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Post by EdoBosnar on Jul 25, 2021 15:46:30 GMT -5
What are people's thoughts on sci-fi author Leigh Brackett? I know her predominantly for writing an early version of the Empire Strikes Back script, but I've never read any of her books. A local thrift store has cheap copies of her books People of the Talisman and The Nemesis from Terra, and I wondered if they're any good? She was a top-notch writer of planetary romance action tales. Those two books are, I believe, expanded versions of stories original published in the sci-fi pulp magazines in the 1940s. The former (i.e., People of the Talisman) features her recurring character Eric John Stark - who's the main character in her Skaith trilogy published in the 1970s (I wrote a brief review of those elsewhere a few years ago - scroll down to the sub-heading "Walking the dogs on a dying planet" and the Steranko covers). Anyway, definitely worth getting, esp. if they're cheap.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jul 25, 2021 17:09:47 GMT -5
Brackett wasn't just an SF/Fantasy writer. She was at least as good at writing noir/detective fiction. “No Good From a Corpse “ is a very good hardboiled detective novel and is the book that got Howard Hawks to hire her (without knowing she was a woman) to work on the screenplay for “The Big Sleep.” She went on to work on a lot of screenplays for Hawks.
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Post by EdoBosnar on Jul 26, 2021 7:12:21 GMT -5
To add to what Slam said above, Confessor, Brackett also ventured into more 'hard' SF - I read one of those efforts and posted about it in this very thread last year. Basically, the point is that she was a pretty solid writer across the board and you probably can't go wrong picking up anything she wrote. p.s. * stated sheepishly* fixed the link, or rather, put the damn thing in, my earlier post...
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Post by Confessor on Jul 26, 2021 12:23:21 GMT -5
EdoBosnar, I went back to the thrift store and unfortunately one of the Brackett books had gone, but I did pick up The Coming of the Terrans (which I mistakenly reported was The Nemisis Of Terra). It's apparently a collection of short storys that we're originally published in various pulp sci-fi magazines and which form a loose "colonising of Mars" plot, much like Ray Bradbury's Martian Chronicles.
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Post by EdoBosnar on Jul 26, 2021 14:29:07 GMT -5
EdoBosnar , I went back to the thrift store and unfortunately one of the Brackett books had gone, but I did pick up The Coming of the Terrans (which I mistakenly reported was The Nemisis Of Terra). It's apparently a collection of short storys that we're originally published in various pulp sci-fi magazines and which form a loose "colonising of Mars" plot, much like Ray Bradbury's Martian Chronicles. Too bad about the other book. I checked the contents of the one you got at the Internet Speculative Fiction DB; I've read the first two, while two more I have on a flash drive somewhere (I downloaded scans of the original pulps they appeared in from the Internet Archive) still waiting to be read - one of which, "The Road to Sinharat" is an Eric John Stark story. Seems like a solid collection in any case.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jul 27, 2021 10:31:13 GMT -5
The Night Fire By Michael Connelly
I think I've decided that I don't really like Renee Ballard that much. That doesn't take away from the fact that this is a really crazy, interconnected web of cases that is really interesting to unwind with Bosch and Ballard.
Most of the story is telling their separate investigations that only occasionally come together before the end. There's also more with Bosch working for Mickey Haller, who I REALLY don't like, but I'm pretty sure I'm not supposed to. I do like the interactions with Bosch trying to justify (pretty successfully, in fact) working for the defense. What I would really like to see if they're going to continue along this line (which seems unlikely, as in story Haller says he doesn't do murder cases anymore), I want to see what happens if Harry accidently gets a bad guy off... perhaps that wouldn't work as a story, and thus we won't see it.
Also, I REALLY REALLY want the series to get to a point where Bosch works a case for Maddie, whatever they decide to have her do (though not sure that'll be viable in the time line, but who cares if they have to stretch reality).
I definitely think Michael Connelly is really good.. I have no issue following along just reading the books in whatever order I come upon them, and neither feel confused or like I'm missing anything (perhaps having watched the TV show helps with that).
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Post by wildfire2099 on Aug 1, 2021 22:29:46 GMT -5
Yarrow Charles de Lint
This was almost a really good book. I think if you cut out the first half, which simply gives us a detailed look at what life was like in Ottawa in the mid-80s, and cut to the chase, you'd have a pretty decent novella. If this was 3x longer, and Otherland was fleshed out... the bad guy given some sort of motivation beyond 'hungry' and those people described in the first of the book made a bit more important, it'd probably be a good epic fantasy.
As it is, it fails on both counts. The 1st half of the book is largely irrelevant, other than to name drop the books, bands, and TV shows the author likes. The main character, Cat, is massively unlikable and emo-y. The two main support characters, Peter and Ben, are impossibly nice to her.. I guess it could be a commentary on the power of fandom to overlook a person's flaws, but I think it was just lazy writing.
Once the story actually starts, it's a page turner for sure, but doesn't really get into any of the interesting things that are just vaguely hinted at. If those were fleshed out? You might have something. But instead we get one of those books with a thoroughly unsatisfying conclusion that leaves the readers to write most of the details themselves.
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Post by berkley on Aug 1, 2021 23:50:32 GMT -5
Yarrow Charles de Lint This was almost a really good book. I think if you cut out the first half, which simply gives us a detailed look at what life was like in Ottawa in the mid-80s, and cut to the chase, you'd have a pretty decent novella. If this was 3x longer, and Otherland was fleshed out... the bad guy given some sort of motivation beyond 'hungry' and those people described in the first of the book made a bit more important, it'd probably be a good epic fantasy. As it is, it fails on both counts. The 1st half of the book is largely irrelevant, other than to name drop the books, bands, and TV shows the author likes. The main character, Cat, is massively unlikable and emo-y. The two main support characters, Peter and Ben, are impossibly nice to her.. I guess it could be a commentary on the power of fandom to overlook a person's flaws, but I think it was just lazy writing. Once the story actually starts, it's a page turner for sure, but doesn't really get into any of the interesting things that are just vaguely hinted at. If those were fleshed out? You might have something. But instead we get one of those books with a thoroughly unsatisfying conclusion that leaves the readers to write most of the details themselves. I've read almost no modern fantasy since the 70s but de Lint is one of the few writers specialising in that genre that I've considered trying at some point, so any recommendations would be welcome. I take it that Yarrow isn't the best to start with?
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Post by wildfire2099 on Aug 2, 2021 0:08:33 GMT -5
I don't think I'd read anything else by him, though I'd definitely seen his name a number of times. If you're a fan of the genre of books that revolve around a book store, you might like it.. this could almost fit into that retroactively.
He has one long running series that has alot of the same themes as Yarrow (so it seems from the reviews and such), so perhaps it works better there.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Aug 3, 2021 13:30:25 GMT -5
Piranesi Susanna Clarke
I came into this books with very low expectations, I didn't like the authors other book (how can you write 1000 pages and have nothing happen??? She managed it), and I generally hate 'atmospheric' novels, but being a good book club member, and seeing it was a short book, I get it a shot.
It was pretty much exactly as I expected...very pretty prose and descriptions.. the Labyrinth is very well described, and the main character interesting. Any number of interesting adventures could happen there.... it could be another dimension that needed protecting, or one that needed protecting against. It could be the remants of our world, or some other. It could have other people, or a lost civilization, or any number of things... I'm sure a professional writer that actually writes novels instead of story board descriptions could come up with.
Instead, we get a crackpot evil scientist that people know about, but no one believes, despite multiple people (including the police!) visiting the place, and there being clear photographic evidence that no one could explain away. Why? No reason, apparently. Is the place really magical? No idea! Fount of all hidden knowledge? Maybe.
I know some people like unanswered questions in books... they are fun to discuss for sure, but the thing is, if there's no answer, there's no discussion really. If the author doesn't know what happened, who does? If I'm reading a book, answers should be there. THey can be a bit mysterious or up for debate, but they have to be there. Otherwise, why did I read your book, instead of write my own?
Hopefully, this will be the last atmospheric I'll have to suffer through for a while.. at least this one is short.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2021 8:53:16 GMT -5
Kind of got stuck on the Wheel of Time stuff and hadn't read much prose recently, but switched gears, and read this... Baltimore: The Steadfast Tin Solder and the Vampire by Mike Mignola and Christopher Golden with spot illustrations by Mignola. The structure is similar to The Decameron in that three strangers gather in a pub and share tales, which gives us their backstory and their relationship with a fourth figure, Lord Baltimore, whom we also learn of through their tales of their association with him, all occurring in a time of plague. However, we also learn the nature of the plague is not disease, but of vampires, and it culminates with the appearance of that fourth figure in a confrontation with the architect of the plague. I generally enjoy Mignola's storytelling, and have read a bunch of Golden's stuff both in comics and in prose, both in partnership with Mignola and Sniegowski and on his own, and this was no exception. It's a bit of a slow burn at first, as the stories told have to establish a foundation for everything else to be built upon, but it works and draws the reader in. I am not exactly sure of the relationship between this novel and the Baltimore series of graphic novels, as I haven't read those yet, but I have tham and will likely dive in soon. I know the novel preceded them, and I think they are an expansion and continuation of the story, but I am not sure. We'll find out. -M
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Post by wildfire2099 on Aug 7, 2021 10:39:21 GMT -5
Star Trek: The Final Reflection by John Ford
This was definitely my favorite of the group of Trek novels I got... it's an in-universe novel with the Klingons perspective of the original treaty between the two empires. While many of the facts here have since been contradicted when TNG focused on the Klingons (even the name of the Klingon home planet was different) that doesn't make the story or the characters any less interesting. Both Captain Krenn, and the Federation diplomat Dr. Kilgore were great characters I would certainly read about again (though I don't think they do come back) . I'll definitely check out the other Trek novel by this author at some point.
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Post by EdoBosnar on Aug 8, 2021 9:26:07 GMT -5
The Pleasure PalaceJoan Lee, 1987 So, the only reason I picked this book up is because it was written by Stan Lee's wife. And - it's not bad, but nothing spectacular, either. First I should say that title is a bit misleading. The 'Pleasure Palace' is the name of a luxury ship that's supposed to be a private club for the world's wealthiest people, a joint business venture of one of the book's main characters, Nick Tyson, and a Middle Eastern oil sheikh. Based on that brief description, as well as the cover blurb and photo (that's from the UK edition, by the way), you'd think it's all about the debauched orgies of the obscenely wealthy on a floating Xanadu. In fact, though, very little of story takes place on the titular seafaring vessel - basically the prologue, which briefly introduces most of the main cast, and the last few chapters in the last thirty or so pages. The rest is a rather lengthy flashback as to how it all came about, delving deeply into the back stories of main characters, mainly young and beautiful people who are already wealthy or soon become wealthy, like the already-mentioned Nick, a twenty-something entrepreneur and son of a super-successful Louisiana businessman, his possessive mother Cynthia, Jan Julliard, an aspiring model who falls madly in love with Nick (and vice versa), Cat Bracken, an up and coming singer and actress who has a very troubled past, Mark Squire, a rags-to-riches hair-dresser and then hair-care products entrepreneur, and a number of others. Their lives become intertwined and things come to a head at the launch party for the Pleasure Palace. As I indicated above, this is a competently written book, but not really the type of stuff I normally like reading. It's kind of like one of those night-time soaps, like Dallas or Dynasty, in prose form, albeit with more racy and very (very) descriptive sex scenes - Mrs. Lee definitely had a raunchy streak. One the most interesting parts to me was that one of the characters is a transgender woman, which I found surprisingly ahead-of-its-time in the way it was handled.
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Post by berkley on Aug 8, 2021 18:19:06 GMT -5
One of these days I plan to explore the whole sub-genre to which this book sounds like it belongs: I'm thinking of American, sort of trashy, best-selling (or would-be) fiction, or however you want to describe it - writers like Harold Robbins, Jacqueline Susann, Grace Metalious (Peyton Place)... not sure who else - maybe Danielle Steele, Sidney Sheldon?
I haven't really gotten to the point of looking into it in detail yet, but if I ever follow through on this idea I'll keep Joan Lee's The Pleasure Palace in mind.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Aug 8, 2021 23:05:03 GMT -5
In case anyone was wondering.. making some solid indexing progress.. I'm into 2020! (about 50 pages behind current)... I've done 2-3 pages a few different nights the last couple weeks... hopefully the motivation will hold out!
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