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Post by lobsterjohnson on Apr 29, 2016 11:04:41 GMT -5
Who else here has read The Doom that Came to Gotham? What did you think of it? It’s one of my favorite Batman stories (not surprising, considering Mike Mignola is one of my favorite writers). It was out of print for a while, but DC finally released a collection last December, meaning I finally got to read it (yay!). I was very impressed with the story. Most of my favorite Batman stories are elseworlds tales, and this one really embraced the fact that this universe is very different from the regular DCU. Seeing the Lovecraftian spin put on many familiar Batman characters was really neat. I liked Batman's personality in this story; it reminded me of both Hellboy and Lobster Johnson. He also does some actual detective work, which is absent in many modern stories. SPOILERS COMING UP; BEWARE (I can't seem to get the spoiler tags to work today). I think the last page, with Batman as the transformed Man-Bat creature (“And God help you all if you ever again have need of me”) is one of the best endings I’ve ever seen in a comic. The last panel is drawn extremely well. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2016 13:49:53 GMT -5
I bought the first issue when it came out but went on a hiatus shortly afterwards and never got 2 or 3. A few months back the library got the trade in so I finally got to read it. It was good, not great. It was interesting but at times formulaic and predictable if you are familiar with the Lovecraftian oeuvre. The best tales in the Lovecraftian tradition bring something new, and this one didn't. The art was great, the story was solid, but ultimately it is a forgettable story imo.
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Post by foxley on Apr 29, 2016 18:49:26 GMT -5
I definitely enjoyed it, and the creative team did a good job of capturing the Lovecraftian atmosphere.
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Post by thwhtguardian on Apr 29, 2016 19:26:28 GMT -5
I bought the first issue when it came out but went on a hiatus shortly afterwards and never got 2 or 3. A few months back the library got the trade in so I finally got to read it. It was good, not great. It was interesting but at times formulaic and predictable if you are familiar with the Lovecraftian oeuvre. The best tale sin the Lovecraftian tradition bring something new, and this one didn't. The art was great, the story wa ssolid, but ultimately it is a forgettable story imo. -M It is a little rote if you're familiar with Lovecraft's work but as a primer for the uninitiated it's very a very accessible and exciting story. And I agree Lobster, that ending was fantastic! My only complaint is that I wish Mike had done the art on it too! |
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Apr 29, 2016 19:43:14 GMT -5
I bought the first issue when it came out but went on a hiatus shortly afterwards and never got 2 or 3. A few months back the library got the trade in so I finally got to read it. It was good, not great. It was interesting but at times formulaic and predictable if you are familiar with the Lovecraftian oeuvre. The best tale sin the Lovecraftian tradition bring something new, and this one didn't. The art was great, the story wa ssolid, but ultimately it is a forgettable story imo. -M It is a little rote if you're familiar with Lovecraft's work but as a primer for the uninitiated it's very a very accessible and exciting story. And I agree Lobster, that ending was fantastic! My only complaint is that I wish Mike had done the art on it too! Looking at Lone Star's synopsis I am not sure, not knowing the interior artist, I want to read it if Mr Mignola only did the covers. |
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Post by lobsterjohnson on Apr 29, 2016 21:26:24 GMT -5
It is a little rote if you're familiar with Lovecraft's work but as a primer for the uninitiated it's very a very accessible and exciting story. And I agree Lobster, that ending was fantastic! My only complaint is that I wish Mike had done the art on it too! Looking at Lone Star's synopsis I am not sure, not knowing the interior artist, I want to read it if Mr Mignola only did the covers. Troy Nixey did the art (someone else did the inks, I think, but I can't remember who). The art is good throughout, although a few panels of facial expressions look kinda strange. Overall though, the art is very good. I don't know who designed Batmn's costume for this story, but it is a really cool design. |
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Post by thwhtguardian on Apr 30, 2016 8:07:35 GMT -5
It is a little rote if you're familiar with Lovecraft's work but as a primer for the uninitiated it's very a very accessible and exciting story. And I agree Lobster, that ending was fantastic! My only complaint is that I wish Mike had done the art on it too! Looking at Lone Star's synopsis I am not sure, not knowing the interior artist, I want to read it if Mr Mignola only did the covers. Oh, don't let it scare you off Troy Nixey is really good...I just like Mignola better!  |
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Apr 30, 2016 12:40:31 GMT -5
That does look nice. Not Mr Mignola nice but it does seem a style similar to his.
And I agree about the costume design. Reminds me of Gotham By Gaslight.
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Post by thwhtguardian on May 8, 2016 13:54:57 GMT -5
That does look nice. Not Mr Mignola nice but it does seem a style similar to his. And I agree about the costume design. Reminds me of Gotham By Gaslight. In my head it's the end of the Bruce Wayne from Gaslight's career as Batman but he is succeeded in the role by another in JSA: Liberty File |
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on May 9, 2016 8:59:28 GMT -5
That does look nice. Not Mr Mignola nice but it does seem a style similar to his. And I agree about the costume design. Reminds me of Gotham By Gaslight. In my head it's the end of the Bruce Wayne from Gaslight's career as Batman but he is succeeded in the role by another in JSA: Liberty File Is this suppose to be a Victorian Age tale too? |
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Post by thwhtguardian on May 9, 2016 10:08:02 GMT -5
In my head it's the end of the Bruce Wayne from Gaslight's career as Batman but he is succeeded in the role by another in JSA: Liberty File Is this suppose to be a Victorian Age tale too? No, the Liberty File takes place in the days leading up to WWII, so the Victorian Bruce slumbers after Doom only to have another discover his cave and take up the cowl at the start of the war. If you're looking for another Victorian age Batman tale Batman: Nevermore fits the bill, features a similar costume to Gaslight and has Batman team up with Edgar Allen Poe. |
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on May 9, 2016 10:22:20 GMT -5
Is this suppose to be a Victorian Age tale too? No, the Liberty File takes place in the days leading up to WWII, so the Victorian Bruce slumbers after Doom only to have another discover his cave and take up the cowl at the start of the war. If you're looking for another Victorian age Batman tale Batman: Nevermore fits the bill, features a similar costume to Gaslight and has Batman team up with Edgar Allen Poe. That's what I meant, was Doom a Victorian Age Batman story too? I still haven't been to the library, but will add this to the list to check along with some other stuff I have been suggested here. I had to look up Liberty File. I had never heard of that one before, but looks interesting. The Elseworld style Batman stories are among my favorites of any Batman. I have Nevermore. Before Batman even, Poe was a huge favorite of mine, and except only Bukowski one of the few poets I can enjoy. Though as in both of their cases I prefer their stories over poetry. |
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Post by lobsterjohnson on May 9, 2016 11:10:10 GMT -5
I've never read Nevermore, but it sounds really interesting. And it has Guy Davis art!
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Post by thwhtguardian on May 10, 2016 9:40:12 GMT -5
No, the Liberty File takes place in the days leading up to WWII, so the Victorian Bruce slumbers after Doom only to have another discover his cave and take up the cowl at the start of the war. If you're looking for another Victorian age Batman tale Batman: Nevermore fits the bill, features a similar costume to Gaslight and has Batman team up with Edgar Allen Poe. That's what I meant, was Doom a Victorian Age Batman story too? I still haven't been to the library, but will add this to the list to check along with some other stuff I have been suggested here. I had to look up Liberty File. I had never heard of that one before, but looks interesting. The Elseworld style Batman stories are among my favorites of any Batman. I have Nevermore. Before Batman even, Poe was a huge favorite of mine, and except only Bukowski one of the few poets I can enjoy. Though as in both of their cases I prefer their stories over poetry. Doom has a kind of steam punk style to it that makes it feel victorian without giving a specific date so I think it fits. I've never read Nevermore, but it sounds really interesting. And it has Guy Davis art! Yeah, Davis' art is fantastic there too so you'll love it! |
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Post by foxley on May 10, 2016 17:15:44 GMT -5
I always read Doom as vaguely Edwardian, but it could just as readily be Victorian. It's just to me the Lovecraft elements fit better in the Edwardian period (the burgeoning 20th century versus creatures older than time).
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