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Post by MWGallaher on Nov 8, 2018 10:04:16 GMT -5
Jim Aparo once sent me a Xerox of a page of an inventory story he drew if needed for Detective Comics. Alas, it was never needed. I can't believe there's a Jim Aparo Batman story out there - assuming that it was a Batman story for Tec and not a back-up Green Arrow or something - that hasn't seen the light of day. At the same time, I know that a lot of inventory stories were made in case someone else was late turning in their tale meaning there should be more stuff like this out there. Yes, it was prepared during the period when Azrael was operating as Batman, 1994, but featured the original Batman and Robin in an "untold" tale that could have been used as a fill-in without interrupting the ongoing story line. So it seems like it could have been used somewhere, but I imagine that it was never needed during the Azbats run, and then DC didn't want to interrupt the flow once Bruce Wayne returned with a flashback. I'm fascinated by the prospect of so many unpublished inventory stories out there, but when Marvel Fanfare relied primarily on those, to generally disappointing results (to me, anyway), I realized that maybe we're not really missing much.
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Post by berkley on Nov 9, 2018 2:49:34 GMT -5
I'm not sure if this is really the kind of thing the thread is asking about but I believe there were at least two famous plot scenarios that were pretty thoroughly elaborated by the writers but never were drawn by an artist, let alone published - I'm thinking of Steve Gerber's Void Indigo and Alan Moore's DC thing that later turned into Kingdom Come, if that's right? I've read Moore's synopsis but not the actually published comic, written by others, that is said to have been inspired by it.
And I just thought of another one - Jim Shooter was going to write a sequel to his Korvac Saga some years ago, I read online - and to be fair, much as I dislike Shooter's work in general, the synopsis left a good impression on me: it almost felt as if he was trying to correct some of the mistakes he'd made with the Avengers in the past, though in some respects, it must be said, he repeated them (for example, the Big Bad was someone "even more powerful" than the already all-powerful Korvac/Michael, just as in the original Michael was even more powerful than anyone or anything hitherto considered the most powerful entities of the MU). Still, given those limitations - in fairness, shared by many more superhero writers than just Shooter - I remember feeling that this was a series I might want to read, depending on the artist, as always.
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Post by shaxper on Nov 9, 2018 6:05:46 GMT -5
What I'd most like is a high quality version of this one known Neal Adams X-Men portfolio piece... He sells prints of this at shows. I actually have one.
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Post by beccabear67 on Nov 9, 2018 14:12:09 GMT -5
What I'd most like is a high quality version of this one known Neal Adams X-Men portfolio piece... He sells prints of this at shows. I actually have one. Just researched ebay and nothing even under completed for such a print. Err, any chance of a nice large scan of it? I can trade scans of three '60s SF Fillmore posters if that helps...
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Post by shaxper on Nov 9, 2018 22:14:19 GMT -5
He sells prints of this at shows. I actually have one. Just researched ebay and nothing even under completed for such a print. Err, any chance of a nice large scan of it? I can trade scans of three '60s SF Fillmore posters if that helps... If only I had access to a scanner. I do scans for my review threads with my phone 😏
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Post by Confessor on Nov 10, 2018 5:53:12 GMT -5
I can trade scans of three '60s SF Fillmore posters if that helps... If only you had posters from the Phil Maurice
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Post by Nowhere Man on Nov 10, 2018 8:34:26 GMT -5
I didn't know publishers could be commissioned for private jobs. This has opened conundrums in my mind. Both Marvel and DC have licensing departments that produce promotional comics, anyone who wants can try to make arrangements for them to produce a comic for them. The quantity produced and the profitability (or tax deduction if done for a charitable cause) are often the deciding factor, though sometimes it is a matter of who the publisher wants to be associated with (there was a brouhaha a year or so ago when a company had contracted Marvel to produce a promo comic for them only to have Marvel cancel it after it was announced and received a lot of bad PR as the company was involved in some questionable activities in the Middle East-I forget the specifics of the company and the controversy but it was all over Bleeding Cool at the time). A privately commissioned comic would go through the same channels and have to go through the same hoops, but it is possible, just not likely without a lot of resources behind it. But everything from Superman Meets the Qwikbuny to the Teen Titans anti-drug comic to the Spider-Man anti-child abuse comics were produced through someone hiring Marvel or DC to produce a special comic for them. It just a matter of having the resources to make doing so worth their while or appealing to them in some way. -M Now I badly want Elon Musk to get it in his head that he should star alongside a famous superhero in a 12-issue limited series. Comics is just about the only field he hasn't conquered at this point. Iron Man seems the logical choice, as does Batman, but my heart hopes he chooses the Silver Surfer... To top it all off the first 100 subscribers would get each issue delivered to their homes in a fully automated Tesla.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2018 18:01:23 GMT -5
My feet...
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Post by eyevseye on Nov 22, 2021 14:42:09 GMT -5
Hey bud saw your post... I have The Books of Zomxathia vol. 1 that I've never been able to get a lot of background about.. cool book. Is Vol. 2 ultimately more rare. Also digging a little deeper in my boarded and bagged collection and I have volume 2 as well.
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Post by badwolf on Nov 22, 2021 15:47:16 GMT -5
I'm not sure if this is really the kind of thing the thread is asking about but I believe there were at least two famous plot scenarios that were pretty thoroughly elaborated by the writers but never were drawn by an artist, let alone published - I'm thinking of Steve Gerber's Void Indigo and Alan Moore's DC thing that later turned into Kingdom Come, if that's right? I've read Moore's synopsis but not the actually published comic, written by others, that is said to have been inspired by it. I'd love to see Void Indigo completed too.
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Post by Crimebuster on Nov 22, 2021 16:42:15 GMT -5
Hey bud saw your post... I have The Books of Zomxathia vol. 1 that I've never been able to get a lot of background about.. cool book. Is Vol. 2 ultimately more rare. Also digging a little deeper in my boarded and bagged collection and I have volume 2 as well. I've read that the print run for both issues is 1000, though I don't know if that's accurate or not. #2 may not be more rare, but the Frank Thorne cover means it's more desirable to a bigger audience and thus is sold less often.
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Post by Crimebuster on Nov 22, 2021 16:44:47 GMT -5
One that I was thrilled and shocked to read a while ago was Prez #5. I love Prez! It was canceled after #4 in 1974 I believe. But there was a #5 completed that was never published... until DC snuck it into a Prez TPB in 2016! So great.
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Post by The Captain on Nov 22, 2021 20:15:59 GMT -5
One that I was thrilled and shocked to read a while ago was Prez #5. I love Prez! It was canceled after #4 in 1974 I believe. But there was a #5 completed that was never published... until DC snuck it into a Prez TPB in 2016! So great. This is like what Marvel did with Ms. Marvel #24 and #25, which they published years after her series got canceled at issue #23. I knew the stories existed, but it took me a while to hunt those books down so I could see where they planned to take the series. Issue #24, printed in Marvel Super-Heroes Summer 1992 edition, featured Carol working with Iron Man on some things before facing off against Sabretooth. Issue #25, printed in Marvel Super-Heroes Fall 1992 edition, is a double-sized issue that begins with Carol investigating the Hellfire Club and running into Harry Leland and Donald Pierce, then morphs into a story with Mystique's Brotherhood of Evil Mutants. What's interesting is that the first 2/3 of the story have the original Mike Vosburg artwork, but I guess he never finished it, because the last 8-10 pages are done by Mike Gustovich, and it is ridiculously noticeable that he doesn't even try to ape Vosburg's style. He completely redesigns both Carol's and Pyro's costumes from Vosburg's last panel to his first. The main reason, I suspect, to print the second story is because it shows where Rogue steals Carol's memories and powers, which happen on the last page of actual story. The final page of the issue is sort of a "here's what happened next" epilogue, detailing how Rogue eventually sought out the X-Men to help her with her problem, how Spider-Woman apparently rescued Carol from San Francisco Bay (where Rogue had thrown her after being overwhelmed), and how Carol's "Binary" powers were unlocked later by the High Evolutionary. Were they necessary? No, but as a completionist, I was glad that they finished the story and let us see what direction the book would have taken (unless they actually planned to end it on the Rogue mind steal, which would have been odd to complete a book on a planned cliffhanger).
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