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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jan 17, 2023 18:53:39 GMT -5
Moon Lake by Joe R. LansdaleAs I've mentioned before, Lansdale is one of my two favorite current prose authors. He's a master of genre fiction, but he can be a little inconsistent. Maybe it's because he's so prolific. And this was right there in the sweet spot for Lansdale, a period piece that also has hints of horror and thriller in it. But for whatever reason it just didn't quite work for me. Daniel Russell was 13 years old when his father drove the two of them and their Buick off the bridge and in to Moon Lake. Danny was saved by Ronnie Candles, a young black girl of about his age. Years later, Danny is a writer when the Buick and his father's bones are found when Moon Lake dries up. And Danny and Ronnie (now a police officer) are thrust in to a mystery in a very small town in Texas that is still very much under the influence of Jim Crow and is utterly controlled by a town council that doesn't seem to answer to anyone. There's just everything there that should work for me, particularly in the hands of Lansdale. But it didn't quite work. I honestly didn't care much about Danny. The mystery wasn't really very mysterious, it was more about getting to the necessary evidence. Which can work. It did in Columbo. It didn't work for me here. There were small niggling issues with the time periods and the ages of, in particular, the antagonists. The kind of stuff I don't expect from Lansdale. The book just never really drew me in and made me lose sleep...and that's rare for Lansdale. Don't get me wrong, I don't regret reading it. But it was very disappointing.
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Post by berkley on Jan 17, 2023 19:44:09 GMT -5
Moon Lake by Joe R. LansdaleAs I've mentioned before, Lansdale is one of my two favorite current prose authors. He's a master of genre fiction, but he can be a little inconsistent. Maybe it's because he's so prolific. And this was right there in the sweet spot for Lansdale, a period piece that also has hints of horror and thriller in it. But for whatever reason it just didn't quite work for me. Daniel Russell was 13 years old when his father drove the two of them and their Buick off the bridge and in to Moon Lake. Danny was saved by Ronnie Candles, a young black girl of about his age. Years later, Danny is a writer when the Buick and his father's bones are found when Moon Lake dries up. And Danny and Ronnie (now a police officer) are thrust in to a mystery in a very small town in Texas that is still very much under the influence of Jim Crow and is utterly controlled by a town council that doesn't seem to answer to anyone. There's just everything there that should work for me, particularly in the hands of Lansdale. But it didn't quite work. I honestly didn't care much about Danny. The mystery wasn't really very mysterious, it was more about getting to the necessary evidence. Which can work. It did in Columbo. It didn't work for me here. There were small niggling issues with the time periods and the ages of, in particular, the antagonists. The kind of stuff I don't expect from Lansdale. The book just never really drew me in and made me lose sleep...and that's rare for Lansdale. Don't get me wrong, I don't regret reading it. But it was very disappointing.
As someone who's read a fair bit of Lansdale, which of his would you recommend to start with? Looking at the list I keep of writers and books I might want to try sometime, all I have is the Collins and Pine series, but I know he's done much more besides those.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jan 17, 2023 20:01:08 GMT -5
Moon Lake by Joe R. LansdaleAs I've mentioned before, Lansdale is one of my two favorite current prose authors. He's a master of genre fiction, but he can be a little inconsistent. Maybe it's because he's so prolific. And this was right there in the sweet spot for Lansdale, a period piece that also has hints of horror and thriller in it. But for whatever reason it just didn't quite work for me. Daniel Russell was 13 years old when his father drove the two of them and their Buick off the bridge and in to Moon Lake. Danny was saved by Ronnie Candles, a young black girl of about his age. Years later, Danny is a writer when the Buick and his father's bones are found when Moon Lake dries up. And Danny and Ronnie (now a police officer) are thrust in to a mystery in a very small town in Texas that is still very much under the influence of Jim Crow and is utterly controlled by a town council that doesn't seem to answer to anyone. There's just everything there that should work for me, particularly in the hands of Lansdale. But it didn't quite work. I honestly didn't care much about Danny. The mystery wasn't really very mysterious, it was more about getting to the necessary evidence. Which can work. It did in Columbo. It didn't work for me here. There were small niggling issues with the time periods and the ages of, in particular, the antagonists. The kind of stuff I don't expect from Lansdale. The book just never really drew me in and made me lose sleep...and that's rare for Lansdale. Don't get me wrong, I don't regret reading it. But it was very disappointing.
As someone who's read a fair bit of Lansdale, which of his would you recommend to start with? Looking at the list I keep of writers and books I might want to try sometime, all I have is the Collins and Pine series, but I know he's done much more besides those.
The Bottoms and Paradise Sky are outstanding historical novels. The Thicket is just a bit behind them and is pretty dark as well. The first three or four Hap & Leonard novels are excellent. Pretty much any of his short story collections are worth a read (though there’s a fair bit of overlap). The Best of Joe R. Lansdale and High Cotton are both highly recommended.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2023 2:51:26 GMT -5
Finished my second prose book of the year, the second volumes of the Dragnlance Legends series War of the Twins by Weis & Hickman. So we are getting ready to play in the new Dragonlance campaign that was recently released, as one of my players is returning from deployment and wanted to take a turn at DMing after DMing for some of the folks he was deployed with, so I decided to finally get back to the Dragonlance stuff I had never read. I adore the War of the Lance trilogy and have read it several times over the years since high school, but other than that I had only ever gotten through the first volumes of the Legends trilogy, and have decided to read at least that trilogy and maybe the rest of the stuff by Weis and Hickman, but not the stuff done by others. I reread the first volume last year, but didn't pick up the second volume immediately, but finally did the day after Christmas, reading a chapter or so a day while interspersed with other books, but sat down tonight and hammered out the last 60 pages. It's good D&D fantasy, well written and engaging, but it's nothing more than that. And the Legends trilogy deals with Time Travel, going back into the past to try to change things, which is not my favorite thing, as I find time travel and high fantasy to be a poor match most of the time. It's done as well as can be, but it still doesn't hook me like the earlier trilogy did (not to mention that this trilogy does not involve most of my favorite characters among the Heroes of the Lance. I will finish the trilogy, though it might be a short bit before I pick up book 3 as I get to some other stuff in my TBR list first. -M
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Post by EdoBosnar on Jan 21, 2023 6:21:01 GMT -5
MessiahGore Vidal, 1954 This is a story about how a minor cult-like movement known as Cavism is formed and then quickly grows into a major religion that eventually takes over the US and much of the world (except, notably, the Islamic countries). The titular messiah is a man named John Cave (the significant initials are remarked upon in the book), who was an assistant mortician from the Seattle area. He’s not a very sophisticated person, and his ideas are rather simplistic: the basic idea is that death is not to be feared and avoided, but rather gladly accepted when it comes. What’s notable about Cave is that he has an odd charisma and an almost hypnotic gaze – which plays well once he appears on television. Against all expectations, Cave and his message become wildly popular and eventually supplant every other religion within a matter of about two years. Of course, his message gets subjected to numerous interpretations and reinterpretations by the members of his inner circle, and gets turned into a death/suicide doctrine by some, while Cave himself eventually seems to outlive his use. The book is narrated as a memoir written by a man named Eugene Luther (the surname is, obviously, symbolically significant, but it’s also notable in that the author’s official name was Eugene Luther Gore Vidal – he later dropped the first two), one of Cave’s earliest adherents, a bored East Coast intellectual with deep knowledge of Classical history and philosophy, who becomes a member of the movement’s inner circle but who is later branded as a heretic because of certain disagreements with the accepted Cavist doctrine. In fact, his memoir is being written 50 years after the main events, when Luther is an old man in failing health, living in exile under an assumed name in Egypt. There is well worth reading for a number of reasons. First and foremost, it’s a really well-written story, but Vidal also delves into many religious, philosophical and political themes here in a very thought-provoking way – which should come as no surprise if you’ve ever read any of his non-fiction works, the guy was really knowledgeable in all of those fields. You can also see it as Vidal anticipating, among other things, a number of death cults in the US, like Jim Jones’ Peoples Temple or Heaven's Gate. And I can’t help wondering if he was also basing some of aspects of the origin of Cavism on L. Ron Hubbard’s Scientology, which was just being established in the early 1950s when Vidal was writing this book.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jan 21, 2023 14:05:12 GMT -5
MessiahGore Vidal, 1954 I've got some of Vidal's historical fiction coming up in my reading queue. I'll have to find a place for this.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jan 21, 2023 14:19:07 GMT -5
What Mad Universe by Fredric Brown
Keith Winton is an editor of pulp science fiction magazines. Things are going well...the job is good. His boss likes him. He's making headway in romancing a lovely editor of romance magazines. And then a freak accident from a failed rocket launch thrusts him in to a different reality...one that, upon further review, bares a striking resemblance to one of the space opera's from the stories he edits. Now Keith Winton has to try to survive in a world where he can be shot on sight for being an alien invader. Where the Earth is united in an intergalactic war. And he has to hope he can survive this mad universe and find a way home. This is a re-read but, honestly, I didn't remember anything but the very basics of the story. This is a very early use of parallel universes and an explanation of the classic multiverse in SF. A good book and historically important. It breezed along, which was nice. I have seen this sometimes described as humorous and I have to wonder if that's solely on the basis of Brown's reputation for writing humorous SF. Because this is not a particularly funny book. It's light, but you're not getting anything like Brown's "Martians, Go Home." It is a recommended read, particularly if you are looking for seminal SF.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jan 24, 2023 16:33:17 GMT -5
Middle Game Seanan McGuire
I feel like I know this author personally, because only someone I know could have designed a book that so perfectly embodies everything I hate in a book:
Start with the ending, so you know what happens and everything happens in flashback? check. Magic system that has no rules? check Whiny main characters that I can't possibly root for? check. No plot? check. bad guys that kill randomly to point out they're they bad guys? check. Ridiculously anti-climatic ending? check. No chance for the good guys to lose in the end? check... because, Worst of all.. Time travel? check.
This would have been a DNF at page 50 if it wasn't a book club book. This is also the last book I hope to ever have to read from this author... the last one I tried was had a book flap that made it sound interesting but was really a zombie book in disguise. Oh, by the way, there WERE sort of zombies in the book too (more like golems,but they were close)
I'm sure some people like this book for the writing, which is good. There are probably people that think whiny Millenial main characters that can't handle any problems, until suddenly they can, not because of maturity or growth, just because the plot demands it, are entertaining. I'm definitely not one of them.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2023 1:56:53 GMT -5
Finished the last bookof the History of the Runestaff (Book #4 The Runestaff) by Michael Moorcock This was not one of the Moorcock Eternal Champion series I sampled in high school, so was a first time read for me. I found this series to be uneven, but I am glad I read it. -M
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Post by EdoBosnar on Jan 29, 2023 12:53:21 GMT -5
Gold Fame CitrusClaire Vaye Watkins, 2015 This is a dystopian story set in the near(ish) future, in which the American southwest (mainly the majority of California, but also adjacent states like Arizona, southern Nevada, etc.) out basically out of water: the aquifers are depleted and the rivers and lakes are all dried up. Most of inland California is covered by a gigantic, expanding desert in which the immense sand dunes seem almost alive. The main characters are a woman named Luz Dunn and her partner/lover, Ray, who initially live in the ruins of LA, mainly populated by scavengers who didn’t manage to migrate more habitable states to the north or east. When they come across a toddler being mistreated by people who may or may not be her actual family, they decide to take her and then eventually leave the coast in the hopes of going east to find a better life. This involves the ill-advised decision to drive a car that Ray fixed up into the desert. When they run out of gas, Ray decides to set off on foot to get help and then disappears. Luz, on the brink of death, and the baby are found and taken in by a community of nomads who travel through the dunes on the edge of the desert, led by a charismatic man named Levi Zabriskie. Luz is taken with him, but eventually realizes that he’s mad and the community is a cult. This is a pretty well-written book, with really interesting sections and passages, but I found it kind of bleak overall, and also a bit tedious at places. The title, by the way, is from something Ray says early in the book about why people used to flock to California, i.e., for ‘gold, fame and citrus.’
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jan 29, 2023 15:30:35 GMT -5
The Perfect King: The Life of Edward III, Father of the English Nation by Ian MortimerWhile I was pretty familiar with the broad strokes of the life of Edward III, but was by no means prepared for the deep dive of this biography. I certainly should have been, as Edward III was one of the most consequential monarchs in English history. Taking far more after his grandfather, Edward I, than his poor father, Edward II, Edward III was a giant of foreign adventures, extending English territories to their greatest extent in France at the start of the Hundred Years War that it had been since the reign of Henry II. He was also a very successful monarch at home, regularly calling Parliament, regularly listening to The Commons and setting a standard for letting Parliament have a voice. My biggest complaint is that Mortimer subscribes to the theory that Edward II wasn't killed and was kept in hiding in Italy following the deposition by Roger Mortimer and Queen Isabella. I don't find the evidence compelling and it just kind of smacks of the penchant for conspiracy theories. I do think that other than that Mortimer gives us a very good bio of a very important king. Under Edward III, England truly became a great power. He introduced innovations to warfare that had far-reaching impacts on the course of war and to the politics of Europe as it became clear that commoners with projectile weapons could defeat knights on horseback. Mortimer also did a very good job of showing us the later years of Edward and the impact his aging had. He was the longest reigning English sovereign until Victoria and it probably was detrimental that he outlived his eldest son, Edward, the Black Prince. Overall, an interesting and thought provoking biography. I'd now really like to read good bios of both The Black Prince and John of Gaunt (Edward's fourth son and one of the richest and most powerful men in England during his life). It also definitely raises a lot of alternate history speculation, particularly had Edward chosen to advance on Paris following the Battle of Crecy instead of besieging and taking Calais.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jan 29, 2023 23:49:47 GMT -5
X-Men: Legends Edited by Stan Lee I mostly picked this (and a similar Spider-Man one) up for the curiosity factor, I've never been too attempts at most attempts at prose with comic book characters.. they generally just don't quite work. Once a looked at this one, and realized I didn't recognize too many of the names, I lowered my expectations even more. IT's not TERRIBLE,though. The one name that IS a big one is Brian K. Vaughan.. his story hear has to be one of his first published works (this came out a couple years before Y the last Man even)... his contribution is a pre-X-Men Angel story that isn't bad. One that that's pretty fun is there is a 'continuity guide' that places the stories in X-Men history.. I can't imagine that's even possible these days. My favorite I think was 'Steel Dogs and Englishman', which features a depowered Sean Cassidy and a pre-Excalibur Pete Wisdom vs. Sentinel Dogs created by Justin Hammer... doesn't make alot of sense, but it was pretty fun. Most of the stories feature one (or two) characters, and more the a few only sort of fit with the character (the one that was a magazine interview with Beast was particularly off). Fun diversion none the less.
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Post by MWGallaher on Jan 31, 2023 21:05:53 GMT -5
Just finished my fifth read of Mark Z. Danielewski's The Familiar Volume 1: One Rainy Day in May, and once again, it had me in tears, it had me laughing out loud, it had me gaping in astonishment at the unprecedented effects the author achieved using layout of words on the page to control the reading pace, to convey more than simple straight text could ever do via color, font, voice, and format, it had me philosophizing over the high concepts lurking under the surface narrative. I almost never re-read a book, especially not an 800+ page book, but this and the other four volumes are as close to genuine magic as I have ever experienced in my life. One of the more well-worn premises in this series is the idea of reality/history being subtly altered after the fact--the Mandela Effect--but these books manage to convey that through the most mind-blowing method I've ever had the delight of experiencing: every time I read it, I come across events that I could almost swear didn't happen the previous time I read it, as if the books were being re-written in small ways while they were sitting on my shelf between readings. I think MZD is accomplishing this because the story is so dense that some elements are inevitably forgotten, but also because the events become clearer after the reader has already been exposed to later developments in the story, but don't sink in the first time around. But then there are some that seem completely straightforward and unambiguous that I think "Wait, I would have remembered that from the last time I read it, wouldn't I?" It's a challenging work, written in nine (plus) very distinctive voices, an intricately intertwined narrative in which each chapter picks up immediately following the previous one, time-coded for your convenience. Each volume includes an ancient history short story, a related/unrelated short story, an animal story, two serial installments, two pages of graphic narrative, in addition to the primary story about nine (main) characters and a mysterious cat, an invention that can receive scenes from the past, the criminal drug trade, high-tech conspiracy, murder investigations, the Armenian genocide, but primarily, it's about an epileptic girl who's one of the most unforgettable fictional characters I've ever read. Like all of Danielewski's works, there is a high likelihood that "This is not for you." But man, oh man, it's for me.
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Post by berkley on Feb 1, 2023 0:46:47 GMT -5
Finished the last bookof the History of the Runestaff (Book #4 The Runestaff) by Michael Moorcock This was not one of the Moorcock Eternal Champion series I sampled in high school, so was a first time read for me. I found this series to be uneven, but I am glad I read it. -M
I think of it as one of my favourite of Moorcock's but it's probably more for the concept than for the execution: I like the world he created for this one, a fantasy Europe with Gran Bretan as the bad guys and a vaguely Germanic hero - not that I have anything in particular against Great Britain, but I liked the rôle reversal from the aftermath of WWII. But it seems he wrote The Hawkmoon series in haste - I mean even more so than usual for the extremely fast and prolific Moorcock, so perhaps the actual writing isn't quite up to his usual level. I'll have to see how it feels when I read it again, as I hope to do one of these days, along with all the other Eternal Champion books, many of which I still haven't read.
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Post by berkley on Feb 1, 2023 0:55:23 GMT -5
Just finished my fifth read of Mark Z. Danielewski's The Familiar Volume 1: One Rainy Day in May, and once again, it had me in tears, it had me laughing out loud, it had me gaping in astonishment at the unprecedented effects the author achieved using layout of words on the page to control the reading pace, to convey more than simple straight text could ever do via color, font, voice, and format, it had me philosophizing over the high concepts lurking under the surface narrative. I almost never re-read a book, especially not an 800+ page book, but this and the other four volumes are as close to genuine magic as I have ever experienced in my life. One of the more well-worn premises in this series is the idea of reality/history being subtly altered after the fact--the Mandela Effect--but these books manage to convey that through the most mind-blowing method I've ever had the delight of experiencing: every time I read it, I come across events that I could almost swear didn't happen the previous time I read it, as if the books were being re-written in small ways while they were sitting on my shelf between readings. I think MZD is accomplishing this because the story is so dense that some elements are inevitably forgotten, but also because the events become clearer after the reader has already been exposed to later developments in the story, but don't sink in the first time around. But then there are some that seem completely straightforward and unambiguous that I think "Wait, I would have remembered that from the last time I read it, wouldn't I?" It's a challenging work, written in nine (plus) very distinctive voices, an intricately intertwined narrative in which each chapter picks up immediately following the previous one, time-coded for your convenience. Each volume includes an ancient history short story, a related/unrelated short story, an animal story, two serial installments, two pages of graphic narrative, in addition to the primary story about nine (main) characters and a mysterious cat, an invention that can receive scenes from the past, the criminal drug trade, high-tech conspiracy, murder investigations, the Armenian genocide, but primarily, it's about an epileptic girl who's one of the most unforgettable fictional characters I've ever read. Like all of Danielewski's works, there is a high likelihood that "This is not for you." But man, oh man, it's for me.
I've long been meaning to try Danielewski but with me it'll probably be House of Leaves first, since I already have a copy of that one. Good to hear this recommendation for one of his other books though, that encourages me to keep looking forward to reading something of his. Have you read the rest of the Familiar series (if that's the right word for it), or however much he's published so far?
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