K. But what annoys me is that now EVERYONE seems to be speaking out like they're heroes for doing so. They are not heroes , they didn't say anything before, they should keep their silence now.

And just why should they keep quiet? So we never find out that Kevin Spacey is a creep and they're going to have to rewrite the last season of House of Cards around him not being there, so the fans don't get the ending they want? Or so we never hear about what a scumbag Louis C.K. is, because he's a really funny comedian and we like his shows and specials and were looking forward to his new movie? How about George Takei or Dustin Hoffman, respected actors with millions of fans, whose reputations have now been tarnished by individuals coming forward years later, when it would have been easier for them to just take that crap to their graves so we can continue to read Takei's tweets or watch Rain Man without being reminded of how they treated another human being?

I'm asking, because those are all things I've seen written elsewhere. There are people less pissed off about Kevin Spacey being a creep and more about the fact that a stupid f#$@ing TV show won't have a proper ending, or that Ellen Page opened her mouth about Bret Ratner and that might impact the next Wonder Woman movie because of Gal Gadot taking a stand like a real hero instead of going along for just another paycheck.

As the father of two daughters, I want them to grow up in a world where they never have to fear speaking up if a man, or woman, does something to them that makes them uncomfortable, hurts them, or threatens their education or livelihood unless they give in to the advances. They need to feel empowered to tell people in authority so that it never happens to anyone else and so they don't live in shame thinking there is something wrong with them or that they are to blame.

I love you, man, but you couldn't be more wrong on this if you tried.

But since they didn't say anything, because they were ashamed or traumatized or felt that the powerful men who forced them to do things or witness things or experience things might retaliate, and others later went through the same thing because those feelings kept the original victims from coming forward, they should just keep their mouths shut and act like it never happened?  Nope.  Just more victim blaming and shaming, making it their fault somehow, instead of placing the blame where it actually belongs.

How about Harvey Weinstein doesn't use his position of power to do whatever he wants for decades?  How about Louis C.K. doesn't whip his junk out and whack it in front of women he isn't in a relationship with?  How about Kevin Spacey doesn't try to rape a 14 year-old boy?  How about these and other men stop acting like they are entitled to have and take and do whatever they want because they have money or positions of power or the admiration of fans or because they've been treated their entire lives like they are special? 

And lastly, how about we stand by the victims and tell them that they were taken advantage of because we did nothing to empower them to come forward, that we really didn't care that this was going on because we just figured that's how Hollywood was and everyone was OK with it, that they are the ones who need to be counseled and protected, that they are the ones that need our sympathy, and that we are not going to stand idly by and allow future generations to be subjected to these types of actions by men who should know better but for some reason just don't care?

My wife's son was in torment when it could have been stopped by someone else at the time. Maybe you're right that nothing could have stopped Weinstein , as he was too powerful but something stopped him now. Too many people knew what was happening and did nothing. I am not blaming the victims but I am saying some of the people speaking out now while they are "safe" get no credit from me.

Put on the brakes, pal. What's a hell of a lot more annoying to a lot of us is that so much of this bullying, molestation, and assault was and has been going on for so damn long.

Just this morning spoke to a woman who'd been victimized by her own brother over 50 years ago who had never admitted it to anyone until she was in counseling a few years ago. She talked about the shame and guilt it engendered in her and how she kept pushing it back, burying it. It still haunts her. 

This is a far more common occurrence than you might like to think. Simply because something happened x-number of days, weeks, months or even decades ago doesn't mean that its effects somehow dissipate. Fear, guilt and pain do not have sell-by dates, and neither does heroism.

But nobody did speak out for that litttle boy, or for any of the other victims in question.

So why should the victims remain silent just because there might have been others who could've/ should've come to their aid decades ago?

Maybe there weren't others. Obviously your wife's little boy couldn't speak for himself then. Would you be pissed at him now if he had said something to you years later when he finally had the wherewithall to do so?

Do you honestly believe these women have anything to gain from coming forward, other than public ridicule, shaming, and having their motives questioned?  It's being turned around that somehow they're the attacker, that they're the ones persecuting these poor innocent men, and that they're the ones who are somehow going to benefit from bringing these things to the public.  

I really, really hope you stop posting in this thread, because each subsequent thing you write is more horrific than the last.