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Post by Prince Hal on Nov 29, 2017 16:48:47 GMT -5
Because you can't do it cheaper and more easily with a camera on a high altitude weather balloon. Not that I mean you can prove the earth is flat...just that this guy is a con artist or incredibly stupid. Those two things don't have to be mutually exclusive though...
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Nov 29, 2017 17:38:18 GMT -5
Genetic analysis of alleged Yeti remains purports to have solved the mystery of the Yeti. I have always been fascinated by cryptozoology (as well as speculative history), even though I am highly skeptical of both, but still a part of me keeps hoping one of these articles will have a different outcome. -M There was a neat paper published several years ago on that same subject (I still present it in my genetics class because it’s so cool). A British team contacted a multitude of people who claimed to have samples from assorted yetis, sasquatches and almatys and asked to sequence their DNA. (That was in response to the bogus claim of an American veterinarian who claimed to have sequenced sasquatch DNA and to have shown it was a hybrid of human and other DNA). As you’d expect, all the samples had originally belonged to a collection of diverse mammals, including bears, Himalayan antelopes, canids, horse, yak and human. I love cryptozoology as well... but just as for UFOs, I revel in the mystery while fully realizing that a lot more imagination than fact goes into any given observation!
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Post by Phil Maurice on Nov 29, 2017 20:51:32 GMT -5
I love cryptozoology as well... but just as for UFOs, I revel in the mystery while fully realizing that a lot more imagination than fact goes into any given observation! Yes, as fanciful and intriguing as many of these "mysteries" are, I'm generally pleased when the natural world behaves in a reliable, predictable, and repeatable fashion. Not a big fan of surprises.
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Post by Prince Hal on Nov 29, 2017 21:03:01 GMT -5
I love cryptozoology as well... but just as for UFOs, I revel in the mystery while fully realizing that a lot more imagination than fact goes into any given observation! Yes, as fanciful and intriguing as many of these "mysteries" are, I'm generally pleased when the natural world behaves in a reliable, predictable, and repeatable fashion. Not a big fan of surprises. I'm with both of you, but what I like is when there turn out to be logical solutions for myhtological creatures, like when science shows that the legend of the Cyclops might well have been based on the Greeks' deductions about elephant skulls and skeletons. (The skulls look like those of a giant one-eyed human, with the opening for the trunk resembling a giant eye socket.)
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Nov 30, 2017 6:35:16 GMT -5
That reminds me of the dragon skull said to be found in the City Hall of Klagenfurt in Austria. It’s apparently the skull of a woolly rhinoceros. But how were people in the XVIth century to know?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2017 11:39:42 GMT -5
I watch a lot of Bigfoot Documentaries on TV and I believe that Bigfoot exists and people been reporting it for decades to follow. I met a man back in the year 1997 that he seen Bigfoot in the Olympic Mountains about 90 yards from standing. He tried to get a snapshot of it and the Bigfoot got away when he just got his camera out. He was nervous and hiking with two other buddies and managed to walk back 5-6 miles to their car and never seen it again. They just saw it for 15 seconds or so and froze and forgot to take a picture of it. They estimated the height between 7 to 8 feet and weigh around 400 pounds or so.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Nov 30, 2017 13:25:09 GMT -5
I watch a lot of Bigfoot Documentaries on TV and I believe that Bigfoot exists and people been reporting it for decades to follow. I met a man back in the year 1997 that he seen Bigfoot in the Olympic Mountains about 90 yards from standing. He tried to get a snapshot of it and the Bigfoot got away when he just got his camera out. He was nervous and hiking with two other buddies and managed to walk back 5-6 miles to their car and never seen it again. They just saw it for 15 seconds or so and froze and forgot to take a picture of it. They estimated the height between 7 to 8 feet and weigh around 400 pounds or so. Alas, Avatar Man, I regret to say that Bigfoot does not exist. It's not just a matter of such a creature being shy and reclusive, which is the usual explanation for why there are no pictures of it and only a few unsubstantiated reports of sightings. It's also that if there were any kind of giant hominid currently living in America, we'd find the same kind of evidence as for every other animal, both living and extinct. We would find bigfoot corpses from time to time, we would find bigfoot bones, we would find bigfoot scat, we would have documented bigfoot tracks. We'd also, and this is the most important point, find ancestors of bigfoot in the fossil record... and we don't. We don't, even though we find all sorts of evidence for other creatures like the T. rex, the basilosaurus or the giant ground sloth, which have all been gone for millions of years. All the alleged samples taken from bigfoot turned out to be from other animals. Now if Bigfoot resembled a human, I could buy the idea that he's hiding somewhere out there in the deep forest; after all, any trace of his existence would be indistinguishable from that of regular folks. But even a chimpanzee bone would immediately be identified as non-human, so the bones of a 7 or 8 foot tall brute would immediately raise a flag. If Bigfoot lives, it is only in our imagination. I recommend the very entertaining book on cryptids, Abominable science!, for more details on the modern evolution of the bigfoot story. I was surprised to learn how recent it is!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2017 14:51:31 GMT -5
Roquefort Raider ... I haven't read that book and I've probably have to check out my library that book and frankly I've a hard time accepting the fact that Bigfoot doesn't exist. I have to keep an open mind on this subject and I do believe my friend and he has seen Bigfoot ... I just can't say Bigfoot isn't real or not. Sorry, that I've to say this ... RR!
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Dec 12, 2017 18:14:12 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2017 19:03:15 GMT -5
I have been fascinated by Polynesian things since I was a kid, between seeing something on Easter Island on a tv show (In Search Of, I believe) and my godfather bringing home some sculpted wood statues and outrigger model kits from Tahiti), I was always seeking more info about the region's history. Discovering Kon-Tiki by Thor Heyerdahl only furthered the fascination. The lac of any definitive narrative of the migrations was always frustrating to my curiosity, so I am curious to see what this study reveals. -M
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Dec 13, 2017 11:38:39 GMT -5
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Post by Prince Hal on Dec 13, 2017 12:03:55 GMT -5
I'm betting there's no sign of a crystal skull.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2017 15:35:48 GMT -5
Well it's the NY Post but they are reporting the Pentagon ran a program to investigate UFO sightings form 2007-2012 that cost $22 million and was initiated by D-Harry Reid of Nevada. The Post story is based on stories in Politico and the NY Times about the Advanced Aviation Threat Identification Program. I'd be curious to actually read those documents if made public. -M
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2017 10:46:09 GMT -5
Scientists have confirmed the controversial 1992 fossil find suggesting life in the form or microorganisms started on earth at least 3.5 billion years ago and the complexity of the development of these organisms suggest that the origins of life itself is likely at least 500 million years older than that, putting life on earth starting some 4 billion years ago, longer ago than most believed. The fossil find was controversial when it was uncovered and some denied they represented the remains of microorganisms and were just some kind of geological formation or anomaly, but some 25 years later they have been confirmed as actual fossil remnants. -M
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Post by Prince Hal on Dec 20, 2017 20:15:21 GMT -5
Scientists have confirmed the controversial 1992 fossil find suggesting life in the form or microorganisms started on earth at least 3.5 billion years ago and the complexity of the development of these organisms suggest that the origins of life itself is likely at least 500 million years older than that, putting life on earth starting some 4 billion years ago, longer ago than most believed. The fossil find was controversial when it was uncovered and some denied they represented the remains of microorganisms and were just some kind of geological formation or anomaly, but some 25 years later they have been confirmed as actual fossil remnants. -M This just in from Ken Ham at the Noah's Ark Museum in Kentucky: "Fake news!"
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