shaxper
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Post by shaxper on Jun 16, 2015 7:20:38 GMT -5
WEDDING, not funeral !  Sometimes they're almost indistinguishable.  Careful, we're straying into an Andie MacDowell film... |
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Post by DE Sinclair on Jun 16, 2015 8:51:47 GMT -5
I can actually sympathize with Tara's pov. Her parents supported her and did say they would not have adopted this course of action if 'content warning' was given in advance. Not everyone wants to 'innocently' open a GN and see straight women engage in hot lesbian sex in Y: The Last Man. If I posted pages like that here I'd probably get a pm from a mod. She had several weeks from the time she enrolled and got the syllabus until the drop/add period ended to preview material if she chose to and determine if she found it objectionable and to drop the course if she did. She made a choice not to, so that is on her, not on the university or the professor. If it had been Lolita, Catcher in the Rye, A Clockwork Orange, or Huck Finn or another prose book, and she found it objectionable because of language, violence, or sexual content, no one would bat an eye as those are part of the "western curriculum" and if she was trying to use the same argument, people would be like, you had the chance, the content was there to check out, too bad for you. But because it's comics, and not prose, suddenly the same type of content in the same academic setting is objectionable? I don't think so. It more sounds like a student caught failing a course and trying to find any way to get out of it and out of mommy and daddy's doghouse , so they draw on mommy and daddy's conservative views to build an excuse and get them to go from "what they hell are you doing failing a course we are paying for" to "oh my god what kind of stuff are you exposing my daughter to" to move the blame from her and get her off the hook. I've seen it done a few dozen times by students at all levels. If they can shift the blame by calling foul on someone else when their lack of responsibility catches up with them, they will. -M No sympathy whatsoever for her. As has been stated, she had ample opportunity to take a look at what the books entailed. Probably 10 minutes on Google would have been enough to get the gist of what each one was about. In addition, I thought college was about gaining independence and learning to think independently. So why are her parents involved at all? If she can't handle new ideas presented in comics form, how is she ever going to survive the real world after college?
As to one of Jez's points, material posted on a public, all-ages board faces a different standard from what a supposed adult reads at a college level, especially when they're warned in advance exactly which books will be involved. The fact that the student assumed it would all be "Batman & Robin" is just her ignorance.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jun 16, 2015 10:00:03 GMT -5
She had several weeks from the time she enrolled and got the syllabus until the drop/add period ended to preview material if she chose to and determine if she found it objectionable and to drop the course if she did. She made a choice not to, so that is on her, not on the university or the professor. If it had been Lolita, Catcher in the Rye, A Clockwork Orange, or Huck Finn or another prose book, and she found it objectionable because of language, violence, or sexual content, no one would bat an eye as those are part of the "western curriculum" and if she was trying to use the same argument, people would be like, you had the chance, the content was there to check out, too bad for you. But because it's comics, and not prose, suddenly the same type of content in the same academic setting is objectionable? I don't think so. It more sounds like a student caught failing a course and trying to find any way to get out of it and out of mommy and daddy's doghouse , so they draw on mommy and daddy's conservative views to build an excuse and get them to go from "what they hell are you doing failing a course we are paying for" to "oh my god what kind of stuff are you exposing my daughter to" to move the blame from her and get her off the hook. I've seen it done a few dozen times by students at all levels. If they can shift the blame by calling foul on someone else when their lack of responsibility catches up with them, they will. -M No sympathy whatsoever for her. As has been stated, she had ample opportunity to take a look at what the books entailed. Probably 10 minutes on Google would have been enough to get the gist of what each one was about. In addition, I thought college was about gaining independence and learning to think independently. So why are her parents involved at all? If she can't handle new ideas presented in comics form, how is she ever going to survive the real world after college?
As to one of Jez's points, material posted on a public, all-ages board faces a different standard from what a supposed adult reads at a college level, especially when they're warned in advance exactly which books will be involved. The fact that the student assumed it would all be "Batman & Robin" is just her ignorance.
This is simply another manifestation of the absolutely absurd and ongoing infantilization of Americans. We treat supposed adults like they're children well past the age of childhood. As a result they become delicate little flowers who get "the vapors" whenever they're faced with something that challenges their world-view. And it's not just young adults. I can't count the number of times I've had men and women in their 30s and 40s come into my office with their Mommy's and Daddy's because their precious little dumpling has been "unfairly" charged with a crime. You're an adult in college, for God's sake. If your classes aren't challenging your world-view they aren't doing their job. Suck it up, Buttercup. |
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Post by DE Sinclair on Jun 16, 2015 10:44:25 GMT -5
No sympathy whatsoever for her. As has been stated, she had ample opportunity to take a look at what the books entailed. Probably 10 minutes on Google would have been enough to get the gist of what each one was about. In addition, I thought college was about gaining independence and learning to think independently. So why are her parents involved at all? If she can't handle new ideas presented in comics form, how is she ever going to survive the real world after college?
As to one of Jez's points, material posted on a public, all-ages board faces a different standard from what a supposed adult reads at a college level, especially when they're warned in advance exactly which books will be involved. The fact that the student assumed it would all be "Batman & Robin" is just her ignorance.
This is simply another manifestation of the absolutely absurd and ongoing infantilization of Americans. We treat supposed adults like they're children well past the age of childhood. As a result they become delicate little flowers who get "the vapors" whenever they're faced with something that challenges their world-view. And it's not just young adults. I can't count the number of times I've had men and women in their 30s and 40s come into my office with their Mommy's and Daddy's because their precious little dumpling has been "unfairly" charged with a crime. You're an adult in college, for God's sake. If your classes aren't challenging your world-view they aren't doing their job. Suck it up, Buttercup. I don't doubt you at all, but people in their 30's & 40's dragging their parents with them to see a lawyer? That's beyond pathetic. I was in the Navy from 19 years old to 24, and even at my youngest I couldn't have imagined involving mommy & daddy when some officer was mean to me. I would have been thrown off the ship (probably literally). |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2015 17:45:40 GMT -5
My earbuds decided to partially die on me right before my workout the other day.
Do you know how much that made me want to rage?
I cannot workout without music, and with one side not working, ITISANNOYINGASALLHELLMAKEMERAGE.
My new Yurbuds arrived today, so we'll see how that goes.
Earbuds and/or headphones have about a lifespan of one year, tops, with me. Then they do that rage-inducing-one-side-out thing that makes me want to scream.
I just need to break down and buy several spare pairs.
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Post by Icctrombone on Jun 16, 2015 17:59:18 GMT -5
My earbuds decided to partially die on me right before my workout the other day. Do you know how much that made me want to rage? I cannot workout without music, and with one side not working, ITISANNOYINGASALLHELLMAKEMERAGE. My new Yurbuds arrived today, so we'll see how that goes. Earbuds and/or headphones have about a lifespan of one year, tops, with me. Then they do that rage-inducing-one-side-out thing that makes me want to scream. I just need to break down and buy several spare pairs. Glad to hear from you CW. We were wondering what happened to you. |
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Post by thwhtguardian on Jun 16, 2015 19:41:23 GMT -5
In a way I wish they had been less diplomatic in their response and not added the disclaimer to the syllabus int he future, as it feels like bowing to pressure, but at least they stood their ground on keeping the class and the books, and not giving in the the ridiculous request to get off the hook form a student who didn't do her due diligence when signing up for classes. -M I can actually sympathize with Tara's pov. Her parents supported her and did say they would not have adopted this course of action if 'content warning' was given in advance. Not everyone wants to 'innocently' open a GN and see straight women engage in hot lesbian sex in Y: The Last Man. If I posted pages like that here I'd probably get a pm from a mod. Compared to other standard college literature it's pretty tame. |
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Post by Phil Maurice on Jun 16, 2015 21:58:36 GMT -5
Just scored tickets to Steely Dan, with Elvis Costello on Aug. 9th! So stoked! Now I just have to convince my mid-20's daughters to attend with us.
How I see myself as a Dad:
How they see me as a Dad:
How I really am:
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Post by the4thpip on Jun 17, 2015 3:23:11 GMT -5
And once again, we have a tie in the cover contest.
Could anyone who has not voted yet would please cast a vote for either Farrar or MatthewP to play king maker?
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Post by Confessor on Jun 17, 2015 10:00:51 GMT -5
I went to the funeral of an old friend today. He was only a few years older than me and had fought a long, cruel battle against cancer for the past 14 years. I really hate going to funerals (who doesn't?), but I think that attending them serves a useful purpose, quite apart from the grieving process or paying your respects. I think they are useful in reminding those of us who continue living that life is precious and that we should treasure our own and the lives of those we love.
So anyway, look after yourselves everybody and look after those that you love, along with those that love you.
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Jun 17, 2015 21:28:46 GMT -5
Could I go one day without a Viagra offer in my junk email folder. Is that asking too much?
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Post by Paste Pot Paul on Jun 18, 2015 4:11:26 GMT -5
Could I go one day without a Viagra offer in my junk email folder. Is that asking too much? Could I go one day without a Viagra  |
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Post by the4thpip on Jun 18, 2015 5:45:52 GMT -5
If I want to make sure somebody at work gives me lots of time before they get back to me on an email, I hide the words "viagra Britney Spears naked herbal remedy stock tips" in tiny white font at the bottom.
Then I complain a week later that they never got back to me.
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Jun 18, 2015 8:06:26 GMT -5
Could I go one day without a Viagra offer in my junk email folder. Is that asking too much? Could I go one day without a Viagra I bet it's fun and addictive. I'd have a few drinks, wine and dine myself ... I deserve the whole nine yards. |
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Post by impulse on Jun 18, 2015 8:58:48 GMT -5
If I want to make sure somebody at work gives me lots of time before they get back to me on an email, I hide the words "viagra Britney Spears naked herbal remedy stock tips" in tiny white font at the bottom. Then I complain a week later that they never got back to me. That is diabolically clever. |
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