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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2017 22:09:57 GMT -5
"The Dimensional Caper!"
Is one of my favorite Haney/Cardy Stories and I just find the layouts and story itself quite good and loved the action in this story; unfortunately I've only read the story from a friend of mine back in my College Days and fell instantly in love and I remembered the cover and it's was cool and different. I'm having a hard time remembering the story but I did enjoyed it and I consider it one of Haney's better stories.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2017 15:46:44 GMT -5
The Dimensional Caper is a fast-paced favorite. One of the most inventive and fun covers from the Silver Age as well. If I were writing the book and Cardy was my artist, you bet he'd have free reign!
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Post by shaxper on Jan 11, 2017 9:02:08 GMT -5
The Dimensional Caper is a fast-paced favorite. One of the most inventive and fun covers from the Silver Age as well. If I were writing the book and Cardy was my artist, you bet he'd have free reign! Don't forget Gaspar Saladino's contributions here. While what he does on that cover is subtle, it's also quite clever. Since the logo was shattered on the cover of Teen Titans #15, Saladino spends the next three issues toying with new logos that compliment Cardy's artwork before choosing a new permanent logo for the title. His choice this issue doesn't stand out precisely because it looks like a typical book cover font, but his genius and the synergy between his lettering and Cardy's art becomes a lot more apparent on the covers of the next two issues. I'd post scans of these, but I'm at work and the only images not blocked here are from wiki pages (which @razormaid will yell at me for hot linking  ). |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2017 9:07:28 GMT -5
Absolutely! Saladino knocked it out of the park. My all time favorite Titans logo is the one they started using around #19 I believe. In "Titans", all of the letters were capitalized except the I. The logo was kind of slanted. I always thought it was cool looking.
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Post by shaxper on Jan 11, 2017 9:09:39 GMT -5
Absolutely! Saladino knocked it out of the park. My all time favorite Titans logo is the one they started using around #19 I believe. In "Titans", all of the letters were capitalized except the I. The logo was kind of slanted. I always thought it was cool looking. Agreed. And when they add that border alongside the left side with the Titans roster it becomes a feast for the eyes. I was always upset that they didn't include Mal in that lineup (we know why), but otherwise seeing those covers just makes me happy. And, as far as Saladino goes, his lettering on next issue's cover is some of the most stunning work I've ever seen a letterer achieve on a cover. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2017 12:06:32 GMT -5
YES!!! I loved the border down the side with Robin, Wonder Girl, Kid Flash, and Speedy! So awesome! Would have been nice to get Mal and Lilith in there too, but I guess the main 4 were more of a selling point? And I am guessing some retailers would freak out seeing Mal there. I remember reading an article about a very innocent kiss shared by Lilith and Mal in Titans 26 or 27 (I think it's 27) and DC was afraid it would cause a problem. Nick Cardy slipped it in there anyway! Go Nick!
There is a Super Team Family from 1976 I think and there is a 2 or 3 page section showing who was who in the Titans up to that point. The art used down the side from the later Titans issues is enlarged and included in the section.
Teen Titans may have been cheesy but it certainly is a visual stunner most of the time. Love the atmospheric and spooky covers that come up later in the series.
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Post by shaxper on Jan 11, 2017 12:33:55 GMT -5
YES!!! I loved the border down the side with Robin, Wonder Girl, Kid Flash, and Speedy! So awesome! Would have been nice to get Mal and Lilith in there too, but I guess the main 4 were more of a selling point? And I am guessing some retailers would freak out seeing Mal there. I remember reading an article about a very innocent kiss shared by Lilith and Mal in Titans 26 or 27 (I think it's 27) and DC was afraid it would cause a problem. Nick Cardy slipped it in there anyway! Go Nick! We're not that many issues away from the story that proved just how racist DC editorial could be. Mal's exclusion from the covers was definitely NOT an accident. Lilith I am less sure about. Those last few horror-genre issues from the series are my absolute favorites. In fact, I ranked the final issue as my third favorite horror story of all time in The CCF Long Halloween 2014. |
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Post by Farrar on Jan 11, 2017 16:10:26 GMT -5
YES!!! I loved the border down the side with Robin, Wonder Girl, Kid Flash, and Speedy! So awesome! Would have been nice to get Mal and Lilith in there too, but I guess the main 4 were more of a selling point? I think this is likely the case here, mrj--the four characters who wore typical superhero costumes were spotlighted as they were the ones more superhero comic book readers would be familiar with (especially useful when the team temporarily abandoned the superhero longjohns in favor of utilitarian Secret Six-like garb for a brief time). But in terms of the scene depicted on the covers: as shaxper and mrjupiter noted, during that run except for TT #32, if Mal's not totally missing on the cover, he's in the background or obscured. Speaking of the Secret Six (1968-1969 DC series), that book had no problem including an African-American character on its covers. Harvey's Little Audrey didn't have that problem either; see a couple of examples below from 1963 (although there also a few covers on which Tiny seems to have been miscolored so he has the same skin color as Little Audrey).   |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2017 16:30:15 GMT -5
Not to get ahead of the reviews, but some of my all-time favorite Teen Titans stories are coming up. Later is the series, Lilith does become more prominent on the covers and stories.
I love issue #34! There's an issue later too where Mal is the focus of the story--dealing with the ghost of a slave master. I have a complete run of the original Teen Titans along with other comics they appeared in at the time. I purchased the first omnibus and am going to order the next one with the bronze age stories. The logos, the costumes, the art....very cool all the way around. I think Lilith rode the wave of popularity due to the public's fascination with ESP in the late 60s/early 70s.
Great thread that has brought back some wonderful memories, even though I didn't come along until 1972, haha! I remember going to the comics store and slowly completing my original Titans collection. I felt so happy when I had finally tracked every issue down!
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Post by Farrar on Jan 11, 2017 16:40:12 GMT -5
In an earlier post re Teen Titans #15, shaxper wrote:"Could it be that the publisher was finally moving away from the idea that their target audience was a 12 year old boy living in Dayton Ohio? Maybe they were finally noticing the amount of readers Marvel was picking up by catering to a somewhat older audience..."In a word: yes. In the mid 1960s Stan Lee tried to hire Carmine Infantino away from DC, and DC countered by promoting Infantino to art director.Then, when DC's ownership changed, Infantino became DC's editorial director circa late 1967 and started the ball rolling. Among other things, Infantino knew DC had to change its approach and appeal not only to the older reader (as Marvel had been doing) but also strive to keep readers invested in characters' growth. In other words there was a new focus on reader retention instead of automatic audience turnover; comics could be more than disposable entertainment. Infantino shook up DC's status quo by bringing in Giordano from Charlton and promoted several artists including Sekowsky, Orlando and Kubert to editors. Many DC books and characters underwent changes under Infantino's auspices. |
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Post by shaxper on Jan 11, 2017 16:49:30 GMT -5
There's an issue later too where Mal is the focus of the story--dealing with the ghost of a slave master. GREAT story. Surprisingly progressive considering how reluctant editors were to even include an African American hero in the title only a short time earlier. Try 1989! I discovered these through the back issue bin  |
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Post by shaxper on Jan 11, 2017 16:50:44 GMT -5
In the mid 1960s Stan Lee tried to hire Carmine Infantino away from DC, and DC countered by promoting Infantino to art director.Then, when DC's ownership changed, Infantino became DC's editorial director circa late 1967 and started the ball rolling. Among other things, Infantino knew DC had to change its approach and appeal not only to the older reader (as Marvel had been doing) but also strive to keep readers invested in characters' growth. In other words there was a new focus on reader retention instead of automatic audience turnover; comics could be more than disposable entertainment. Infantino shook up DC's status quo by bringing in Giordano from Charlton and promoted several artists including Sekowsky, Orlando and Kubert to editors. Many DC books and characters underwent changes under Infantino's auspices. This is fantastic info. Thank you! |
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Post by Farrar on Jan 11, 2017 16:58:24 GMT -5
^^^^ Thank you, shaxper , for the beautifully written and always thought-provoking posts/analyses. |
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Post by shaxper on Jan 11, 2017 17:17:09 GMT -5
^^^^ Thank you, shaxper , for the beautifully written and always thought-provoking posts/analyses. The replies are what make it fun, Farrar  |
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jan 11, 2017 17:23:53 GMT -5
^^^^ Thank you, shaxper , for the beautifully written and always thought-provoking posts/analyses. The replies are what make it fun, Farrar Shax...I don't know if you can find a copy of Twomorrow's Comic Book Artist #1, but there's a long interview with Infantino in it that talks about the changes he made at DC and particularly the "Artist as Editor" movement that brought in Giordano and moved up Kubert and Orlando as editors. |
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