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Post by Jesse on Jul 19, 2017 10:57:10 GMT -5
Has anyone else been reading this run? I picked it up during Superior and for the most part am really enjoying it. I have since went back and read "Dying Wish" and am currently caught up with "Clone Conspiracy". I like how it shakes up Peter's status quo in interesting ways but is still able to tell entertaining stories. Sometimes major directional twists for characters feel shoehorned in and don't really work but I haven't gotten that feeling from this series at all. I'm curious to see where this series goes after Secret Empire. Given that they've recently announced a new "Peter Parker: The Spectacular Spider-Man" ongoing title by another author I'm wondering if this series is winding down.
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Post by String on Jul 19, 2017 12:23:47 GMT -5
I have yet to read Superior Spider-Man though I've heard that it is very good. (I think the first two volumes are available on comixology unlimited).
I picked the title back up with the Spider-Verse event and have been reading it ever since. I think Slott has a very good handle on Peter's character and behaviour, taking him into unfamiliar settings and situations and seeing how he reacts and handles them. Thus, making him a CEO of a global corporation seems like the farthest thing from the usual Parker luck but it's the questions of what does Peter do with that power and authority that makes this so interesting.
I thought Clone Conspiracy was one of the best events Marvel has done in quite some time. The moral questioning, the action, the remorse, the reveals, all of it was engaging and entertaining.
I'm not sure if ASM is winding down but I do know that the new PP: Spectacular book is partially meant for those fans who may be weary of global Peter and want to see him back on the more familial grounds of NYC and fighting local crime. The first issue by Chip Zdarsky and Andy Kubert was quite good though.
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Post by Jesse on Jul 19, 2017 13:05:05 GMT -5
While I don't care for the direction of Ben Reilly when they brought him back I still really enjoyed Clone Conspiracy. As for Parker Industries it reminds me of an episode of the 90's FOX animated series where an alternate Peter was a well liked CEO and wore the silver Spider-Man armor.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jul 19, 2017 18:08:31 GMT -5
I enjoyed the Superior storyline, but I haven't really read anything since... Peter Parker-as-Tony-Stark really doesn't appeal to me at all, and I never liked the clone stuff.
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Post by Spike-X on Jul 19, 2017 18:59:22 GMT -5
I really enjoyed Slott's run up until the end of Superior which, despite the hate it got at the time, was a fantastic story. I think he went off the boil a bit after that, but I might give it another look and see what I think.
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Post by Randle-El on Jul 19, 2017 21:49:33 GMT -5
I've generally been enjoying Slott's run on Spidey. I read up until the end of the Superior in floppies, then I started getting Marvel Unlimited so have been keeping up with it there (I'm a bit behind on the current series). I think Slott does a good job of keeping things interesting by trying new things while respecting the history. I thought he had a good idea with revisiting the notion of Peter being a science prodigy, and having him get a real job that would be appropriate for someone who was supposedly such a scientific genius (instead of peddling photos to the Bugle). Although from the looks of things, it looks like Slott's time on Spidey may be winding down, and the current arc looks to a big reset to the traditional status quo.
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Post by hondobrode on Jul 20, 2017 0:48:49 GMT -5
I've picked up the complete runs of both Spider-Verse and Superior based on the praise I've heard but haven't read either yet.
Seriously, that's why I'm way cutting back on my purchases cause I've got so many I haven't read yet, which is crazy.
Anyway, they both sounds really good to me.
It feels weird have Peter be the CEO of Parker Industries, and yet, it kind of makes sense with him being a scientific genius and all. I always thought he could do better than peddle photos.
As far as the clone thing, that's actually one of the Spidey things I like the best. Great concept despite being beaten to death originally.
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Post by Spike-X on Jul 20, 2017 4:01:05 GMT -5
I thought he had a good idea with revisiting the notion of Peter being a science prodigy, and having him get a real job that would be appropriate for someone who was supposedly such a scientific genius (instead of peddling photos to the Bugle). I thought that made so much sense. Peter Parker is basically a scientific genius - he invented his web fluid at age sixteen, for goodness' sake! - why not have him make a decent living doing that, instead of eating J. Jonah Jameson's s*** sandwiches? |
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Post by Paste Pot Paul on Jul 21, 2017 20:27:21 GMT -5
One of the few gripes I have with Spidey in the past couple years is the Parker Industries idea. I have no real issue with Pete getting compensation for his inventions etc, however having P.I. suddenly be THE world leader in "webware", phone tech etc when only months ago it would be Stark Tech ruling the world, well this bends the believability well past breaking point.
While creating an OS bigger and better than Windows or the Mac OS, Peter Parker also created the worlds most popular phone, a range of armored suits, and a fleet of Spider-Mobiles ... all in a period of weeks/months.
To be fair this criticism is aimed at Iron Man books too over more years than I care to count.
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Post by Randle-El on Jul 21, 2017 21:42:06 GMT -5
One of the few gripes I have with Spidey in the past couple years is the Parker Industries idea. I have no real issue with Pete getting compensation for his inventions etc, however having P.I. suddenly be THE world leader in "webware", phone tech etc when only months ago it would be Stark Tech ruling the world, well this bends the believability well past breaking point. While creating an OS bigger and better than Windows or the Mac OS, Peter Parker also created the worlds most popular phone, a range of armored suits, and a fleet of Spider-Mobiles ... all in a period of weeks/months. To be fair this criticism is aimed at Iron Man books too over more years than I care to count. As far as what is feasible from a technological, scientific, or business standpoint -- this doesn't bother me one bit. Let's be honest, when it comes to storytelling in superhero, sci-fi, and other similar genres, this happens all the time. People come up with miraculous devices that save the day, the hacker manages to break the encryption just in time, etc. I choose to look at this from a more literary lens. Dan Slott is basically reversing all the years of Parker luck with his run. For years, Peter was always scraping by, trying to pay bills while fighting crime, looking after Aunt May, while having bad things happen to him all the time. I think Slott is doing something very clever by removing this as a plot device, and instead having everything going great for Peter, while figuring out new ways to introduce conflict into his stories. I think what makes this great is that we all know things will get reset eventually -- Peter will go back to being down on his luck, being serially unemployed, and getting dumped on by the world. We know Spidey will ultimately return to what makes him Spidey at his core, but for the time being it's fun to see how far out there Dan Slott can take the character. |
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Post by Confessor on Jul 23, 2017 7:35:54 GMT -5
I haven't truly enjoyed Spider-Man comics in the way that I used to since the whole One More Day/Brand New Day clusterf**k, back in 2007. However, I continued to buy Amazing Spider-Man until early-to-mid 2016. The initially year or two of post-OMD stories were, for the most part, really lacklustre. Slott's run was a definite improvement, but a lingering bad taste from OMD and the impact (read "character regression") that it had on much of Spidey's supporting cast, really stuck in my craw. The Superior Spider-Man run was, without doubt, the highlight of Slott's run for me. It was something fresh and is the only part of his run that I would recommend without hesitation. However, when a super-villain living as Spider-Man is more exciting and interesting to read about than Peter Parker in the role, you know that there's a serious problem with the book. I finally dropped all of the Spidey books shortly after Superior Spider-Man ended, because by making Peter the playboy CEO of Parker Industries, I felt that Slott had taken the character much too far away from his roots and what it is that I enjoy about him. If I want to read about Tony Stark, I'll buy Iron Man comics, not Spider-Man ones. So yeah, Superior Spider-Man is well worth checking out, but the rest of Slott's run ranges from averagely entertaining to decidedly "yuck!". I thought he had a good idea with revisiting the notion of Peter being a science prodigy, and having him get a real job that would be appropriate for someone who was supposedly such a scientific genius (instead of peddling photos to the Bugle). I thought that made so much sense. Peter Parker is basically a scientific genius - he invented his web fluid at age sixteen, for goodness' sake! - why not have him make a decent living doing that, instead of eating J. Jonah Jameson's s*** sandwiches? While I applaud Slott's decision to accentuate Peter's scientific abilities, I felt that the introduction of Parker Industries, with Peter as the millionaire, globe-trotting CEO was a step too far. I'm not arguing that it might be a "realistic" development, given Peter's genius level scientific abilities, but it unfortunately took the character so far away from his core that, for me, it was the final straw which made me drop Amazing Spider-Man after being a regular or semi-regular reader for 35 odd years. It essentially turned Peter Parker into Tony Stark and I have less than no interest in that. |
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Post by The Cheat on Jul 23, 2017 14:53:38 GMT -5
I thought that made so much sense. Peter Parker is basically a scientific genius - he invented his web fluid at age sixteen, for goodness' sake! - why not have him make a decent living doing that, instead of eating J. Jonah Jameson's s*** sandwiches? Except it doesn't showcase his genius at all, everything his company sells was invented by someone else (primarily Dr. Octopus). |
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Post by String on Jul 23, 2017 20:03:49 GMT -5
I haven't truly enjoyed Spider-Man comics in the way that I used to since the whole One More Day/Brand New Day clusterf**k, back in 2007. However, I continued to buy Amazing Spider-Man until early-to-mid 2016. The initially year or two of post-OMD stories were, for the most part, really lacklustre. Slott's run was a definite improvement, but a lingering bad taste from OMD and the impact (read "character regression") that it had on much of Spidey's supporting cast, really stuck in my craw. The Superior Spider-Man run was, without doubt, the highlight of Slott's run for me. It was something fresh and is the only part of his run that I would recommend without hesitation. However, when a super-villain living as Spider-Man is more exciting and interesting to read about than Peter Parker in the role, you know that there's a serious problem with the book. I finally dropped all of the Spidey books shortly after Superior Spider-Man ended, because by making Peter the playboy CEO of Parker Industries, I felt that Slott had taken the character much too far away from his roots and what it is that I enjoy about him. If I want to read about Tony Stark, I'll buy Iron Man comics, not Spider-Man ones. So yeah, Superior Spider-Man is well worth checking out, but the rest of Slott's run ranges from averagely entertaining to decidedly "yuck!". I thought that made so much sense. Peter Parker is basically a scientific genius - he invented his web fluid at age sixteen, for goodness' sake! - why not have him make a decent living doing that, instead of eating J. Jonah Jameson's s*** sandwiches? While I applaud Slott's decision to accentuate Peter's scientific abilities, I felt that the introduction of Parker Industries, with Peter as the millionaire, globe-trotting CEO was a step too far. I'm not arguing that it might be a "realistic" development, given Peter's genius level scientific abilities, but it unfortunately took the character so far away from his core that, for me, it was the final straw which made me drop Amazing Spider-Man after being a regular or semi-regular reader for 35 odd years. It essentially turned Peter Parker into Tony Stark and I have less than no interest in that. Yet Slott is building dramatic conflict by the fact that Peter isn't Tony Stark. Yes, he may be the head of his own global corporation but unlike Tony, Peter hasn't been raised nor trained to be an eventual CEO. He lacks experience and some essential knowledge in properly running such an enterprise. He's still playing by his own principles but by doing so, he's also undermining the public perception and financial foundations of a company that, in essence, he merely inherited. |
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Post by Spike-X on Jul 23, 2017 20:30:41 GMT -5
I thought that made so much sense. Peter Parker is basically a scientific genius - he invented his web fluid at age sixteen, for goodness' sake! - why not have him make a decent living doing that, instead of eating J. Jonah Jameson's s*** sandwiches? While I applaud Slott's decision to accentuate Peter's scientific abilities, I felt that the introduction of Parker Industries, with Peter as the millionaire, globe-trotting CEO was a step too far. I'm not arguing that it might be a "realistic" development, given Peter's genius level scientific abilities, but it unfortunately took the character so far away from his core that, for me, it was the final straw which made me drop Amazing Spider-Man after being a regular or semi-regular reader for 35 odd years. It essentially turned Peter Parker into Tony Stark and I have less than no interest in that. Yeah, I'm not loving that either. I mean specifically when he started working for Max Whatsisname at that place he used to work at doing science things. That was cool. |
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Post by Spike-X on Jul 23, 2017 20:31:34 GMT -5
I thought that made so much sense. Peter Parker is basically a scientific genius - he invented his web fluid at age sixteen, for goodness' sake! - why not have him make a decent living doing that, instead of eating J. Jonah Jameson's s*** sandwiches? Except it doesn't showcase his genius at all, everything his company sells was invented by someone else (primarily Dr. Octopus). See above. |
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