a '70s Charlton Bullseye The Question, Adventure Comics #425, and I remember a Black Canary back-up of some kind in a giant DC. I remember seeing the Sectaurs comic but didn't buy it... as I loved Micronauts for the long haul, how did the Sectaurs comic compare? I had three Marvel Smurfs comics and some of the little rubbery figures (I think from a Hallmark store), still have one, holding a pudding-cake. So to me Smurfs were partly a toy comic. Same with GI Joe and Star Wars I suppose. I only voted for Micronauts and Rom. I bought both titles for such a long time, through thick and thin... I guess that's a credit to Bill Mantlo as much as anyone. Nothing else really compares to those two. Maybe if I hadn't missed those Art Adams Gumby comics...
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Post by coke & comics on Nov 17, 2018 3:04:25 GMT -5
Transformers was the first comic series I tried to collect regularly and Transformers #3 was the first Spider-Man comic I ever read.
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Post by chaykinstevens on Nov 17, 2018 16:02:07 GMT -5
I voted for Captain Action, Micronauts (for the issues drawn by Golden/Rubinstein or Broderick/Gil and the second series by Peter B Gillis and Kelley Jones) and Cops (Doug Moench's writing on Shogun Warriors did nothing for me, but I quite liked this, especially the issues pencilled by Pat Broderick). I thought Rom was okay, mainly the early self-inked issues by Sal Buscema, the ones inked by Akin and Garvey, the one with Ronald Reagan inked by Bill Sienkiewicz, and the issues drawn by Ditko and Russell. I'd never heard of Ring Raiders, and the name sounds a bit dodgy, but I see it had the benefit of covers by the excellent Ian Kennedy.
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Post by chaykinstevens on Nov 17, 2018 17:06:53 GMT -5
But though I ignored it back when it came out, I do plan to give the Micronauts a try one of these days, since I've always liked Michael Golden's art - and if I found out that Steranko or someone drew a GI Joe comic I'd be all over it! I think G.I. Joe #24 drawn by Russ Heath and G.I.Joe Yearbook #2 drawn by Michael Golden were as good as it got. I think J. Scott Campbell once cited the latter as his favourite comic of all time, not that that's much of a recommendation.
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Post by bor on Nov 18, 2018 5:36:16 GMT -5
Transformers without a doubt. Loved the toys and the comics. The bios which had both robot and vehicle mode were great, I have the collected editions from idw and they are some of my favorite collected editions.
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Post by Dizzy D on Nov 18, 2018 6:26:30 GMT -5
Rom and Micronauts never made it over here at this side of the ocean, so the comics were never published here and I can't tell anything about it. I'm interested in reading the original Rom, the recent reboot did nothing for me, probably because they couldn't use his cast and villains.
So I'm being very mainstream here with my 3 choices:
1. Transformers: The first comics were a bit iffy; (designs of some characters changed, the dutch translation insisted on calling Optimus Prime "Jetfire" for the first 4 issues. Then running into a problem when the actual Jetfire was introduced next issue), but Simon Furman's run was one of my favourite comics as a kid. Especially Grimlock became a much better character. I've not read most of the comics that came after they left Marvel, until they ended up at IDW. I read some of the new series through Humble Bundle (IDW's Phase 2 mostly, Phase 1 was still too much like the old comics) and found them to be really good comics. No longer bound to be toy commercials, the new creative teams got the establish the Transformers as a species: how do they procreate, how do they deal with being nearly immortal, what are their religions, philosophies and politics, why did the war start between Autobots and Decepticons, what happens if the war ends, were there Transformers that didn't fight in the war. All questions that are answered in the IDW comics.
2. Masters of the Universe: Never read the first DC version, but I have read many of the mini-comics, the Marvel comics (Star) and the comics published in the UK and in Italy by Panini. All of them had their own take and had differences. Star were toy commercials, most of the mini's were as well, but some of the mini-comics were really good. The Panini comics also had little to do with the toys and had some interesting stories were He-Man's victories came at a cost or were not victories at all. As a kid I picked elements of each that I loved. Dan Abnett's recent run in DC Comics did the same: it took elements of all these various comics, cartoon, toyline (even including some prototype toys that were never developed) and turned it into a coherent story that I loved (though I was disappointed by the last few issues).
3 G.I. Joe: only read the Marvel issues (loved how Larry Hama was really impressive in creating so many different characters that all filled their role. I love even the silly ones like the accountant that dresses up like a bird) and the IDW (Humble Bundle again and again comics that I found just plain good comics.) IDW: Dixon went overboard with making Cobra too dangerous. I understand that the cartoon made them sometimes laughably incompetent, but the story were a single Viper (the most basic grunt in Cobra's army) went toe-to-toe with Snake Eyes, the martial expert was too much. I hated how supercompetent Snake Eyes and Storm Shadow became in the Devil Due's comics that I tried to the point none of the other characters were of any use when either of those two were involved, but there is a line between nobody can beat Snake Eyes and the lowest grunt is a match for the expert. I loved IDW's The Last Laugh and the followup comics. Disliked Fred van Lente's reboot afterwards; IDW may have been getting too dark, but van Lente turned it into a not particular funny comedy book. Normally I like his work, but this was just a bad match.
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Post by Mormel on Nov 18, 2018 12:56:13 GMT -5
Rom and Micronauts never made it over here at this side of the ocean, so the comics were never published here and I can't tell anything about it. I'm interested in reading the original Rom, the recent reboot did nothing for me, probably because they couldn't use his cast and villains. So I'm being very mainstream here with my 3 choices: 1. Transformers: The first comics were a bit iffy; (designs of some characters changed, the dutch translation insisted on calling Optimus Prime "Jetfire" for the first 4 issues. Then running into a problem when the actual Jetfire was introduced next issue), but Simon Furman's run was one of my favourite comics as a kid. Especially Grimlock became a much better character. I've not read most of the comics that came after they left Marvel, until they ended up at IDW. I read some of the new series through Humble Bundle (IDW's Phase 2 mostly, Phase 1 was still too much like the old comics) and found them to be really good comics. No longer bound to be toy commercials, the new creative teams got the establish the Transformers as a species: how do they procreate, how do they deal with being nearly immortal, what are their religions, philosophies and politics, why did the war start between Autobots and Decepticons, what happens if the war ends, were there Transformers that didn't fight in the war. All questions that are answered in the IDW comics. 2. Masters of the Universe: Never read the first DC version, but I have read many of the mini-comics, the Marvel comics (Star) and the comics published in the UK and in Italy by Panini. All of them had their own take and had differences. Star were toy commercials, most of the mini's were as well, but some of the mini-comics were really good. The Panini comics also had little to do with the toys and had some interesting stories were He-Man's victories came at a cost or were not victories at all. As a kid I picked elements of each that I loved. Dan Abnett's recent run in DC Comics did the same: it took elements of all these various comics, cartoon, toyline (even including some prototype toys that were never developed) and turned it into a coherent story that I loved (though I was disappointed by the last few issues). 3 G.I. Joe: only read the Marvel issues (loved how Larry Hama was really impressive in creating so many different characters that all filled their role. I love even the silly ones like the accountant that dresses up like a bird) and the IDW (Humble Bundle again and again comics that I found just plain good comics.) IDW: Dixon went overboard with making Cobra too dangerous. I understand that the cartoon made them sometimes laughably incompetent, but the story were a single Viper (the most basic grunt in Cobra's army) went toe-to-toe with Snake Eyes, the martial expert was too much. I hated how supercompetent Snake Eyes and Storm Shadow became in the Devil Due's comics that I tried to the point none of the other characters were of any use when either of those two were involved, but there is a line between nobody can beat Snake Eyes and the lowest grunt is a match for the expert. I loved IDW's The Last Laugh and the followup comics. Disliked Fred van Lente's reboot afterwards; IDW may have been getting too dark, but van Lente turned it into a not particular funny comedy book. Normally I like his work, but this was just a bad match. The Dutch edition of Marvel's Transformers did have a funny thing going on where they insisted on avoiding the words 'dead' and 'death' for the Transformers, even if the original English version used those words. So you'd have a title like 'Back From the Dead' being translated as 'Terug van de schroothoop' ('Back from the scrap heap') and characters exclaiming 'Je bent schroot!' ('You're scrap!') instead of 'You're dead!' Also loved the Transformers Universe profile entries like Bor mentioned. Those actually managed to flesh out characters that maybe had two or three lines in the entire comic run but were otherwise background characters. Like Landfill being a smelly slob, Pointblank being a pacifist, and so on.
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