shaxper
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Post by shaxper on Oct 27, 2016 10:02:25 GMT -5
I figured we could use a venue for discussing the Warren mags, as I know we have many fans here.
I just read Eerie #57 last night and realized, for the first time, that Schreck and Hunter/Hunter II are set in the same universe. Kind of blew my mind.
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Post by brutalis on Oct 27, 2016 10:29:27 GMT -5
Great idea Shaxper!!Growing up in the 70's those Warren Magazine's were always a hard to come by treat for me. None of the local convenience or grocery stores here in Phoenix carried Warren's regularly until the very end of the 70's once Star Wars came out and Warren began "expanding" into other types of science fiction magazines and one shot special's. so it was sporadic issues found here and there and mostly i could find them during the summer's when i would spend 2-3 months with my grandparent's in Payson where the Warren and Marvel magazine lines were carried in the local grocery stores. I guess Payson being a vacation and retiree town and not a big city they had a more substantial magazine buying group than comic books. I could always count on finding several months worth during those long summer visits and that was pure childhood joy.
Special fondness for the Rook series. Science-fiction/fantasy with time travel in a western motif? count me in! The occasional Creepy or Eerie finding was always a treasure as they were some of the most read over and again comics i had at the time. Of course like all our days of yore with growing up and multiple apartment moves and leaving much of my comics collection at home during those times my family would go through them, read and share and lose or give away. Don't think i have any Warren left at all. But i do make it a point to try and read every day at lunch one Warren magazine from their archived/collected site.
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Oct 27, 2016 10:44:19 GMT -5
What a coinci-dinky!! I've been reading the hardcover archives of Creepy, Eerie and Vampirella the past year or so. For all 3 titles, I read the first volumes through about 1975. Also included in my readings is the 4 issue Blazing Combat collection. In my younger days I read them through 1973 so I'm finally in new territory.
And what a strange little roller-coaster of quality it has been. On start up you had some of the greatest artistic talents left over from EC comics contributing to the line with the addition of then-newer greats like Steve Ditko and Neal Adams. Archie Goodwin was the editor as well as writing about 80% of all the stories. Archie was a very talented writer and wrote his stories in the traditional horror sense. There were some great tales but unfortunately the sheer amount of work Archie had to perform had many stories devolve into a sameness. Many were simply the plot of-"Oh I thought that was the vampire/werewolf etc. but it's really the other person
Then about 1968 came a financial crisis at Warren magazines. Tons of reprints. Just about all the artists left-presumably Warren's pay rates got cut. Archie Goodwin departed, on good terms, to do his newspaper strip and other freelance work. Some very poor artists filled in. There were a few bright spots- Tom Sutton began appearing and a very young and rough Ernie Colon. But overall, things looked pretty bleak for Warren for almost 2 years
Eventually, the publications began to pull themselves out of the muck and mire. Reprints slowly went away. Vampirella made her debut. Some promising young talent, many from the undergrounds such as Rich Corben began to appear. An arrangement was made with a Spanish art studio for the best of that countries' artists to start working for Warren. Some exquisitely detailed and lush artwork where now found in the mags. Some young fresh writers or former DC writers joined in like Steve Skeates and Doug Moench. Archie Goodwin returned as well. Color sections in the mags debuted.Bill Dubay took over as editor
That's were I am presently with the 1975 issues. Definitely among the high points of Warren history
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Oct 27, 2016 12:54:15 GMT -5
The closest I have to any Warren magazines is the Vampirella Crimson Chronicles (Maximum Ed) TPB which reprints the first #37 issues of Vampirella's magazine. Vampirella and the Blood Red Queen of Hearts TPB which reprints #49, 60- 62, 65-66, 101-102. A financial feat that I am glad I don't have to try and achieve after finding this gem. There's a few other collections that would neat me some more issues but they (outside of the Crimson Chronicles vol. 1-4 or the Maximum Ed) don't just collect the series in chronological order, which would be nice.
I always enjoy reading these stories again. And especially seeing the Tom Sutton art. Otherwise I have never really gotten into any of the other Warren published material.
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Post by MDG on Oct 27, 2016 13:02:59 GMT -5
What a coinci-dinky!! I've been reading the hardcover archives of Creepy, Eerie and Vampirella the past year or so. For all 3 titles, I read the first volumes through about 1975. Also included in my readings is the 4 issue Blazing Combat collection. In my younger days I read them through 1973 so I'm finally in new territory. How do the hardcovers handle the frequent story reprints? Not even counting the "yearbooks" or special issues, it seemed that Warren would frequently slip in an old story to fill out an issue. I'm a huge fan of the early years, if only for the variety of (usually) top-quality artists. I'm even OK with some of the post-goodwin books when the artwork was a little more cut rate (pro tip: Tony Williamsune is really Tony Tallarico). But when I returned in the 70s, it was mainly for Corben and Wrightson. I never warmed to the Spanish artists. |
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Oct 27, 2016 13:17:47 GMT -5
What a coinci-dinky!! I've been reading the hardcover archives of Creepy, Eerie and Vampirella the past year or so. For all 3 titles, I read the first volumes through about 1975. Also included in my readings is the 4 issue Blazing Combat collection. In my younger days I read them through 1973 so I'm finally in new territory. How do the hardcovers handle the frequent story reprints? Not even counting the "yearbooks" or special issues, it seemed that Warren would frequently slip in an old story to fill out an issue. I'm a huge fan of the early years, if only for the variety of (usually) top-quality artists. I'm even OK with some of the post-goodwin books when the artwork was a little more cut rate (pro tip: Tony Williamsune is really Tony Tallarico). But when I returned in the 70s, it was mainly for Corben and Wrightson. I never warmed to the Spanish artists. The Dark Horse Archives do not include the reprint stories. Which was fine since it would free up pages for an extra issue to be included. Each Warren mag had a table of contents page and if there was a re-print, Dark Horse would note it there and refer you to which archive edition had the original. Sometimes an entire Warren mag would be a reprint, therefore Dark Horse would only include the cover. Dark Horse Archives does reprint all the letter pages, bullpen pages and fan pages |
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Post by brutalis on Oct 27, 2016 13:21:40 GMT -5
What a coinci-dinky!! I've been reading the hardcover archives of Creepy, Eerie and Vampirella the past year or so. For all 3 titles, I read the first volumes through about 1975. Also included in my readings is the 4 issue Blazing Combat collection. In my younger days I read them through 1973 so I'm finally in new territory. How do the hardcovers handle the frequent story reprints? Not even counting the "yearbooks" or special issues, it seemed that Warren would frequently slip in an old story to fill out an issue. I'm a huge fan of the early years, if only for the variety of (usually) top-quality artists. I'm even OK with some of the post-goodwin books when the artwork was a little more cut rate (pro tip: Tony Williamsune is really Tony Tallarico). But when I returned in the 70s, it was mainly for Corben and Wrightson. I never warmed to the Spanish artists. Reverse for me as i missed out on early Warren but it was the later years with so many Spanish artists where i could find issues and to me their art while not truly carrying the dark/horror styling were beautifully rendered and imaginative takes on horror, delivering an almost "Hammer" sense of style, elegance, grandeur to otherwise sometimes mediocre stories. Mix in the classic art styling of Wrightson, Ditko, Corben and the Filipino artists and Warren carried more spectacular art than you could imagine and usually all in one magazine! |
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Post by Rob Allen on Oct 27, 2016 14:25:03 GMT -5
Tony Williamsune is really Tony Tallarico It's Tallarico inking and Bill Fraccio pencilling. Big Warren fan here; started reading them in '74 and was lucky enough to find many very early issues in a local used book shop in '75. A few years ago I met former Warren writer Budd Lewis. He was an interesting character. |
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Post by shaxper on Oct 27, 2016 17:35:27 GMT -5
Okay, favorite Warren writers and artists...GO!
Writer:
1. Budd Lewis
2. Bill DuBay
3. Doug Moench
Artist:
1. Corben
2. Ramon Torrents
3. Tom Sutton
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2016 17:52:45 GMT -5
My favourite Vampirella story from Warren, Death's Dark Angel. I also have a Harris comic which reprints it but in colour.  Loved 80s Eerie and Creepy, although I began to read these in the mid 90s. |
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Oct 27, 2016 18:11:49 GMT -5
My favourite Vampirella story from Warren, Death's Dark Angel. I also have a Harris comic which reprints it but in colour. Loved 80s Eerie and Creepy, although I began to read these in the mid 90s. Oh yes, that's a classic Vampirella issue for sure. The finest Vampi artist ever ,IMHO, Jose Gonzalez begins his run with this as Archie Goodwin's script finally gets the series to be a decent read |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2016 18:15:09 GMT -5
Favorite Warren writer: Archie Goodwin Favorite Warren Artists: Frazetta  Corben  Maroto  -M |
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Post by shaxper on Oct 27, 2016 18:43:16 GMT -5
Favorite Warren writer: Archie Goodwin Favorite Warren Artists: Frazetta I'd honestly forgotten that Frazetta ever did interior work for Warren. Consider me persuaded to change my list! |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2016 19:08:38 GMT -5
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Post by codystarbuck on Oct 28, 2016 1:00:22 GMT -5
I missed out on Warren; but, have since read Blazing Combat and some odds and ends. I've got it all on digital; but, I haven't begun to scratch the surface. Same with a lot of stuff, lot of content, not enough time to explore (EC, 2000 AD, Love & Rockets, vintage Blackhawk, etc, etc).
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