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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2014 14:17:44 GMT -5
Thought I'd add to my Marvel bad girls genre...Black Widow is already a known entity but Jane is kinda new (at least to me...). Has anyone read this? Circulation seems to have been very low...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2014 14:30:56 GMT -5
That Ghosts anthology from Vertigo contains Joe Kubert's last work. He pencilled the story but passed before he inked it, so they published it from the pencils.
-M
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2014 15:37:08 GMT -5
I haven't found Saga to be talking down to me, or be unnecessarily edgy. I find a couple panels of breast feeding far less "edgy" than a book (or series, or entire publishing catalog) where every female is a DD in body paint in fan service poses and camera angles.
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Post by Dizzy D on Aug 1, 2014 16:27:50 GMT -5
Painkiller Jane was a character created by Palmiotti and Quesada for their old company, before they were with Marvel.
Anybody know if the TV-series Painkiller Jane was based on it or just a coincidence in name?
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Post by dupersuper on Aug 1, 2014 20:26:48 GMT -5
Great idea, jez. I'd like to hear more about Saga. I hear from some people that it's the best comic ever, and others that it's severely overblown. Where do folks here weigh in? In the middle. I've read better, but it's very good.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Aug 1, 2014 22:05:25 GMT -5
Great idea, jez. I'd like to hear more about Saga. I hear from some people that it's the best comic ever, and others that it's severely overblown. Where do folks here weigh in? I find Saga to be overrated, like a majority of BKV's well received books. While he's a solid writer, there's that little hint of "I know more than you" in a majority of his titles that he needlessly crams into each book. In Ex-Machina and Y, there's those tidbits of facts that aren't quite related to the story but hits you on the head with this. It's what drew me away from enjoying Ex-Machina. I tried Saga, just didn't pull me in. His best work, IMO, is Pride of Baghdad. I thought Pride of Baghdad was terrible... overwritten over politicized tripe (though pretty art). Y definitely has that hipster smugness (which I don't like)... it works in Saga though. I liked Runaways the most of his work, I think.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Aug 1, 2014 22:07:27 GMT -5
I haven't found Saga to be talking down to me, or be unnecessarily edgy. I find a couple panels of breast feeding far less "edgy" than a book (or series, or entire publishing catalog) where every female is a DD in body paint in fan service poses and camera angles. I don't consider breast feeding edgy in the slightest.. it's more the gay sex scenes with full frontal nudity I was referring to.
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Aug 1, 2014 23:07:08 GMT -5
One of the series I did not sell off and am now beginning to read is Dynamite's Project Superheroes. I've finished Vol 1 (issues #1-7) and am reminded how I think Jim Krueger is a crappy writer. There's about 4 issues in this first volume where nothing happens except all these returning Golden Age public domain heroes are constantly fighting Frankenstein type creatures and keep repeating the same trite dialogue over and over.Krueger was a real struggle for me to read when he was doing those Marvel Universe X books (or whatever they were called).
I still have 14 issues of Super Powers Vol 2, 14 issues of The Black Terror, 4 issues of The Death Defying Devil (Golden Age Daredevil),and 4 issues of Masquerade and 4 issues of Meet The Bad Guys.Does it get any better or should I burn them?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2014 23:49:20 GMT -5
I still have 14 issues of Super Powers Vol 2, 14 issues of The Black Terror, 4 issues of The Death Defying Devil (Golden Age Daredevil),and 4 issues of Masquerade and 4 issues of Meet The Bad Guys.Does it get any better or should I burn them? Don't burn, let your inner zryson step out and donate them to charity or post them up here for someone. I was going to have a Rob Liefeld bonfire and instead gave those 2 copies of X-Force away to a delighted recipient (okay, he was only 4 years old but still....)
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Aug 1, 2014 23:59:39 GMT -5
I still have 14 issues of Super Powers Vol 2, 14 issues of The Black Terror, 4 issues of The Death Defying Devil (Golden Age Daredevil),and 4 issues of Masquerade and 4 issues of Meet The Bad Guys.Does it get any better or should I burn them? Don't burn, let your inner zryson step out and donate them to charity or post them up here for someone. I was going to have a Rob Liefeld bonfire and instead gave those 2 copies of X-Force away to a delighted recipient (okay, he was only 4 years old but still....) I'll try a few more and if that doesn't work I'll stick 'em in plain brown wrapping paper, dump them on a street corner and post the address here. Sorry, even the needy deserve better. Or the nerdy for that matter
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2014 0:33:23 GMT -5
I had completely forgotten about the gay sex scene. I guess not much shocks me, but I can see how that might have an impact on others. I don't think it was added to be shocking though. It was relevant to the plot twist it introduced. It could have been done with shadows and panel cuts, but if it's an adult audience I don't think it's necessary to self-censor. Reminds me of when someone brought up the shocking violence in From Hell. Sure, it was violent, but the story was going to be about a serial killer who targeted prostitutes no matter how they cleaned it up. The violence was not represented in an exaggerated fashion I don't think. I guess I see the sex scene the same way, it didn't stand out as shock value to me because a disproportionate amount of time wasn't dedicated to it and it wasn't made up of obvious masturbatory money shots. But like I said, it's worth noting for those who don't want to see it.
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Post by foxley on Aug 2, 2014 2:52:55 GMT -5
Painkiller Jane was a character created by Palmiotti and Quesada for their old company, before they were with Marvel. Anybody know if the TV-series Painkiller Jane was based on it or just a coincidence in name? The TV show is based on the comic but, not having read the comic, I cannot say how close to the comics it hews. Some comments I have read online suggest it may be a bit like Arrow or Witchblade: taking some the basic concepts but altering them to fit a new medium.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2014 7:37:55 GMT -5
The TV show is based on the comic but, not having read the comic, I cannot say how close to the comics it hews. Here's how it started on tv....I tried watching it on SyFy and it took more than the patience of Job to get through it...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2014 21:40:59 GMT -5
Same concept carried over from the classic board but relevant to more recent comics that you haven't read, and would like opinions on. First up, regular and variant cover to... I went back and reread this tonight as most of the stories just kind of disappeared from my brain. After re-reading it, there was a reason for this...the highlight here is definitely the art. Stories drawn by Cliff Chiang, Shawn McManus, Tula Lotay, Mark Buckingham and Ming Doyle make this a very good artistic endeavor. The stories however range from meh to forgettable for the most part. Mars to Stay and Rise are the best of the bunch. Fellow Travelers-a play on the Crucible and the McCarthy HUAC trials is a very interesting piece, but I think it needed more than the 8 pages it had to be effectively executed. Ther est were mostly jsut there on the page without making much impact on my head space. -M
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2014 17:48:03 GMT -5
Same concept carried over from the classic board but relevant to more recent comics that you haven't read, and would like opinions on. First up, regular and variant cover to... I went back and reread this tonight as most of the stories just kind of disappeared from my brain. After re-reading it, there was a reason for this...the highlight here is definitely the art. Stories drawn by Cliff Chiang, Shawn McManus, Tula Lotay, Mark Buckingham and Ming Doyle make this a very good artistic endeavor. The stories however range from meh to forgettable for the most part. Mars to Stay and Rise are the best of the bunch. Fellow Travelers-a play on the Crucible and the McCarthy HUAC trials is a very interesting piece, but I think it needed more than the 8 pages it had to be effectively executed. Ther est were mostly jsut there on the page without making much impact on my head space. -M Thanks, it's a bit disappointing that the stories don't resonate as I liked the classic series, along with the rest of the DC Horror/Thriller genre. I might still pick up a copy for the art if I get a good deal on it.
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