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Post by BigPapaJoe on Jul 27, 2017 1:23:28 GMT -5
I was watching some Martrix material the other day. Also recently saw the new trailer for the upcoming Ready Player One film adaption. I've been thinking to myself what is it going to be like in 30 years or so with virtual reality becoming more and more of a staple within our livelihood? I used to watch Star Trek The Next Generation and I always remember the holodeck where people would essentially enter a holographic world that looks real. They could shape the world to whatever fantasy they wanted. Usually I wondered why a greater amount of society wasn't just spending most of their time within a holodeck. If we had that type of technology now, or anything close to it I could see a lot of people just spending most of their time in a fantasy world. I guess we already have that to a degree today with the internet. Not trying to take some kind of moral high ground here with what's right and wrong. Just wanted to hear people's opinion's about it. I hope to be here in 30 years to see it for myself.
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Post by bor on Jul 27, 2017 2:22:31 GMT -5
I was watching some Martrix material the other day. Also recently saw the new trailer for the upcoming Ready Player One film adaption. I've been thinking to myself what is it going to be like in 30 years or so with virtual reality becoming more and more of a staple within our livelihood? I used to watch Star Trek The Next Generation and I always remember the holodeck where people would essentially enter a holographic world that looks real. They could shape the world to whatever fantasy they wanted. Usually I wondered why a greater amount of society wasn't just spending most of their time within a holodeck. If we had that type of technology now, or anything close to it I could see a lot of people just spending most of their time in a fantasy world. I guess we already have that to a degree today with the internet. Not trying to take some kind of moral high ground here with what's right and wrong. Just wanted to hear people's opinion's about it. I hope to be here in 30 years to see it for myself. I am somewhat sceptic. I actually just finished "Ready player one" on a recent trip. It was part of a loot crate from a couple of years ago and I thought I would read it since I had some time to kill on train trips these last couple of weeks. The book presents some of the things that could be great about a large scale VR world, it also presents quite a lot of things that would be terrible about it.
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Post by LovesGilKane on Jul 27, 2017 2:31:13 GMT -5
i think it will provide significant advances in medicine, particularly surgery.
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Post by badwolf on Jul 27, 2017 17:45:25 GMT -5
I'm looking forward to it. It's one of the few reasons I wish I was born later.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Jul 27, 2017 20:19:56 GMT -5
As a complement of actual reality, it seems to have a lot of potential. As a replacement for actual reality, it could be a dangerous distraction.
I'm glad to see kids in karate class learning how to actually move, learning that fighting can be fun but can hurt, and learning to respect one's opponent. I'm not sure they'd get that from a daily dose of Bruce Lee's Ultimate Knockout Challenge 3D. In fact, seeing the way my son and his online buddies interact when playing war games, I know they don't.
I could see virtual reality helping people learn new skills and develop new abilities. I could also see it turn them into couch potatoes who don't need the outdoors anymore to climb a mountain or play sports.
So it's like any new technology: it has the potential to do great things, and the potential to do great harm.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2017 21:20:32 GMT -5
I completely (100 %) agree with you Roquefort Raider and that's one of things that I'm more scared of it than anything else.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2017 21:41:39 GMT -5
As a replacement for actual reality, it could be a dangerous distraction. I could also see it turn them into couch potatoes who don't need the outdoors anymore to climb a mountain or play sports. So it's like any new technology: it has the potential to do great things, and the potential to do great harm. I see it leading to further coarsening of society. People "live" thru their cell phones already. People don't know how to interact politely with face to face interaction anymore. If things don't go their way in actual reality then they will spend more & more time in virtual reality.
I think it will damage real live human interactions even more.
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Post by berkley on Jul 27, 2017 21:54:17 GMT -5
I know virtually nothing about it.
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Post by BigPapaJoe on Jul 28, 2017 7:36:26 GMT -5
As a replacement for actual reality, it could be a dangerous distraction. I could also see it turn them into couch potatoes who don't need the outdoors anymore to climb a mountain or play sports. So it's like any new technology: it has the potential to do great things, and the potential to do great harm. I see it leading to further coarsening of society. People "live" thru their cell phones already. People don't know how to interact politely with face to face interaction anymore. If things don't go their way in actual reality then they will spend more & more time in virtual reality.
I think it will damage real live human interactions even more.
I wonder if the technology were to get so advanced to the point where a plethora of everyday people could essentially live a second life in a virtual world, would federal laws be implemented to limit use. Or would free reign prevail in capitalistic terms? "You keep paying for the service you can live in your fake world as much as you like". I can already see birthrates dropping. Why have a potentially nagging girlfriend/wife when you can have a submissive idealized woman that looks like Jessica Alba and feels just as real? Oh and if you get bored, just change the girl.
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Jul 28, 2017 8:13:27 GMT -5
I have no interest in it. The day I swap a controller for a headpiece I am done with new video games. When it comes to entertainment I think VR has more cons than pros.
But as RR said it could also have practical applications. In those, I guess that could be beneficial. But you aren't going to have one or the other once the technology reaches it's peak. Because we are already at the cusp of VR video games. Give someone a holodeck or a VR video game in the vein of eXistenZ, and there could easily be more people in a false reality most of their lives, than actual reality.
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Post by BigPapaJoe on Jul 28, 2017 11:34:48 GMT -5
I have no interest in it. The day I swap a controller for a headpiece I am done with new video games. When it comes to entertainment I think VR has more cons than pros. But as RR said it could also have practical applications. In those, I guess that could be beneficial. But you aren't going to have one or the other once the technology reaches it's peak. Because we are already at the cusp of VR video games. Give someone a holodeck or a VR video game in the vein of eXistenZ, and there could easily be more people in a false reality most of their lives, than actual reality. I think I may feel the same way as far as your initial statement is concerned. I've always been a game system/controller person. Never really had any interest playing PC games. The last couple of years or so of all this VR headset talk never really got me excited to try the technology. I guess I was more interested in what the technology could do for society than actually being hyped up to try it myself. Who knows though, in 10 or 15 years essentially everyone might have one for some kind of use which would be deemed "practical".
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Jul 28, 2017 12:45:37 GMT -5
One thing that amused me for a considerable time now is how goofy people wearing VR helmets look, and how the industry never, ever mentions it. Big Cyclops-like visor that makes one look like a hyperthyroidic owl, groping hands that chase after imaginary butterflies... it's like the absolute anti-cool!
I'm sure one day the visor will be reduced to the size of normal glasses and then everybody will make fun of the old clunky helmets, saying "oh, of course, I hated the way they looked from day one!"
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Post by lobsterjohnson on Jul 28, 2017 13:50:33 GMT -5
One thing that amused me for a considerable time now is how goofy people wearing VR helmets look, and how the industry never, ever mentions it. Big Cyclops-like visor that makes one look like a hyperthyroidic owl, groping hands that chase after imaginary butterflies... it's like the absolute anti-cool! I'm sure one day the visor will be reduced to the size of normal glasses and then everybody will make fun of the old clunky helmets, saying "oh, of course, I hated the way they looked from day one!" I think it's a bit odd when advertisements for VR headsets and games just show people wearing the headsets. They do look kind of silly, and I'd be much more interested in an ad that showed what the game was like anyway.
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