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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2017 14:40:56 GMT -5
I'm currently watching For Your Eyes Only and that song Sheena Easton is sure fire hit.
I just listen to this song three times today and she does it with an attitude that's makes this song a winner!
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Sept 21, 2017 15:53:22 GMT -5
Chuck Berry begs to differ. Ha! Well, he shoulda learned to play a fourth chord then!  As does Muddy Waters. Miles Davis just turns around and keeps playing that trumpet. All great artists, to be sure, but, in the case of Miles Davis, comparing him to the Beatles is doing both a bit of a disservice. They're from two totally different musical fields: one's an improvisational Jazz musician, while the other is a rock/pop band that specialised in 3-minute pop songs. Comparing the Beatles to Muddy Waters or Chuck Berry is easier because blues and early rock 'n' roll were in the Beatles' musical DNA. I dunno, it's all subjective, I guess, but as far as I can see, anyway that you want to slice it -- songwriting chops, musical innovation, melodic inventiveness, chart success, influence on other musicians, cultural impact -- the Beatles really trounce all comers. Ehh...I just tend to get snarky at the deification of The Beatles. Are they talented, important, etc.? Yeah. Are the musical be all/end all? Nope. I'm probably just grumpy. Ask Roquefort Raider. |
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Post by Confessor on Sept 21, 2017 17:36:52 GMT -5
Ha! Well, he shoulda learned to play a fourth chord then! All great artists, to be sure, but, in the case of Miles Davis, comparing him to the Beatles is doing both a bit of a disservice. They're from two totally different musical fields: one's an improvisational Jazz musician, while the other is a rock/pop band that specialised in 3-minute pop songs. Comparing the Beatles to Muddy Waters or Chuck Berry is easier because blues and early rock 'n' roll were in the Beatles' musical DNA. I dunno, it's all subjective, I guess, but as far as I can see, anyway that you want to slice it -- songwriting chops, musical innovation, melodic inventiveness, chart success, influence on other musicians, cultural impact -- the Beatles really trounce all comers. Ehh...I just tend to get snarky at the deification of The Beatles. Are they talented, important, etc.? Yeah. Are the musical be all/end all? Nope. I'm probably just grumpy. Ask Roquefort Raider. Ha! No probs. I quite agree that the Beatles aren't the musical be all and end all. They are important and very, very good, of course, but there are thousands of other artists or bands that are equally worth anyone's time. Obviously I'm a huge fan of the Fab Four, but my tastes are pretty broad and certainly encompass a lot of the same kinds of music that you like to listen to, as I'm sure you must've realised from our interactions in the Music Notes thread. For me, the Beatles are definitely tops (the toppermost of the poppermost!), but there's a world of other great music out there. Actually, while we're on the subject, the people I get really suspicious of are the ones who say that they resolutely don't like the Beatles at all. That smacks of being contrarian and nonconformist for the sake of it. Their songs encompass so many different musical styles and are so well written and sung, that I find it hard to believe that anyone wouldn't be able to find at least one Beatles song that they really liked. |
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Post by codystarbuck on Sept 22, 2017 0:17:45 GMT -5
Oh, I don't know; Wings was kind of second rate, compared to the Beatles. Everybody is kind of second rate compared to The Beatles. Wings were still one of the biggest selling groups of the '70s though, with their song "Mull of Kintyre" being the biggest selling single of the decade here in the UK. Given McCartney's success and the longevity of his fame (even by 1973), he was a good choice to write and record a Bond theme. My point is that Duran Duran was hardly more of a second rate pop band than Wings. Duran Duran was a massive hit worldwide; certainly on par with Wings, in terms of record sales and concert attendance. I like Live and Let Die, as a song; but, I also like View to a Kill as a song (far more than the movie, as a movie). Like I said, I prefer the jazzier bond to the pop/rock Bond songs, as it tended to fit the style and mood better. Of the pop songs, Live and Let Die works better than most of them; but, I also think For Your Eyes Only is an excellent song and fits that film well. It also provided one of the most memorable later title sequences, as Sheena Easton performs it within the title sequence, which was a first. The biggest music change that I felt was wrongheaded was when they tried to update the incidental music and the Bond theme, in the later Roger Moore films. For Your Eyes Only has a very disco-y style to the action sequences and it was outdated even then. I know they wanted to modernize; but, that classic guitar riff worked in any era. I really wanted to love Eric Serra's music, for Goldeneye, based on his work in Luc Besson's films (especially La Femme Nikita); but, I found it a bit uneven. It was still better than a lot of the later music; but, I had higher hopes than he delivered. |
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Post by String on Sept 22, 2017 14:15:57 GMT -5
All of them really, I can't think of any one Bond song that I hate.
That being said,my top three favorites are:
Nobody Does It Better
Goldfinger
Skyfall
A View to a Kill is a good song but I really liked the MTV video for it. You can tell that the band were having a lot of fun making that video and this song.
Live and Let Die is a great song but radio overplays it far too much, to the point now where it's lost most of it's quality to me. To make things worse, radio also plays the Guns' N' Roses version of the song which I've never really cared for at all.
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Post by Confessor on Sept 25, 2017 5:59:04 GMT -5
Everybody is kind of second rate compared to The Beatles. Wings were still one of the biggest selling groups of the '70s though, with their song "Mull of Kintyre" being the biggest selling single of the decade here in the UK. Given McCartney's success and the longevity of his fame (even by 1973), he was a good choice to write and record a Bond theme. My point is that Duran Duran was hardly more of a second rate pop band than Wings. Duran Duran was a massive hit worldwide; certainly on par with Wings, in terms of record sales and concert attendance. I like Live and Let Die, as a song; but, I also like View to a Kill as a song (far more than the movie, as a movie). I like both songs too. ...and both bands. I'm not sure what we're disagreeing about.  |
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Post by Icctrombone on Sept 25, 2017 9:24:02 GMT -5
I remember Duran,Duran being called the Fab Five during the 80's. My only critique is that they didn't have longevity.
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Post by badwolf on Sept 25, 2017 10:20:50 GMT -5
I remember Duran,Duran being called the Fab Five during the 80's. My only critique is that they didn't have longevity. They've lasted a lot longer than the Beatles... |
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Post by Icctrombone on Sept 25, 2017 10:27:46 GMT -5
I remember Duran,Duran being called the Fab Five during the 80's. My only critique is that they didn't have longevity. They've lasted a lot longer than the Beatles... Maybe , but the Beatles' Impact is much more lasting, of course. |
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Post by Luis H. Reina on Nov 1, 2017 8:58:00 GMT -5
The ski chase from On Her Majesty's Secret Service, I discovered this movie around 1980 and thought this scene and it's music were beyond cool, it made me fall in love with skiing.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2017 18:15:54 GMT -5
Luis H. Reina ... Thanks for sharing that music - I just played that music a week ago and it's a favorite of mine. I know exactly how you feel about it and I don't ski at all.
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Post by Jeddak on Nov 1, 2017 21:32:03 GMT -5
I love the way the theme songs, at least in the earlier films, were used in action scenes as well. Like for instance
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Post by Luis H. Reina on Nov 2, 2017 9:10:53 GMT -5
Luis H. Reina ... Thanks for sharing that music - I just played that music a week ago and it's a favorite of mine. I know exactly how you feel about it and I don't ski at all. Just after that scene, Bond arrives at the village, closely pursued by Blofeld and his posse and there is a very non-Bond scene, in which he's uncharacteristically vulnerable and afraid, sitting on a bench while the whole town is bubbling in a typical Tyrolese Christmas festivity, when suddenly his fiancé, Tracy (Diana Rigg) arrives, "saving" him. In my late teens, after a two year stint in the Colombian Army, I had the opportunity of living in Germany for a year (1985-1986) and spent a weekend in Kitzbühel (Austria) enjoying a Christmas festival which was uncannily similar to the movie, an experience that left a mark on me. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2017 11:45:34 GMT -5
Luis H. Reina ... Thanks for sharing that music - I just played that music a week ago and it's a favorite of mine. I know exactly how you feel about it and I don't ski at all. Just after that scene, Bond arrives at the village, closely pursued by Blofeld and his posse and there is a very non-Bond scene, in which he's uncharacteristically vulnerable and afraid, sitting on a bench while the whole town is bubbling in a typical Tyrolese Christmas festivity, when suddenly his fiancé, Tracy (Diana Rigg) arrives, "saving" him. In my late teens, after a two year stint in the Colombian Army, I had the opportunity of living in Germany for a year (1985-1986) and spent a weekend in Kitzbühel (Austria) enjoying a Christmas festival which was uncannily similar to the movie, an experience that left a mark on me. I was in Kitzbühel in the Summer of 1994 spending three days sightseeing spending equal time hiking and enjoying the picturesque settings in all. I just loved that scene of Diana Rigg and George Lazenby and it's one of my favorites because it wasn't a Bond Scene at all. I'm glad that scene left you a mark on you and thanks for sharing it. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2017 16:28:21 GMT -5
I love the way the theme songs, at least in the earlier films, were used in action scenes as well. Like for instance It’s always great when they mix the theme into the score. John Barry did it best. |
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