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Post by impulse on Aug 7, 2015 13:43:05 GMT -5
Oh, man, I disagree. He is more of an absurd comedic character than pointless jackass. He is a sarcastic ass, yes, like a twisted Spider Man, but he's also completely insane. I think he has three voices that compete in his head. It's like an R-rated zany cartoon character in the MU. Lot's of breaking the 3rd(is it 4th?) wall. Gail Simone wrote him best, IMO, but Daniel Way did a pretty good job until he got over exposed. I haven't followed him the last few years, but I've dropped most X-Books, so can't say. In any case, I legitimately laughed a few times at the trailer, so I might go see it.
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Aug 7, 2015 13:59:49 GMT -5
But comedy could be/can be pointless. Like, again of what I've read, I've never felt like he's had a pertinent place in the Marvel Universe other than comedy relief. And that's okay, in that comedy relief is good, when it's just that. But I think of what I've seen recently that pertinent place for him is now an absurd fourth wall (not third, dunno what I was thinking lol) breaking character. Jacka$$ was used more in the way of the character's actions like in the movie of the same name, not a negative slur, which I should have explained. That type of behavior in even a fictional character runs dry fast for me. It's why comedy, I guess in every medium, is different for every body. I can laugh again and again watching Dumb and Dumber, but movies like Hangover, Due Date, Borat ... I guess anything Todd Phillips apparently, or Zach Galifianakis, just isn't funny. I guess they're both "stupid" comedies, but within there is something different.
If I can find a TPB, as I am sure issues are just as ridiculously priced as the first series, I will give Daniel Way's take a try.
(I also did take your suggestion, I think it was yours, on Clerks 2, I just haven't got it in the mail from Netflix yet, so I still trust your opinion.) ;-)
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Post by impulse on Aug 7, 2015 15:59:25 GMT -5
LOL, all good. I hope you enjoy Clerks 2, then! I think the wife and I are going to see Ant Man tonight. I was almost slightly interested in Fantastic Four, but reviews suggest it's a festering turd. Again.
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Post by Rob Allen on Aug 7, 2015 17:26:08 GMT -5
fourth wall (not third, dunno what I was thinking lol In the theater, where the performers and sets are three-dimensional, "fourth wall" makes sense. Comics are two-dimensional, so you could make a case for "third wall" being the comics equivalent. At least that's what I thought you meant. |
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Post by Dizzy D on Aug 8, 2015 1:09:19 GMT -5
But comedy could be/can be pointless. Like, again of what I've read, I've never felt like he's had a pertinent place in the Marvel Universe other than comedy relief. And that's okay, in that comedy relief is good, when it's just that. But I think of what I've seen recently that pertinent place for him is now an absurd fourth wall (not third, dunno what I was thinking lol) breaking character. Jacka$$ was used more in the way of the character's actions like in the movie of the same name, not a negative slur, which I should have explained. That type of behavior in even a fictional character runs dry fast for me. It's why comedy, I guess in every medium, is different for every body. I can laugh again and again watching Dumb and Dumber, but movies like Hangover, Due Date, Borat ... I guess anything Todd Phillips apparently, or Zach Galifianakis, just isn't funny. I guess they're both "stupid" comedies, but within there is something different. If I can find a TPB, as I am sure issues are just as ridiculously priced as the first series, I will give Daniel Way's take a try. (I also did take your suggestion, I think it was yours, on Clerks 2, I just haven't got it in the mail from Netflix yet, so I still trust your opinion.) ;-) Personal opinion, but I'd skip Daniel Way's run: Deadpool has two sides, one is the comedic (often, but not always fourth-wall breaking) side filled with dark humor, snark and Deadpool being submitted to all kinds of amusing injuries while coming up with inventive ways to take out opponents. The other side is the more dramatic side: Deadpool is a very disturbed individual and knows that he is, but he's genuinely trying to become a better person. It's just that due to his insanity he has little to no control over himself. My favourite runs are the ones that mix both sides. Joe Kelly's run manages to mix both sides the best, with Deadpool doing some really dark stuff from time to time which is definitely not played for laughs. Gail Simone's Deadpool was more sympathetic, but still mixed the humor with genuine emotion. Fabian Nicieza Deadpool and Cable did it as well for most of the run (until Fabian was forced to remove Cable from the book, then the title loses its way). In recent years Duggan/Posehn's run (haven't read a lot of it so far) is interesting in that they seem to alternate between comedic arcs and serious arcs, mostly fueled by Deadpool discovering he has a daughter. And for a very straight take, there is Remender's X-Force, where Deadpool jokes a little, but overall somehow ends up the moral center of the team. |
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Post by batlaw on Aug 8, 2015 4:02:01 GMT -5
For me personally, I like the idea of deadpool more than I like deadpool himself, from what little I've read of him (which is very very little). Even if the movie isn't great, I'm sure I'll enjoy it more and be more entertained by it than any deadpool I've experienced thus far.
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Post by impulse on Aug 8, 2015 23:13:10 GMT -5
Specific tastes will always vary on which is the best, but one thing I want to emphasize to anyone wanting to take on Deadpool is to skip David Lapham's Deadpool MAX run like the plague. I can admit I am not a huge fan of his writing, but I found this version by far the worst by a large margin.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2015 13:37:44 GMT -5
On another tack, anyone want to see Pixels? The reviews have been.... mixed.
This one for example (do not view if you are offended by very robust language!):
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2015 13:43:36 GMT -5
I really dislike Deadpool...like a lot, and Ryan Reynolds usually annoys me but that was funny. Same here. I loathe Deadpool, and after Green Lantern, I would have said you'd have to drag me to the film with a team of wild mammoths before I'd watch another Ryan Reynolds film, ... but that actually looks interesting. |
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Post by impulse on Aug 11, 2015 9:13:59 GMT -5
The first time I saw a trailer for Pixels, it looked like it might be good...and then I saw Adam Sandler and immediately lost any and all desire to see it. He is an automatic skip for me now, which is a shame because I used to really enjoy some of his earlier comedies, but it seems he just stopped trying and caring 10-15 years ago, and the reviews for Pixels confirm that. The MovieBob review is quite entertaining.
I saw Ant Man, and it was better than I expected. I had heard about the production issues with directors leaving, etc, plus, I mean, come on..it's Ant Man. But, it was funny! A lot better than I feared, but by no means the best of Marvel's output. Solid B.
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Post by Jesse on Aug 12, 2015 21:12:54 GMT -5
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Post by thwhtguardian on Aug 18, 2015 11:34:54 GMT -5
With the cast it boasted I always had high hopes for Fox's take on Frankenstein and from the looks of the trailer it just may be that my hopes may have been well founded:
We don't get a good look at the monster and it doesn't seem to be a straight forward retelling but the mood feels right so I'm keeping hope alive.
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Post by thwhtguardian on Aug 18, 2015 11:38:41 GMT -5
That looked great but is it really only Tarentino's 8th film? I feel like he's done more. |
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Post by Dizzy D on Aug 18, 2015 12:43:25 GMT -5
Reservoir Dogs, Pulp Fiction, Jackie Brown, Deathproof, Kill Bill 1 and 2, Inglourious Basterds, Django Unchained. Seems correct (unless you're counting Kill Bill as two different).
I think they only count directing though. (So True Romance, Dusk till Dawn and so on are out).
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Post by thwhtguardian on Aug 18, 2015 15:41:52 GMT -5
Reservoir Dogs, Pulp Fiction, Jackie Brown, Deathproof, Kill Bill 1 and 2, Inglourious Basterds, Django Unchained. Seems correct (unless you're counting Kill Bill as two different). I think they only count directing though. (So True Romance, Dusk till Dawn and so on are out). I was counting kill bill as two films but I can see where he'd count them as one but what about Four Rooms? He only directed one segment but the same is true of Grind House. |
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