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Post by impulse on Dec 5, 2014 13:46:35 GMT -5
Is it just me or does Terminator: Genisys look pretty bad? I'm a big fan of the first two movies (Salvation was OK) but this looks...meh. What an odd choice. Why does there need to be more than two Terminator movies? They wrapped everything up nicely in the two Terminator movies. Yessiree, both Terminator movies sure were good. Both. Of them. Because there are two.  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2014 15:26:14 GMT -5
 Just fan art, but it he looks anything close to this I'm happy. In other news, Jared Leto has been cast to play The Joker and Margot Robbie to play Harley Quinn in the upcoming Suicide Squad movie. I like these picks, and I think Leto has the potential to match Ledger's performance. Still not sold on Will Smith as Deadshot, but I'm a bit more excited about this movie now. What do you think of the rumors that Oprah is their first choice to play Amanda Waller for the movie....? Supposedly they have been in touch with her representatives to discuss the possibility... -M |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2014 15:30:22 GMT -5
I'm absolutely in favour of not doing a Strange origin (I don't know if I posted my reasons here or on another board already, but at the risk of repeating myself, I"ll post them here). 1. The original stories started with Strange in residence and did his origin later. 2. (to me) Dr. Strange is interesting as the master of the mystic arts, not as a student. Not as somebody who is starting to figure out things, but as a person of knowledge. He needs to have an aura of confidence and power. He's the man people go to if they have nowhere to go. 2b. Having him start as a student and become the master in a single movie would trivialize the long path that Strange needed to becomes the master. Strange's power is knowledge and to gather knowledge takes time. There is no magic serum he sips, no magic hammer he lifts to become who he is. 3. The origin of Strange as told in comics would make for a pretty bad film: Strange is a witness, incapable of affecting the conflict between Mordo and the Ancient One. Changing the story to make Strange more of an agent, would run into problem 2b. Point of the original story is that Strange is powerless against Mordo and accepts that, allowing him to open himself to the Ancient One's teachings. (Is it obvious I really love Dr. Strange.) I'm torn on this, because I believe that the points you are making as well as the ones that Simon Garth is making are both completely valid. As a long-time fan of Dr. Strange, I don't need his origin to be retold because I know it inside and out. From a cinematic standpoint, unless it is critical to the story being told (and I doubt they use Baron Mordo, who just isn't interesting visually or character-wise, unless you can really delve into his backstory, which is a whole other issue), then I don't see the reason for it to take up too much screentime because I just want to see him dealing with apocalypse-level mystical threats that no one else can handle (Shuma Gorath would be so cool to see). However, for someone like my wife, who is more a casual fan, she is going to want to know how Dr. Strange got to be the Master of the Mystic Arts or Sorceror Supreme (if they go that route), because she would have a hard time just accepting that this guy is the greatest sorceror on Earth. Was he born that way, is it because of the mystical artifacts (Eye of Agamotto, Cloak of Levitation, etc.), or did he have to study to get there; those are all questions she would ask, and she would feel unsatisfied if there was no reason given other than "he just is". I've said it before (not sure if it was here or elsewhere), I think the best track is to start with Strange as Sorcerer Supreme and use the 2nd Mordo storyline that sets up Dormammu as the spine of the first movie-Doc is established, gets it taken away and is on the run, explores the magic world, danger at every turn and something bigger ad badder than Mordo lurking in the background, you can then weave in flashbacks of Doc and Mordo's first conflict revealing his origin as it is germane to the story, but it is not the focus of the story. It becomes a part of the bigger tapestry but the action/conflict is Strange vs. Mordo, ratchet up the tension, have the climax and denouement and then in the post credit scene reveal Dormammu as the power behind Mordo setting up the next movie. But then I am not a filmmaker so what do I know... -M |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2014 20:30:21 GMT -5
Just fan art, but it he looks anything close to this I'm happy. In other news, Jared Leto has been cast to play The Joker and Margot Robbie to play Harley Quinn in the upcoming Suicide Squad movie. I like these picks, and I think Leto has the potential to match Ledger's performance. Still not sold on Will Smith as Deadshot, but I'm a bit more excited about this movie now. What do you think of the rumors that Oprah is their first choice to play Amanda Waller for the movie....? Supposedly they have been in touch with her representatives to discuss the possibility... -M First I've heard of it. Interesting! |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2014 20:52:44 GMT -5
I think something similar to Star-Lord as a kid in the GotG movie would be the way to go. I've read very little Dr Strange, though, so maybe my understanding of his origin is miasing crucial elements.
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Post by berkley on Dec 6, 2014 1:37:17 GMT -5
I like the idea of roughly following the Ditko-Lee comics, with the first film pitting Strange against Mordo, barely holding his own for a long while, then failing to do so, and finally revealing Dormammu as the power behind Mordo at the end. The second film would be Strange on the run from Mordo and his minions, flight his only response to this seemingly hopeless struggle; the ortigin could be slotted in here as a flashback. The third would give us the mind-blowing (hopefully visual as well as mental) extra-dimensional journey to the Dark Domain and the final confrontation with Dormammu himslef. In this last bit I'd drop the whole pincers of power bit, which has never worked for me, and focus on the counter-intuitive climax that had Strange aiding Dormammu in keeping the Mindless Ones under control and Dormammu reluctantly granting him mercy and safe passage back home, with a promise not to attack earth.
BTW, I haven't read these comics for many a year, so I may well have some of that garbled.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2014 17:34:48 GMT -5
New Mad Max: Fury Road trailer:  |
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Post by Jesse on Dec 15, 2014 3:44:16 GMT -5
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Post by thwhtguardian on Dec 15, 2014 13:23:48 GMT -5
New Mad Max: Fury Road trailer: I love Mad Max as much as the next testosterone junkie, but to me what made the previous movies so much fun was the fact that they were so low budget that they almost looked real where as this one looks a little too polished. Still, I'll bet it will be fun. |
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Post by BigPapaJoe on Dec 15, 2014 13:31:06 GMT -5
That's a perfect "cool story bro" GIF. Right-click, save.
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Post by thwhtguardian on Dec 20, 2014 15:48:39 GMT -5
Not exactly new or upcoming, but I recently saw last year's 47 Ronin...and I didn't hate it. I've read several different versions of the tale(my favorite being Stan Sakai's adaptation) so I know just how far the film deviated from the plot of the original so I can understand why the Japanese audience would dislike the film so much as it would be akin to doing a movie about George Washington that twists it into a strange fantasy tale with out any of the traditional morals or themes that are commonly held dear by most Americans.
And I guess that's the film's failing, it lacks the subtle cultural lessons the original tale held and favors the action while injecting a heavy helping of fantasy. But while it fails an adaptation I think it's a fun Samurai movie in its own right, so if you go into it knowing its 47 Ronin in name only I think you can enjoy it.
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Post by Hoosier X on Dec 20, 2014 20:45:13 GMT -5
We're getting ready to go see the new Hobbit movie!
I'm looking forward to it. I haven't seen a hilariously bad movie for a while, so I hope this lives up (down?) to my expectations.
I'll just have to keep my brother from throwing ALL of our popcorn at the screen! (He takes movie versions of popular books far too seriously. His half-hour rant on Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince should be on YouTube.)
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Post by Confessor on Dec 20, 2014 21:20:23 GMT -5
New Mad Max: Fury Road trailer: Looking forward to this. |
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Post by Hoosier X on Dec 21, 2014 0:49:52 GMT -5
The new hobbit movie is pretty bad. So excessive. I didn't dislike it because it got into "so bad it's funny" territory, like the George Clooney Batman movie. I was laughing joyously at several scenes in Battle of Five Armies because it just got so bad. (My 13-year-old niece kept threatening to leave the theatre "if one more stupid thing happens!")
So it's not boring and I don't regret going. But it is not good.
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Post by Confessor on Dec 21, 2014 12:31:53 GMT -5
The new hobbit movie is pretty bad. So excessive. I didn't dislike it because it got into "so bad it's funny" territory, like the George Clooney Batman movie. I was laughing joyously at several scenes in Battle of Five Armies because it just got so bad. (My 13-year-old niece kept threatening to leave the theatre "if one more stupid thing happens!") So it's not boring and I don't regret going. But it is not good. As a big fan of the book and a fan of the LOTR cinematic trilogy, I quite enjoyed the first part of the Hobbit, really disliked the second and am dreading the third. It's not the Hobbit I know and love, at all. Such a shame that they couldn't just do it as one 3 hour film and stick to the simpler story of a treasure hunt and the slaying of a dragon. Instead, we get a bloated, LOTR prequel, with too much bad CGI in it and not enough of the humour and wonder that made the book so enjoyable. |
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