Post by Roquefort Raider on Jun 16, 2023 7:19:35 GMT -5
After seeing all the favourable comments here, I bought the first season on DVD. I only saw the first episode, but found it pretty good.
The cast meshes quite well, and without trying to emulate the old dynamic of TOS or TNG manages to create its own. Black Bolt as Captain Pike is quite convincing, and the guy playing Spock does a pretty good job despite the size of the shoes he has to fill.
The bridge looks awesome. The updated uniforms are a great mix of nostalgia and current fashions.
Chapel and Uhura had more things to do here than in most of the three original seasons of TOS!
Good, optimistic message very much in the Star Trek original philosophy.
This is a lost battle, I know, but I really dislike the video game aesthetics so common to modern visual science-fiction. The ships, planets and space vistas look colourful and exciting, but they don't look like ships, planets and space vistas. 2001: A Space Odyssey had more convincing imagery, and by far.
I'm not keen on the idea of Pike knowing what's in store for him.
Already too much incestuous plot lines and coincidences making the universe smaller. Samuel Kirk served on the Enterprise? Gah.
The Vulcans... It's not difficult to write to play a Vulcan right, in my opinion. They must appear either emotionless, or very much in control of their emotions. To many actors, it's interpreted as having Vulcans act annoyed most of the time, like grownups having a hard time tolerating the antics of immature children. (Other actors in the past, mostly in minor roles, just didn't seem to be aware of the Vulcans' nature; they played them as ordinary humans with funny ears). I thought that everyone involved in Amok Time, way back when, had found just the right tone; in this first episode of Strange New Worlds, however, Vulcans act more prissy than logical. Furthermore, I really much preferred their "finger kiss" to the ordinary kind displayed here; it looked alien, formal and endearing at the same time; a moment of intimacy that was all intellect and no hormones.
Could go either way :
I dislike retcons, but with shows set earlier in the Trek universe they are almost unavoidable. That being said, there are enough little discrepancies now to convince me that this series (and Discovery, from what I've seen) are set in a slightly different timeline than that of TOS, TNG and DS9. So the continuity purist in me can just enjoy the show and not mind if Spock suddenly has a human sister, if the Gorn were known years before Arena, or if the Enterprise looks way more modern under Pike than it did under Kirk.
Overall impression : pretty good, actually, and I look forward to more episodes.
Post by sunofdarkchild on Jun 18, 2023 13:32:28 GMT -5
Episode 1 is mostly good, but I feel like the writers really don't get Spock. At this point in his life he should be the most by-the-book person in Starfleet and the most Vulcan Vulcan who ever Vulcanned. The only thing that made him different from other Vulcans was that he chose to go into Starfleet, but he had a chip on his shoulder from the way he was treated as a half-human to be as close to the Vulcan ideal as it was possible to be. Calling him abnormal for a Vulcan is the biggest insult anyone could possibly give him. It's specifically through his time as Kirk's first officer that he learns to embrace his human side to an extent and that there is more to life than rigid logic. But going by Strange New Worlds he just gave up trying to be a good Vulcan years before TOS and was more of a rule-breaking maverick who did things his own way than Kirk ever was, so there's no character arc to be had in TOS or the movies since he's already at his endpoint before he even starts. The JJ Abrams movies got Spock right far more than Strange New Worlds does. And the way they got the Spock-Chapel relationship backwards also rubs me the wrong way.
I don't care so much about the Gorn retcons, the Klingon retcons, or most of the other retcons. But I do care that Spock is a completely different character from the character Leonard Nimoy portrayed.
Post by Roquefort Raider on Jun 19, 2023 10:58:32 GMT -5
After a few episodes of Strange New Worlds, I note that the good old Star Trek tradition of nonsensical technobabble is maintained.
The mere proximity of a genetically modified human causes the production of chimeric antibodies against alien diseases in our system? By Newton, it's a good thing that a reversed flow of tetryon particles didn't also cause the polymerization of our molecular DNA's lymphocytes! It might have caused the collapse of a CRISPER-Cas wave function!
I still haven't been able to bring myself to try any of these new Star Trek shows or movies with different actors playing younger versions of Uhura, Spock, Scotty, etc. I suppose because it's happened so late in the day from my POV as someone who grew up with the old show that I just can't imagine enjoying those characters in any other way. In contrast to a character like James Bond that already had several different incarnations by the time I became aware of it.
I might be able to overlook that issue long enough to at least look at something if I heard anything else that made it sound attractive but so far nothing has drawn me in. The only thing they have going for them is their connection with the original series and since I get the impression (rightly or wrongly) that there isn't much real connection, I don't feel any incentive to watch. Maybe one day I'll try something, whether on purpose or by accident, and find that I like it after all - which is what happened to me with the Next Generation after ignoring it the first few years.
Episode 2 of Strange New Worlds continues Star Trek history of courtroom episodes. Also a nice way to add to Number One backstory and make her more 3 dimensional. Again had the good old school feel of the original series.