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Post by Ish Kabbible on May 3, 2014 16:33:31 GMT -5
Not sure if it was answered (if so, I missed it,) but I believe bass player Clit McToris was Noel Redding. Hey,thanks for the info Cherokee.I don't think you mentioned it on the original forum.Now that I think of it ,I can believe it because some of the bass lines sound similar to what I heard on Hendrix's Electric Ladyland album. This Clit McToris bassist ID has had me wondering for over 40 years and made all the copy/pasting to this board well woth it.Again,thanks a million
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Post by Miss Fantastic on May 3, 2014 16:48:53 GMT -5
Mahavishnu Orchestra-Jazz/Fusion was a favorite genre of mine late 60s thru the 70s and the Mahavishnu Orchestra was my introduction to it.Guitarist John McLaughlin played Hendrix -inspired on a double neck (6 and 12 string) trading off riffs with violinist Jerry Goodman. Billy Cobham master percussionist, Jan Hammer and his pioneering moog synthesizer, and Rick Laird on bass made up the original lineup. Their 2 studio albums 1971's Inner Mounting Flames and 1973's Birds of Fire are must-owns for this brand of music and they were quite successful commercially as well. Internal dissention broke the band up but McLaughlin continued adding replacements including Jean-Luc Ponty. No mention of John McLaughlin should ever, EVER go without the phenomenal version of "The Wish" he did for the Remember Shakti concert in 1999...IMO, far more superior to the original (although, as with nearly all of McLaughlin's work, that's certainly not chopped liver itself), and among some of the best damn minutes of guitar noodling you'll hear from anyone.
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Post by Cherokee Jack on May 3, 2014 18:46:42 GMT -5
Not sure if it was answered (if so, I missed it,) but I believe bass player Clit McToris was Noel Redding. Hey,thanks for the info Cherokee.I don't think you mentioned it on the original forum.Now that I think of it ,I can believe it because some of the bass lines sound similar to what I heard on Hendrix's Electric Ladyland album. This Clit McToris bassist ID has had me wondering for over 40 years and made all the copy/pasting to this board well woth it.Again,thanks a million Wikipedia confirms this (and we all know they're never wrong ----- en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kapt._Kopter_and_the_(Fabulous)_Twirly_Birds
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Post by Cherokee Jack on May 3, 2014 18:47:56 GMT -5
Saw Roger McGuinn at the Stoughton Opera House last nite.
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Post by Ish Kabbible on May 3, 2014 19:28:47 GMT -5
Roger McGuinn and the Byrds are so under-appreciated for that jingle-jangle sound they popularized in the mid 60s which remains to this day Here's a weird one. I saw Judy Collins in my neighborhood Barnes and Nobles.She's on a book tour and had a one hour interview and question and answer session.
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Post by DubipR on May 3, 2014 21:54:46 GMT -5
One of my favorite hidden gems is Honey Ltd. This all girls band from the late 1960s was produced by Lee Hazelwood under his LHI Records. The great company Light In the Attic Records has put out their unproduced album and other LHI recordings. Sisters Alexandra and Joan Silwin and their college friends Laura Polkinghorne and Marsha Tremmer sang at Wayne State University. They moved out to Los Angeles and Lee signed them immediately. Truly wonderful harmonies. I think they could've had a modest career instead of becoming a cult favorite.
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Post by Ish Kabbible on May 4, 2014 0:42:19 GMT -5
And I'm back after a few months with a new batch,a little bit shortened, of obscure,forgotten,becoming forgotten,need to be forgotten or criminally under-rated musical performers. Still plowing thru the Ms
Missing Persons-Ex Playboy bunny Dale Consolvi marries ex Frank Zappa drummer Terry Bozzio and they give birth to a new wave band based in Los Angeles The timing was perfect because their music video that cost $50 to make got constant airplay on the just launched MTV."Words/Destination Unknown and Walking in L.A. where pleasingly quirky songs.Dale sang and hiccupped constantly,put a lot of pink dye in her hair and was fond of plexiglass bras That was good enough for one semi-hit album,1982's Missing Persons. And then came the expected crash and divorce Mitchell,Joni-A strong case can be built for Joni being one of the most inportant late 60s female artists.She was always uncompromising and innovative Her music evolved from folk to pop to jazz to avant garde and even world music.Her 1969 album Clouds had the classics Both Sides Now and Chelsea Morning. 1970's Ladies of the Canyon had Woodstock,Big Yellow Taxi and The Circle Game..1971's Blue album was the quintessential singer/songwriter confessional. And then she changed gears and went jazzy for 72's For The Roses. 1974's Court and Spark was the peak of her commercial success containing Free Man In Paris, Raised On Robbery and Help Me.The same year saw the double live album Miles of Ailes-a great summation of her work.Her next 2 albums veered even more so into smooth jazz territory.After 1976 I stopped following her work but I see she began to work with jazz greats like Herbie Hancock and Charles Mingus.She has released 17 albums with 2007 being her last.She produced all her own albums and is currently retired. Moby-Seems to be a controversial figure amongst techno fans and you'd have to explain why to me.Did he commercialize it? Was he too well known amongst all the anonymous bands. Anyway His 1992 debut had the hit Go along with Drop A Beat and Next Is The E.I also picked up 1995's Everything Is Wrong and 1999's Play Moby Grape-It's all about their debut 1967 self titled album.A classic distillation of the Summer Of Love in San Francisco without getting self indulgent No unfocused jams or nonsense philosophy or trying to recreate thru sound an acid trip..Great harmonies,straight rock,smart pop,blues and country.Not a bad song to be found. Afterwards their leader Skip Spence and their manager left to join Jeffferson Airplane and it all fell apart Modern English-A British punk band formed in 1979 I only know them via a 12 inch single of their classic I'll Melt With You Money,Eddie-Son of a Brooklyn cop, was attending the Police Academy while singing at clubs during the night. Got a record deal and gave up the night stick Blue collar rock n roll.Baby Hold On To Me/Take Me Home Tonight (with Ronnie Spectre)/Think I'm In Love among his hits. A greatest -hits CD is all you'd want
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Post by Ish Kabbible on May 4, 2014 0:54:16 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2014 1:00:03 GMT -5
I've been listening to a lot of Roky Erickson and Billy Childish lately.
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Post by Nowhere Man on May 4, 2014 1:03:11 GMT -5
I'm going to explore this thread in detail soon (I'm work and stay on night schedule even when I'm off, so until i'm properly caffeinated, my attention span is...crap)but I had a few questions. Sorry if these are silly.
1. Is there any criteria as to what warrants "underground" status other than a general sense that said artist is under-appreciated or underrated? (I'm assuming anyone in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame is out by default)
2. Do you count parts of an artists career that was "underground" but later went very mainstream?
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Post by Ish Kabbible on May 4, 2014 1:16:11 GMT -5
The thread itself is general music.In the old forum people posted their thoughts on everything from rock,blues,jazz to classical.We might even have had a Don Ho afficianado as well. Whatever you like My own little summaries deal with only artists I've actually purchased and therefore listened extensively.I try not to bother with those who are too well known to most people And there were conversations on other music topics. I wrote up why I thought 1969 was a special year for music. There was a conversation on favorite concert halls that no longer exist. Dan sometimes comes on board with his Ode to the Eagles. Whatever you like
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2014 2:54:59 GMT -5
Modern English-A British punk band formed in 1979 I only know them via a 12 inch single of their classic I'll Melt With You. Great pop single, though completely unexpected to those of us who knew them before that as a rather morose postpunk outfit --
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2014 11:10:26 GMT -5
I know we have a lot of science fiction fans on the board, have you heard about synthwave? It's electronic music that is a revival of retro synth sounds of the 80's. Sounds like that awesome background music heard in 80's sci-fi/horror B-Movies. Here are a few of my favorite tracks:
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Post by Phil Maurice on May 4, 2014 11:34:21 GMT -5
Glad you enjoyed that Phil. Try this on for size -- A British Prog band called Gravy Train. This is their 1974 album titled "Staircase to the Day". Yeah, you've definitely scored a direct hit with me. 70s British Prog and Glam rock are just about my absolute favorite genres.
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Post by impulse on May 4, 2014 11:41:21 GMT -5
Okay, I know this is a general music thread, but I'd like to post something that plays into both "classics" and "underground." Has anyone here ever heard of the cult 70s prog rock band Captain Beyond? They were a supergroup of sorts, comprised of Larry "Rhino" Renhardt and Lee Dorman of Iron Butterfly, Rod Evans of Deep Purple, and Bobby Caldwell of Johnny Winter And. They likely would have been huge if not poorly managed, and while they're not a household name, they have a huge cult following and are well known among musicians. Jimmy Chamberlain of the Smashing Pumpkins and Taylor Hawkins of the Foo Fighters have cited the band as an influence to name a few. Anyway, their self-titled debut is AMAZING. It's a blend of blistering rock, psychedelia and some jazz time signatures, chords and arrangements. If you have any remote interest in 70s rock, give its listen and let me know what you think. As it happens, I'm good friends with Bobby Caldwell, and I have to say he is a swell guy.
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