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Post by Jeddak on Sept 18, 2017 20:47:37 GMT -5
No love for The World is Not Enough? That's one of my favorites, along with You Only Live Twice and OHMSS.
But really I like them all. Except for Moonraker and that Madonna thing.
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Post by batusi on Sept 18, 2017 22:04:33 GMT -5
Live and let Die
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Post by berkley on Sept 18, 2017 22:27:57 GMT -5
I think these four are classics:
Goldfinger You Only Live Twice Live and Let Die Nobody Does it Better
and I'd give honourable mentions to:
Thunderball From Russia with Love, which, though not as memorable as those other four, are miles ahead of any of the others (IMO).
None of the rest of them stands out much to me. Some are better than others, but none of them are anything special.
But I have to mention Burt Bacharach's music for Casino Royale which to me is one of the all-time greatest film scores.
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Post by codystarbuck on Sept 18, 2017 22:33:23 GMT -5
Count me in for Man With The Golden Gun. Lulu sings the hell out of that. I'm partial to Louis Armstrong, with "We Have All of the Time in the World," from OHMSS.
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Post by berkley on Sept 18, 2017 23:43:48 GMT -5
Count me in for Man With The Golden Gun. Lulu sings the hell out of that. I just listened to that one and almost added it to my honourable mentions but it doesn't quite get there, for me: starts off well, but loses something along the way. Lulu does a great job singing it, though. To a lesser degree I have a similar feeling about the one Gladys Knight sang, though it isn't as good a song as Golden Gun. But she has such a great voice she almost makes this ordinary composition into something much better than it should be. The only really effective part of the song itself is due to the incorporation of the Bond theme here and there, which fools you into thinking it's going to be good. I think they really took a wrong turn when they started going to trendy at the time but (IMO) 2nd rate pop bands like (apologies to their fans) Aha and Duran Duran. It's one thing to ask Paul McCartney to compose your theme song but it's another thing entirely to ask whoever happens to be hot on the charts at the moment.
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Post by badwolf on Sept 19, 2017 9:43:54 GMT -5
"Live and Let Die" by McCartney/Wings "Another Way to Die" by Jack White & Alicia Keys "The World is Not Enough" by Garbage "For Your Eyes Only" by Blondie (rejected)
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Post by Phil Maurice on Sept 19, 2017 14:26:08 GMT -5
Count me in for Man With The Golden Gun. Lulu sings the hell out of that. I just listened to that one and almost added it to my honourable mentions but it doesn't quite get there, for me: starts off well, but loses something along the way. Lulu does a great job singing it, though. Alice Cooper submitted a version of "The Man with the Golden Gun" to the Bond producers, but states that he missed a deadline and that they went with Lulu instead. It's possible they simply preferred her take. I think Cooper's song is superior, but I'm not much of a Lulu fan so YMMV. Cooper's version was released on his Muscle of Love album. I can't link to youtube at work, but you can find it there.
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Post by EdoBosnar on Sept 19, 2017 17:16:46 GMT -5
"Under the Mango Tree" from Dr. No. In fact, just the entire soundtrack to Dr. No, I love all those tunes: "Kingston Calypso," "Jump Up," "Jamaican Jazz," "Twisting with James" ...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2017 18:07:52 GMT -5
"Under the Mango Tree" from Dr. No. In fact, just the entire soundtrack to Dr. No, I love all those tunes: "Kingston Calypso," "Jump Up," "Jamaican Jazz," "Twisting with James" ... They had some nice selections in this movie and I loved the "Under the Mango Tree" very much and thanks for bringing it up!
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Post by berkley on Sept 20, 2017 4:22:15 GMT -5
I just listened to that one and almost added it to my honourable mentions but it doesn't quite get there, for me: starts off well, but loses something along the way. Lulu does a great job singing it, though. Alice Cooper submitted a version of "The Man with the Golden Gun" to the Bond producers, but states that he missed a deadline and that they went with Lulu instead. It's possible they simply preferred her take. I think Cooper's song is superior, but I'm not much of a Lulu fan so YMMV. Cooper's version was released on his Muscle of Love album. I can't link to youtube at work, but you can find it there. I'll have to listen to the two of them again to make sure, but I believe Alice Cooper's was a completely different song, written by him and the band. I've always liked it, along with the album it appeared on, Muscle of Love. I was a huge Alice fan as a kid and still like all that stuff today, up to and including his first "solo" album, Welcome to My Nightmare. But the subject of rejected Bond songs is one I'm glad came up: looking at the wiki entry, there's a much longer list than I'd expected. I knew about the Alice Cooper one but didn't realise that Radiohead, for example, had one as well.
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Post by codystarbuck on Sept 20, 2017 20:01:31 GMT -5
Count me in for Man With The Golden Gun. Lulu sings the hell out of that. I just listened to that one and almost added it to my honourable mentions but it doesn't quite get there, for me: starts off well, but loses something along the way. Lulu does a great job singing it, though. To a lesser degree I have a similar feeling about the one Gladys Knight sang, though it isn't as good a song as Golden Gun. But she has such a great voice she almost makes this ordinary composition into something much better than it should be. The only really effective part of the song itself is due to the incorporation of the Bond theme here and there, which fools you into thinking it's going to be good. I think they really took a wrong turn when they started going to trendy at the time but (IMO) 2nd rate pop bands like (apologies to their fans) Aha and Duran Duran. It's one thing to ask Paul McCartney to compose your theme song but it's another thing entirely to ask whoever happens to be hot on the charts at the moment. Oh, I don't know; Wings was kind of second rate, compared to the Beatles. really, I think it is down to the individual singer (s) and the song. I'm partial to the older stuff, as it tended to be arranged better and the singers had better voices. Also, I liked the jazzy music with the spy films of the era. Modern rock music never really worked well, with Bond, for me. That said, I do like View to a Kill, For Your Eyes Only and Living Daylights. They are fine pop songs and they fit their title sequences well. I don't care for most of the ones from the Brosnan era (Goldeneye was pretty good and the one from Garbage wasn't bad). I don't care for the Craig era ones at all. Then again, I'm old and pretty much tapped out to pop music by the end of the 90s. Your mileage may vary.
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Post by Confessor on Sept 21, 2017 11:50:57 GMT -5
Oh, I don't know; Wings was kind of second rate, compared to the Beatles. Everybody is kind of second rate compared to The Beatles. Wings were still one of the biggest selling groups of the '70s though, with their song "Mull of Kintyre" being the biggest selling single of the decade here in the UK. Given McCartney's success and the longevity of his fame (even by 1973), he was a good choice to write and record a Bond theme.
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Post by berkley on Sept 21, 2017 12:31:03 GMT -5
Oh, I don't know; Wings was kind of second rate, compared to the Beatles. Everybody is kind of second rate compared to The Beatles. Wings were still one of the biggest selling groups of the '70s though, with their song "Mull of Kintyre" being the biggest selling single of the decade here in the UK. Given McCartney's success and the longevity of his fame (even by 1973), he was a good choice to write and record a Bond theme. Yes, and the other thing is that McCartney is a world-class songwriter. His work with Wings was less consistent but the best of it would IMO not have been too out of place on a Beatles album - and I'd include Live and Let Die amongst the best of his post-Beatles work.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Sept 21, 2017 12:47:36 GMT -5
Oh, I don't know; Wings was kind of second rate, compared to the Beatles. Everybody is kind of second rate compared to The Beatles. Wings were still one of the biggest selling groups of the '70s though, with their song "Mull of Kintyre" being the biggest selling single of the decade here in the UK. Given McCartney's success and the longevity of his fame (even by 1973), he was a good choice to write and record a Bond theme. Chuck Berry begs to differ. As does Muddy Waters. Miles Davis just turns around and keeps playing that trumpet.
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Post by Confessor on Sept 21, 2017 14:39:14 GMT -5
Chuck Berry begs to differ. Ha! Well, he shoulda learned to play a fourth chord then! As does Muddy Waters. Miles Davis just turns around and keeps playing that trumpet. All great artists, to be sure, but, in the case of Miles Davis, comparing him to the Beatles is doing both a bit of a disservice. They're from two totally different musical fields: one's an improvisational Jazz musician, while the other is a rock/pop band that specialised in 3-minute pop songs. Comparing the Beatles to Muddy Waters or Chuck Berry is easier because blues and early rock 'n' roll were in the Beatles' musical DNA. I dunno, it's all subjective, I guess, but as far as I can see, anyway that you want to slice it -- songwriting chops, musical innovation, melodic inventiveness, chart success, influence on other musicians, cultural impact -- the Beatles really trounce all comers.
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