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Post by Warmonger on Nov 21, 2017 14:03:55 GMT -5
Charlie Rose fired by PBS and CBS News
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Post by Icctrombone on Nov 21, 2017 18:58:13 GMT -5
Charlie Rose fired by PBS and CBS News The speed in which he was terminated could only mean that it was more than common knowledge that he was a pervert.
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Post by codystarbuck on Nov 21, 2017 23:52:04 GMT -5
Charlie Rose fired by PBS and CBS News The speed in which he was terminated could only mean that it was more than common knowledge that he was a pervert. The Washington Post expose detailed a lot of behavior that was well known. he should have been fired decades ago, based on repeated allegations. Now, John Lassiter, of Pixar..... There's a snake in the Pixar boot. Details suggest inappropriate kissing, touching and comments about physical attributes; but, doesn't mention anything at the level of Weinstein or rattner. Regardless, creating an environment where women feel uncomfortable, even if not intentional, ain't good. Lassiter announced a 6 month hiatus, in advance of a Hollywood reporter story. Buzz and Woody are shocked! Wonder what Bo Peep thinks?
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Post by Icctrombone on Nov 26, 2017 8:54:43 GMT -5
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Post by The Captain on Nov 29, 2017 12:04:17 GMT -5
Matt Lauer fired this morning. Must be pretty solid evidence against him for NBC to just dump the face of their morning programming instead of an administrative leave or scaling back of his duties.
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Post by Icctrombone on Nov 29, 2017 19:28:17 GMT -5
The latest I heard was he assaulted a co- worker during the Olympics in 2014. Why are none of these " assaults" being prosecuted in the courts?
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Post by Phil Maurice on Nov 29, 2017 20:28:28 GMT -5
Why are none of these "assaults" being prosecuted in the courts? Putting quotes around the word is not a good look. There's a guy on Twitter who does that constantly and it's infuriating. Pursuing a case like this through the legal system is like re-living the nightmare voluntarily. Often the offenders have far more power, money, and notoriety than the victims. The likely outcomes include stigma, shame, ostracizing, condemnation, and financial ruin. Would you roll the dice on such a proposition, or would you more sensibly just shrink away from it as quickly as you can?
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Nov 29, 2017 21:10:41 GMT -5
The latest I heard was he assaulted a co- worker during the Olympics in 2014. Why are none of these " assaults" being prosecuted in the courts? Weinstein is being investigated in both New York and London. Anything Lauer did in Sochi would have to be pursued by Russian authorities. Good luck with that. There are a lot of issues with these kinds of cases. Statutes of Limitation being just one of them. As a defense attorney I can tell you that probably 90+% of domestic violence cases (not the same, but in some ways similar) end up being dismissed or pled to something much lesser because of victims reluctance to proceed for any of a large number of reasons.
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Post by Prince Hal on Nov 29, 2017 21:25:45 GMT -5
The latest I heard was he assaulted a co- worker during the Olympics in 2014. Why are none of these " assaults" being prosecuted in the courts? Weinstein is being investigated in both New York and London. Anything Lauer did in Sochi would have to be pursued by Russian authorities. Good luck with that. There are a lot of issues with these kinds of cases. Statutes of Limitation being just one of them. As a defense attorney I can tell you that probably 90+% of domestic violence cases (not the same, but in some ways similar) end up being dismissed or pled to something much lesser because of victims reluctance to proceed for any of a large number of reasons. So you're saying life is more complicated than some of us think it is? That explains a lot. But it sure does make my head hurt. All that damn thinking.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Nov 29, 2017 21:30:24 GMT -5
Weinstein is being investigated in both New York and London. Anything Lauer did in Sochi would have to be pursued by Russian authorities. Good luck with that. There are a lot of issues with these kinds of cases. Statutes of Limitation being just one of them. As a defense attorney I can tell you that probably 90+% of domestic violence cases (not the same, but in some ways similar) end up being dismissed or pled to something much lesser because of victims reluctance to proceed for any of a large number of reasons. So you're saying life is more complicated than some of us think it is? That explains a lot. But it sure does make my head hurt. All that damn thinking. Life and the law are not a 30 second soundbite.
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Post by Prince Hal on Nov 29, 2017 22:05:51 GMT -5
So you're saying life is more complicated than some of us think it is? That explains a lot. But it sure does make my head hurt. All that damn thinking. Life and the law are not a 30 second soundbite. You aren't watching Fox News. Things are so simple there.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2017 0:17:05 GMT -5
Matt Lauer fired this morning. Must be pretty solid evidence against him for NBC to just dump the face of their morning programming instead of an administrative leave or scaling back of his duties. I just can't believe it happen and yet there is solid evidence against him. I just having a hard time understanding these public figures and celebrities are dealing with these serious issues against them. My brother told me all about it and stunned by it; and loss his job as the face of morning programming with NBC.
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Post by codystarbuck on Nov 30, 2017 0:51:07 GMT -5
You have to realize that modern media is the entertainment business, just as much as Hollywood. That business attracts a lot of damaged people, looking to be famous (performers, reporters, on-air personalities, etc) and there is no shortage of people out to exploit that, for their own gain, financial or sexual. You can add a long history a men with a lot of power acting like randy frat brothers, with the money to fuel things and protect them, not to mention the power to intimidate victims into silence. Even supposed liberal bastions are seeing this, as NPR had two executives resign/be fired over allegations and the handling of complaints.
A lot of chickens are coming home to roost and I suspect we will see more icons fall. The question is whether the culture will change as a result, or just keep a low profile until the furor dies down and the spotlight moves on to a new topic? I hope the former, I expect the latter. If nothing else, I hope it encourages more victims to speak out sooner and pursue justice, knowing that they aren't alone. We still have to back them when they do pursue justice and ensure that justice is done, through the appropriate avenues.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Nov 30, 2017 7:01:52 GMT -5
You have to realize that modern media is the entertainment business, just as much as Hollywood. That business attracts a lot of damaged people, looking to be famous (performers, reporters, on-air personalities, etc) and there is no shortage of people out to exploit that, for their own gain, financial or sexual. You can add a long history a men with a lot of power acting like randy frat brothers, with the money to fuel things and protect them, not to mention the power to intimidate victims into silence. Even supposed liberal bastions are seeing this, as NPR had two executives resign/be fired over allegations and the handling of complaints. A lot of chickens are coming home to roost and I suspect we will see more icons fall. The question is whether the culture will change as a result, or just keep a low profile until the furor dies down and the spotlight moves on to a new topic? I hope the former, I expect the latter. If nothing else, I hope it encourages more victims to speak out sooner and pursue justice, knowing that they aren't alone. We still have to back them when they do pursue justice and ensure that justice is done, through the appropriate avenues. Same here. We will collectively move on when event fatigue sets in, when the guilty find a way to defuse the issue (“it’s really no more than a case of he said she said”) or when a legitimate problem degenerates into a heavily polarized shouting match that ordinary folks would rather stay clear of. I hope victims can get justice, yes, but more than that I hope to see more men start acting like men instead of entitled a##$0(3s. It is totally unacceptable for someone to force themselves on someone else, and such behaviour should be severely condemned... not tolerated or (heaven forbid) jokingly encouraged. ”Grab ‘em by the p###y” indeed... That’s a disgrace.
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Post by Icctrombone on Nov 30, 2017 7:15:48 GMT -5
I don't think we're going to move on anytime soon. Women feel empowered to step forward. Good for them. The thing I can't wrap my brain around is why? Lauer and others can have any 1000 women they want, why bother the 5 that don't want you ?
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