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Post by BigPapaJoe on Aug 29, 2016 6:13:33 GMT -5
Time travel. It's been the backbone of many fictional fantasies in many different times of mediums: literature, television, film, video games, etc. I'm sure everyone has thought about having or being in a type of situation where one could go back and change or at the very least observe the events of the past. Or maybe go forward into the unknown far beyond one's natural expiration.
I admit, I've always had a fascination with the past. Not so much the future. Perhaps because there are elements of my own life I'm not satisfied with and wish I could potentially alter. At the same time I'm such a fan of fictional stories involving this phenomena, that I'm not sure even if an opportunity presented it self where I could...I don't know if I should, even if I really, really wanted to. But it's such a fantastic scenario that I couldn't predict how I would able able to deal with it if it presented itself. Though I've had this daydream if going back to my youth into the body of my younger self with what I know now and changing a lot of things even if I had to exist from that point in the past onward...of course that would potentially screw a lot of things up. Hmm...would I have the courage to or not to go through with it? Obviously I'll never know, and it's probably dumb to speculate about such delusions, but alas here I am dragging others into my charade.
So...would you? The details aren't as important as the possibility of doing it in the first place, which is the point of this little chat...assuming it even gets off the ground.
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Post by Dizzy D on Aug 29, 2016 8:52:44 GMT -5
Depends on what posibilities/rules there are to the timetravel (interference possible? paradox/no paradox?).
If we're assuming the ability to observe, but not interfere and unlimited access to the whole of Earth time: I'm going Dinosaur spotting.
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Post by Prince Hal on Aug 29, 2016 9:17:39 GMT -5
April 18, 1946. To be the 51, 874th fan to witness Jackie Robinson break the color line as he makes his debut for the Montreal Royals against the Jersey City Giants: Roosevelt Field, Jersey City, NJ.
Jackie goes 4 for 5 with two bunt singles, a single to right, a three-run homer, two steals, four runs scored and four RBI. He also caused two balks, one when he bluffed a steal of home.
Jackie, Babe Ruth and Marvin Miller are the most important figures in baseball history.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2016 9:25:27 GMT -5
If I could go time traveling - I would like to start at year 1939 and ends in 1953 of where the Korean War ended in stalemate / truce as both North and South Korea because I find those years fascinating from my own perspective and see all the glamour of Hollywood Actresses on the Big Screen, Seeing Newsreels of Patton, Eisenhower, and Bradley (US Generals) and of course MacArthur too ... the granddaddy of them all. Seeing War Rations, Production Lines Humming, and the death of FDR and the rise of Harry Truman. List goes on, and on. I would not interfere at all and behave as a normal citizen and my life is extended another 14 years and I return back to 2016 ... 16 years older but my appearance hasn't changed a bit. That's my concept of time traveling at it's best.
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Post by shaxper on Aug 29, 2016 9:48:04 GMT -5
I would love to, provided:
1) I could return to the present without consequence (I'm not suddenly older for all the time I spent in the past)
2) My presence in the past would have no impact upon the present
3) I'd be immune from ancient diseases and able to speak ancient languages and dialects
4) I could look/sound the part to those with whom I interacted.
5) I'd have currency to spend.
I'm not much of a vacationer, but man I'd enjoy vacationing in the past. I think my favorite stop would be The Globe Theater for original Shakespeare performances, but there's just so much history worth seeing.
Heck, might be fun to spend a year in any-town middle-America in 1967 just so that I could be there, experiencing Marvel in its Silver Age heyday straight off the racks.
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Aug 29, 2016 10:52:28 GMT -5
I probably would want to be by the grassy knoll in Dallas in 1963 Spend 3 days at Woodstock in 1969, 2 days at Monterey in 1967 Attend the 1932 World Series game where The Babe called his homer
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Aug 29, 2016 11:11:34 GMT -5
Barring the kind of options that Shax spelled out above, the vast majority of my travels would center on the U.S. in the last 100 years or so and probably predominantly around music and sports to a lesser extent. I'd dearly love to see the classic Miles Davis Quintet at Birdland or Newport in the early 50s. Would love to have witnessed the Bristol session of Jimmie Rodgers and The Carter Family. Hank Williams, Buddy Holly, Sam Cooke and Otis Redding live.
I'd love to go to Super Bowl I, tickets for which were apparently cheap and plentiful.
Now if I have a universal translator, insta-recall and immunity from disease all bets are off.
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Post by BigPapaJoe on Aug 29, 2016 12:05:26 GMT -5
Anyone ever read Replay? I haven't yet, but from the premise that seems to be the only plausible way of time travel I could wrap my head around. Essentially if you're going to the past...you'd transfer your consciousness into your prior self. Like in the X-Men Days of Future Past film with Wolverine. It breaks down for me when you have yourself going back and a prior version of yourself already exists. Because if you kill your prior self, then you would die...but if you're dead you would be able to come back and kill your prior self in the first place. Or something.
Maybe it all makes sense in 4D.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Aug 29, 2016 12:12:11 GMT -5
Time travel. It's been the backbone of many fictional fantasies in many different times of mediums: literature, television, film, video games, etc. I'm sure everyone has thought about having or being in a type of situation where one could go back and change or at the very least observe the events of the past. Or maybe go forward into the unknown far beyond one's natural expiration. I admit, I've always had a fascination with the past. Not so much the future. Perhaps because there are elements of my own life I'm not satisfied with and wish I could potentially alter. At the same time I'm such a fan of fictional stories involving this phenomena, that I'm not sure even if an opportunity presented it self where I could...I don't know if I should, even if I really, really wanted to. But it's such a fantastic scenario that I couldn't predict how I would able able to deal with it if it presented itself. Though I've had this daydream if going back to my youth into the body of my younger self with what I know now and changing a lot of things even if I had to exist from that point in the past onward...of course that would potentially screw a lot of things up. Hmm...would I have the courage to or not to go through with it? Obviously I'll never know, and it's probably dumb to speculate about such delusions, but alas here I am dragging others into my charade. So...would you? The details aren't as important as the possibility of doing it in the first place, which is the point of this little chat...assuming it even gets off the ground. PapaShogun, have you read Jiro Taniguchi's distant neighbourhood? It shows that exact same situation. It's also a true masterpiece.
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Post by BigPapaJoe on Aug 29, 2016 12:13:54 GMT -5
Time travel. It's been the backbone of many fictional fantasies in many different times of mediums: literature, television, film, video games, etc. I'm sure everyone has thought about having or being in a type of situation where one could go back and change or at the very least observe the events of the past. Or maybe go forward into the unknown far beyond one's natural expiration. I admit, I've always had a fascination with the past. Not so much the future. Perhaps because there are elements of my own life I'm not satisfied with and wish I could potentially alter. At the same time I'm such a fan of fictional stories involving this phenomena, that I'm not sure even if an opportunity presented it self where I could...I don't know if I should, even if I really, really wanted to. But it's such a fantastic scenario that I couldn't predict how I would able able to deal with it if it presented itself. Though I've had this daydream if going back to my youth into the body of my younger self with what I know now and changing a lot of things even if I had to exist from that point in the past onward...of course that would potentially screw a lot of things up. Hmm...would I have the courage to or not to go through with it? Obviously I'll never know, and it's probably dumb to speculate about such delusions, but alas here I am dragging others into my charade. So...would you? The details aren't as important as the possibility of doing it in the first place, which is the point of this little chat...assuming it even gets off the ground. PapaShogun, have you read Iro Taniguchi's distant neighbourhood? It shows that exact same situation. It's also a true masterpiece. No, but thanks for sharing. I will gladly look into it
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Post by shaxper on Aug 29, 2016 13:03:40 GMT -5
Anyone ever read Replay? I haven't yet, but from the premise that seems to be the only plausible way of time travel I could wrap my head around. Essentially if you're going to the past...you'd transfer your consciousness into your prior self. Like in the X-Men Days of Future Past film with Wolverine. It breaks down for me when you have yourself going back and a prior version of yourself already exists. Because if you kill your prior self, then you would die...but if you're dead you would be able to come back and kill your prior self in the first place. Or something. Maybe it all makes sense in 4D. Another believable means of time travel (and a darn good story) is Time and Again, by Jack Finney.
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Post by Rob Allen on Aug 29, 2016 13:34:04 GMT -5
Transfer my consciousness to my prior self? Sure I would! I'd buy a share of Berkshire Hathaway stock as soon as I could. And some comics.
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Post by Prince Hal on Aug 29, 2016 13:39:15 GMT -5
Anyone ever read Replay? I haven't yet, but from the premise that seems to be the only plausible way of time travel I could wrap my head around. Essentially if you're going to the past...you'd transfer your consciousness into your prior self. Like in the X-Men Days of Future Past film with Wolverine. It breaks down for me when you have yourself going back and a prior version of yourself already exists. Because if you kill your prior self, then you would die...but if you're dead you would be able to come back and kill your prior self in the first place. Or something. Maybe it all makes sense in 4D. Another believable means of time travel (and a darn good story) is Time and Again, by Jack Finney. A wonder-filled story. I'm putting on my re-read soon list.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Aug 29, 2016 14:17:27 GMT -5
An excellent novel using that theme is Ken Grimwood's Replay. Highly recommended. The protagonist finds that when he dies, his mind is sent back to his teenage body (with full knowledge of what his entire life has been). As most of us would, with his adult self-assurance and knowledge, he changes a few things : get the High School hot babe, make a fortune on the stock market, that kind of thing. Eventually he gets old in his new life and dies again, only to find himself back again... only not quite as young as the first time. He then goes through many cycles of such reincarnations, each time coming back to a moment set a little later in his life. As you'd expect, some of the changes he made had repercussions, and not his new lives were all that happy; each time he gets a new chance, he tries not to make the same mistakes. At some point he discovers that he's not the only person to whom that happens. Naturally, he starts to worry about what will happen when he reincarnates so late in his life that he'll just be a few hours from dying again... Both my wife and I devoured that novel (basically stealing it from each other's hands). It's a really clever idea, with great execution.
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Aug 29, 2016 22:00:13 GMT -5
The only time I think about time travel is if I could make the conscious choice to go back and change decisions in my life without retaining that knowledge of the present. Do I think I got married and had kids too early? Yes. Would I change it if it meant meeting a different woman and not having my sons as I know them? No.
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