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Post by Roquefort Raider on Apr 28, 2017 8:09:29 GMT -5
There's an ongoing controversy over whether or not philosophy has any place in the modern world as a serious discipline as more and more of its traditional domain is taken over by science. Of course you could say that science itself emerged from philosophy and was once considered part of it, so perhaps this is just a matter of nomenclature. But regardless, I think there is still a need for philosophy as such and that the more science discovers and grows the more there is to think about in philosophical terms. The first chapter of Jack London's The iron heel firmly states the author's opinion on the matter: philosophy should be the mother of all sciences, the über-science... but it quickly become irrelevant if it focuses only on itself and does not include the physical sciences and what they tell us about the world as it is. |
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Post by shaxper on Apr 28, 2017 8:20:59 GMT -5
There's an ongoing controversy over whether or not philosophy has any place in the modern world as a serious discipline as more and more of its traditional domain is taken over by science. Of course you could say that science itself emerged from philosophy and was once considered part of it, so perhaps this is just a matter of nomenclature. But regardless, I think there is still a need for philosophy as such and that the more science discovers and grows the more there is to think about in philosophical terms. We may have answered some of the questions philosophy asked, but we live in an increasingly results-oriented society in which we're not even encouraged to ask the big questions anymore. It's the kind of thinking Philosophy inspires more than any answers it does or does not provide that is worthwhile and (I believe) necessary in order to lead a quality life. I think Intro to Philosophy should be a high school requirement, as well as a liberal arts requirement in college. |
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Apr 28, 2017 8:30:28 GMT -5
These physics experiments are also deeply philosophical.
What, after all, is more philosophical than the very nature of reality?
Furthermore... their coolness factor exceeds that of Hoth!!!
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Post by Batflunkie on Apr 28, 2017 11:14:34 GMT -5
There's an ongoing controversy over whether or not philosophy has any place in the modern world as a serious discipline as more and more of its traditional domain is taken over by science. Of course you could say that science itself emerged from philosophy and was once considered part of it, so perhaps this is just a matter of nomenclature. But regardless, I think there is still a need for philosophy as such and that the more science discovers and grows the more there is to think about in philosophical terms. Philosophy might as well be the Black Obelisk from 2001. It is the be all, end all science of humans as a race of creatures who can think, breathe, dream, and build |
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Post by berkley on May 1, 2017 19:14:14 GMT -5
I feel that one other obvious suggestion should be made: start with the Greeks. Like so many other aspects of Western culture, that's where it all started and most of the questions dealt with ever since were already discussed by them. The Pre-Socratics might be said to have invented science and cosmology while they were at it, since they were speculating on the nature and origin of the universe in a way that had not been done before, at least in what we now call the Western tradition. There are several good, cheap paperback collections from Penguin and Oxford.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on May 1, 2017 19:21:53 GMT -5
Sophie's world! Gotta read Sophie's world! A most amusing overview of the many worlds of philosophy!
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Post by Rob Allen on May 3, 2017 18:06:25 GMT -5
If this works, here's the latest monthly newsletter from Philosophy Talk, the radio show/podcast that I mentioned earlier. See if it looks interesting:
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Post by berkley on May 4, 2017 0:51:01 GMT -5
That space-time one sounds especially interesting.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on May 6, 2017 17:34:40 GMT -5
The test to determine if something is real or not:
Is there porn of it?
If not, it doesn't exist.
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Post by Pharozonk on May 6, 2017 17:44:27 GMT -5
The test to determine if something is real or not: Is there porn of it? If not, it doesn't exist. I always knew E.T. was based on a true story. |
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Post by Roquefort Raider on May 6, 2017 17:54:01 GMT -5
The test to determine if something is real or not: Is there porn of it? If not, it doesn't exist. I always knew E.T. was based on a true story. I shudder to ask...  |
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Post by shaxper on May 8, 2017 10:56:41 GMT -5
The test to determine if something is real or not: Is there porn of it? If not, it doesn't exist. The Classic Comics Forum does not exist (at least I hope. Wait, that's not what I meant!) |
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Post by berkley on May 9, 2017 17:01:38 GMT -5
Another thing I forgot to mention: that "Introducing ..." series of books that combines words and graphics is surprisingly good, from the few I've looked at. They're fairly brief so they really are just introductions and as such are in no way a substitute for reading the books themselves, but they can be very helpful in coming to grips with some of the more difficult concepts or just to get an idea of what a particular thinker is all about, so that you can then decide if you want to continue and read something of that philosopher's own books. And of course there's an extra appeal to us comics readers since we know how effective the combination of words and pictures can be in communicating all kinds of things.
edit: aka " ... for Beginners". I'm not sure if these are two separate lines with similar formats or the same one published under two different titles. But they,re much the same, as far as I can tell. I have the Marx for Beginners one here that I should take a look at soon.
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Post by Batflunkie on May 10, 2017 0:18:05 GMT -5
The test to determine if something is real or not: Is there porn of it? If not, it doesn't exist. My personal philosophy is that something is only as real as we make it to be. There's a lot of fun to be had with that notion alone and the amount of trickery you can do with the human mind is almost limitless. "The devil is in the details" as they say... Also, look up "Ojectifile" when you get a chance. Really goes to show how absolutely depraved some people can truly be when given the chance |
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Jun 10, 2017 9:59:39 GMT -5
Stephen Fry is definitely someone I'd like to exchange with. "Self-pity is the ugliest emotion in humanity"... it takes guts to dare utter such words today!
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