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Post by urrutiap on Apr 28, 2016 21:05:31 GMT -5
Well ok but you or whoever else was assuming Swarm was introduced in the stupid Squirrel Girl comic. I was correcting them about it.
I still do think Marvel got ruined due to the whole Squirrel Girl character. ive heard about the stuff over these past few years where Squirrel Girl could probably defeat a cosmisc character like Eternity or even Silver Surfer etc.
Thats how bad Marvel has gotten not just with their treatment of X Men. Theres not even any new Fantastic Four at all. because of Sony, Fox, Disney and Marvel all in a stupid piss war contest battle over characters
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2016 21:10:14 GMT -5
Well ok but you or whoever else was assuming Swarm was introduced in the stupid Squirrel Girl comic. I was correcting them about it. I still do think Marvel got ruined due to the whole Squirrel Girl character. ive heard about the stuff over these past few years where Squirrel Girl could probably defeat a cosmisc character like Eternity or even Silver Surfer etc. Thats how bad Marvel has gotten not just with their treatment of X Men. Theres not even any new Fantastic Four at all. because of Sony, Fox, Disney and Marvel all in a stupid piss war contest battle over characters There's no FF comic now because it didn't sell well enough. Fox owns the X-Men yet there are plenty of X-Men comics out there currently. IF FF had sold as well as X-Men, there'd still be an FF comic too. But it wasn't selling, so it was low hanging fruit to try to tweak Fox. If it had been a money maker, it would still be out there. And no one claimed that Swarm was introduced in Squirrel Girl, just that he was currently appearing in the book. -M |
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Apr 28, 2016 21:25:33 GMT -5
I could think of dozens of reasons why I don't support Marvel comics any longer. But Squirrel Girl? The reason why it is "ruined"?
Marvel survived many bad characters, bad writers and artists, bad editors,bad story ideas, bad corporate decisions like being their own distributor, bankruptcy, Ron Perlman and on and on. But alas, it met it's match with Squirrel Girl.
Nothing a little dab of pudding can't fix
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Post by shaxper on Apr 28, 2016 23:44:04 GMT -5
I could think of dozens of reasons why I don't support Marvel comics any longer. But Squirrel Girl? The reason why it is "ruined"? Marvel survived many bad characters, bad writers and artists, bad editors,bad story ideas, bad corporate decisions like being their own distributor, bankruptcy, Ron Perlman and on and on. But alas, it met it's match with Squirrel Girl. Nothing a little dab of pudding can't fix |
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Apr 28, 2016 23:57:53 GMT -5
I could think of dozens of reasons why I don't support Marvel comics any longer. But Squirrel Girl? The reason why it is "ruined"? Marvel survived many bad characters, bad writers and artists, bad editors,bad story ideas, bad corporate decisions like being their own distributor, bankruptcy, Ron Perlman and on and on. But alas, it met it's match with Squirrel Girl. Nothing a little dab of pudding can't fix Needs to be shared. Consider this a cross-over event with The Wide World Of Pudding Thread |
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Post by Batflunkie on Apr 29, 2016 6:47:17 GMT -5
I could think of dozens of reasons why I don't support Marvel comics any longer. But Squirrel Girl? The reason why it is "ruined"? Marvel survived many bad characters, bad writers and artists, bad editors,bad story ideas, bad corporate decisions like being their own distributor, bankruptcy, Ron Perlman and on and on. But alas, it met it's match with Squirrel Girl. What can you say other than "people love a scapegoat?" I mean there are still some out there that won't touch anything Image related with a 40 foot pole because they're under the uninformed impression that Image caused the comic book crash |
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Post by Action Ace on Apr 29, 2016 18:57:49 GMT -5
DC sales for March 2016Pay particular attention to the sales on Batman and Superman with the opaque "lottery" polybagged covers. Also pay attention to the sales of the comics that had no variant cover at all. Again I ask, are we selling comics or variant covers?
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Post by dupersuper on Apr 29, 2016 20:03:31 GMT -5
I still do think Marvel got ruined due to the whole Squirrel Girl character. ive heard about the stuff over these past few years where Squirrel Girl could probably defeat a cosmisc character like Eternity or even Silver Surfer etc. I like how you say that like Silver Surfer's more powerful than Eternity... |
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Post by dupersuper on Apr 29, 2016 20:05:01 GMT -5
I could think of dozens of reasons why I don't support Marvel comics any longer. But Squirrel Girl? The reason why it is "ruined"? Marvel survived many bad characters, bad writers and artists, bad editors,bad story ideas, bad corporate decisions like being their own distributor, bankruptcy, Ron Perlman and on and on. But alas, it met it's match with Squirrel Girl. What can you say other than "people love a scapegoat?" I mean there are still some out there that won't touch anything Image related with a 40 foot pole because they're under the uninformed impression that Image caused the comic book crash That's so sad. I'm getting half the current Image books in trade; they've been killin' it. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2016 23:09:09 GMT -5
DC sales for March 2016Pay particular attention to the sales on Batman and Superman with the opaque "lottery" polybagged covers. Also pay attention to the sales of the comics that had no variant cover at all. Again I ask, are we selling comics or variant covers? They're selling what people are buying. The polybagged variants sell to end customers, so they order enough of them to generate the revenue that monthly comics are not generating for them. Sad, but the retailers can't order what they are not selling because all the risk is on them, not on Diamond or the publishers. Our store in town just announced this week that it is closing after a 7 year run. He did not do much with variants as his customer base didn't buy them, and his volume kept dwindling. DC was his best selling publisher when the new52 launched. It was barely #2 by the time he made his announcement to close. I don't think this will be the last shop closing over the next few years. Smaller stores that don't get variant traffic are not moving enough monthly units to be viable in a lot of cases. -M |
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Post by Icctrombone on Apr 30, 2016 5:56:30 GMT -5
DC sales for March 2016Pay particular attention to the sales on Batman and Superman with the opaque "lottery" polybagged covers. Also pay attention to the sales of the comics that had no variant cover at all. Again I ask, are we selling comics or variant covers? They're selling what people are buying. The polybagged variants sell to end customers, so they order enough of them to generate the revenue that monthly comics are not generating for them. Sad, but the retailers can't order what they are not selling because all the risk is on them, not on Diamond or the publishers. Our store in town just announced this week that it is closing after a 7 year run. He did not do much with variants as his customer base didn't buy them, and his volume kept dwindling. DC was his best selling publisher when the new52 launched. It was barely #2 by the time he made his announcement to close. I don't think this will be the last shop closing over the next few years. Smaller stores that don't get variant traffic are not moving enough monthly units to be viable in a lot of cases. -M I think that comics will disappear in 10 years to be replaced by Graphic novels, the way Love and Rockets releases their new stories. |
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Apr 30, 2016 8:12:33 GMT -5
They're selling what people are buying. The polybagged variants sell to end customers, so they order enough of them to generate the revenue that monthly comics are not generating for them. Sad, but the retailers can't order what they are not selling because all the risk is on them, not on Diamond or the publishers. Our store in town just announced this week that it is closing after a 7 year run. He did not do much with variants as his customer base didn't buy them, and his volume kept dwindling. DC was his best selling publisher when the new52 launched. It was barely #2 by the time he made his announcement to close. I don't think this will be the last shop closing over the next few years. Smaller stores that don't get variant traffic are not moving enough monthly units to be viable in a lot of cases. -M I think that comics will disappear in 10 years to be replaced by Graphic novels, the way Love and Rockets releases their new stories. I view that as likely. There will probably always be traditional comics, never-ending sagas published monthly, just as there are still soap operas. But the market will open more and more to other ways of telling stories, with graphic novels and short runs being the equivalent of Netflix or HBO series. Distribution will also become more varied, I'm sure, and not be mostly dependent on LCS. |
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Post by Arthur Gordon Scratch on Apr 30, 2016 8:24:35 GMT -5
On a funny parallel, as you're more or less describing Euopean comics with where you think US comics will be in ten years, I wonder how similar this will be with football : Seems like north american audiences are starting to warm up to the most popular sport in the world, so maybe in ten years... wwho knows  |
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Apr 30, 2016 20:49:46 GMT -5
They're selling what people are buying. The polybagged variants sell to end customers, so they order enough of them to generate the revenue that monthly comics are not generating for them. Sad, but the retailers can't order what they are not selling because all the risk is on them, not on Diamond or the publishers. Our store in town just announced this week that it is closing after a 7 year run. He did not do much with variants as his customer base didn't buy them, and his volume kept dwindling. DC was his best selling publisher when the new52 launched. It was barely #2 by the time he made his announcement to close. I don't think this will be the last shop closing over the next few years. Smaller stores that don't get variant traffic are not moving enough monthly units to be viable in a lot of cases. -M I think that comics will disappear in 10 years to be replaced by Graphic novels, the way Love and Rockets releases their new stories. I think they're going back to publishing comics.  As it stands they're trying to sell graphic novels twice which isn't the best publishing strategy. (I...uh... buy everything, in every possible format. So it's working on me!) |
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Post by Icctrombone on Apr 30, 2016 21:28:06 GMT -5
I think that comics will disappear in 10 years to be replaced by Graphic novels, the way Love and Rockets releases their new stories. I think they're going back to publishing comics. As it stands they're trying to sell graphic novels twice which isn't the best publishing strategy. (I...uh... buy everything, in every possible format. So it's working on me!) Years ago Jim Starlin released a Original Graphic novel called Kid Cosmos and it was a book originally intended to be a 6 issue mini. Maybe it's the way to go in the future. |
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As it stands they're trying to sell graphic novels twice which isn't the best publishing strategy.