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Post by badwolf on Jan 2, 2021 17:44:19 GMT -5
So what do you all think about the Wonder Woman is a "rapist" controversy from the movie that is a current topic? Is this what comes from making "adult" movies from comic books? Not seeing the forest for the tree syndrome in not considering or thinking through all the so called "great" ideas? There is definitely something problematic about either of them being willing to hijack someone's body to fulfill their fantasy. I feel the "real" Diana would have known immediately that it wasn't right. Steve made the correct decision in the end.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2021 18:28:13 GMT -5
So what do you all think about the Wonder Woman is a "rapist" controversy from the movie that is a current topic? Is this what comes from making "adult" movies from comic books? Not seeing the forest for the tree syndrome in not considering or thinking through all the so called "great" ideas? I'll admit it didn't even register as a thing with me, because it's not something that comes up in the real world (yet?). I agree with badwolf that Steve made the right decision, but while I do think Diana would've seen it as wrongn immediately from the outside, her love for him kept her from seeing/acknowledging it was wrong. I doubt it'll have any impact on my enjoyment now that I'm aware of it.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Jan 3, 2021 21:10:48 GMT -5
If the only good thing about this movie was the Pitch Meeting it generated, it would have been worth it.
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Post by emilierobbins on Jan 4, 2021 10:31:17 GMT -5
My mom said she thought the eighties element wasn’t really utilized and that it was just 15 minutes of nostalgia porn tacked on to the beginning of a movie that could have taken place in any era.
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Post by badwolf on Jan 4, 2021 11:33:26 GMT -5
I can't think of any reason why it needed to be set in the 80s at all. The wardrobe scene was cringey.
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Post by badwolf on Jan 4, 2021 11:47:10 GMT -5
If the only good thing about this movie was the Pitch Meeting it generated, it would have been worth it. That is fantastic! I allowed myself to be carried along while I was watching it (and wanted really badly to like it) but the more I think about it afterwards the more I realize how bad it was. Frank Cho said it was the worst superhero movie made and... yeah, it's down there.
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Post by Confessor on Jan 5, 2021 15:14:25 GMT -5
If the only good thing about this movie was the Pitch Meeting it generated, it would have been worth it. Brilliant. I have zero interest in seeing this movie, but that was damn funny My mom said she thought the eighties element wasn’t really utilized and that it was just 15 minutes of nostalgia porn tacked on to the beginning of a movie that could have taken place in any era. This doesn't surprise me at all. The WW1 era period detail was appallingly bad in the first WW film -- half-arsed lip service to the era with anachronisms a-plenty. Sounds like this one is even more poorly done.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jan 5, 2021 15:27:03 GMT -5
If the only good thing about this movie was the Pitch Meeting it generated, it would have been worth it. Brilliant. I have zero interest in seeing this movie, but that was damn funny My mom said she thought the eighties element wasn’t really utilized and that it was just 15 minutes of nostalgia porn tacked on to the beginning of a movie that could have taken place in any era. This doesn't surprise me at all. The WW1 era period detail was appallingly bad in the first WW film -- half-arsed lip service to the era with anachronisms a-plenty. Sounds like this one is even more poorly done. I'm not trying to excuse laziness, but it's one thing to half-ass a period 100 years ago. Most people aren't going to know the difference. It's quite another to half-ass an era that a reasonable percentage of your audience lived through.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2021 15:53:01 GMT -5
I thought it felt like a movie from the 80s, as opposed to a modern movie trying to remind me at every turn that I was watching a movie set in the 80s. Even the clothes scene, which I’ll admit wasn’t my favorite, felt like the kinda montage you’d see.
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Post by Confessor on Jan 5, 2021 17:16:36 GMT -5
I'm not trying to excuse laziness, but it's one thing to half-ass a period 100 years ago. Most people aren't going to know the difference. It's quite another to half-ass an era that a reasonable percentage of your audience lived through. That's true enough, I suppose. But yeah, laziness or poor attention to detail shouldn't really be excused in filmmaking. Given the money that these productions have lavished on them there's no excuse for any technical shortcomings of that nature.
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Post by tarkintino on Jan 5, 2021 21:25:20 GMT -5
So what do you all think about the Wonder Woman is a "rapist" controversy from the movie that is a current topic? Is this what comes from making "adult" movies from comic books? Not seeing the forest for the tree syndrome in not considering or thinking through all the so called "great" ideas? She was fully aware that a man had his body occupied by another, and she had no problem with that, or using him sexually, and not once did any character question how incredibly immoral the entire situation was. This is what the Wonder Woman character has become, which is night and day to the character as the moral compass she was in the original film. Then again, the more thoughtful screenwriters of that film were not involved with WW84, and it shows.
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Post by tarkintino on Jan 5, 2021 21:30:22 GMT -5
My mom said she thought the eighties element wasn’t really utilized and that it was just 15 minutes of nostalgia porn tacked on to the beginning of a movie that could have taken place in any era. Nostalgia porn is a good way of putting it, as nostalgia usually goes overboard in making cultural references more significant and omnipresent than they were, such as films set in the 50s, where the world is filled with chrome-covered diners, everyone listening to Elvis and all women are wearing pearls while mopping the floor (in a non-satirical fashion), etc. IOW, the real 1980s did not look like that depicted in WW84.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2021 9:28:19 GMT -5
Finally saw it. It wasn't as good as the first movie. It was entertaining. The character of Max became boring very quickly. And yeah the Steve Trevor body highjacking story was a bit creepy. I wish they had brought him back in a different way.
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Post by shaxper on Jan 22, 2021 10:05:47 GMT -5
If the only good thing about this movie was the Pitch Meeting it generated, it would have been worth it. That was fantastic. I haven't seen the film, and I'm now on the fence as to whether I ever will, but this was fun!
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Sept 1, 2022 19:57:18 GMT -5
I finally saw the movie. I really liked the casting, but the plot seemed rather disjointed, emotional conflicts tacked on, and (perhaps everyone is basically playing in front if a green screen) the characters never really came alive. The CGI was embarrassingly obvious most of the time, and there was little dramatic tension.
However... the post-credit scene made it all worthwhile. I can't stop smiling!
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