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Post by Roquefort Raider on Nov 1, 2021 5:38:05 GMT -5
I miss Art Adams! He was never very prolific, but each of his stories (or covers) always conveyed a feeling of pure fun.
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Post by kirby101 on Nov 1, 2021 7:44:42 GMT -5
I miss Art Adams! He was never very prolific, but each of his stories (or cover) always conveyed a feeling of pure fun. AFAIK he hasn't done any interiors in a while, but he still does cover work.
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Post by Ozymandias on Nov 1, 2021 14:02:12 GMT -5
Indeed, my next parcel includes Ultimate X #2, which is the last series he worked on. In the last 10 years, he's only done the odd page here and there.
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Post by Graphic Autist on Nov 2, 2021 12:09:45 GMT -5
I recently read Rick Veitch's Brat Pack. Holy crap, was this series dark...and probably would have seemed even more so had I read this when it originally came out nearly 30 years ago.
I can definitely see how this influenced Garth Ennis' The Boys.
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Post by arfetto on Nov 2, 2021 14:29:49 GMT -5
I recently read Rick Veitch's Brat Pack. Holy crap, was this series dark...and probably would have seemed even more so had I read this when it originally came out nearly 30 years ago. I can definitely see how this influenced Garth Ennis' The Boys. Have you read Veitch's The Maximortal yet?
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Post by Graphic Autist on Nov 2, 2021 14:40:32 GMT -5
I recently read Rick Veitch's Brat Pack. Holy crap, was this series dark...and probably would have seemed even more so had I read this when it originally came out nearly 30 years ago. I can definitely see how this influenced Garth Ennis' The Boys. Have you read Veitch's The Maximortal yet? No...but I will definitely check it out!
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Post by commond on Nov 3, 2021 8:40:41 GMT -5
I burned through Y: The Last Man. It seems to be a series that a lot of people have a problem with due to politics, but I thought it was a ripping yarn. Briskly paced, easy to read, and a great cliffhanger at the end of each issue. I wound up binge reading it, by my own standards, which raises the question, did comics become like TV or did TV become like comics? When it came time for the big reveal, I was a little disappointed and thought it was gonna be another mystery that's so big it's impossible to pay off, but ultimately the story was bigger than the premise and the final run of issues was a fantastic finale. I wouldn't put it up there with the very best Vertigo stuff, but I liked it more than 100 Bullets.
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Post by badwolf on Nov 3, 2021 9:31:28 GMT -5
I'm up to #12. The first 9 issues, the John Byrne ones, are great. Then Steve Gerber takes over for the next two issues, and I was not impressed. Then Peter David writes the next issue, and that was in improvement on the Gerber issues, but definitely not as good as the Byrne issues. I looked ahead and I see the Louise Simonson takes over for an extended run, then Byrne comes back at #31. I have half a mind to just skip ahead to #31. Do that, you'll boost Byrne's ego! (Just check the cover for #31).
I haven't read them in quite some time, and remember all of the Byrne era fondly, although I still favor the earlier issues. The rest of the series is a fog, not sure I even read most of them. I recall Alan Davis and little more.
PS: don't forget to check the prelude to the series, Marvel Comics Presents (1988) #18.
I liked maybe the first 5 or 6 issues, but after that the meta-humor and silliness started to get old. It's probably my least favorite Byrne work.
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Post by badwolf on Nov 3, 2021 9:35:04 GMT -5
I burned through Y: The Last Man. It seems to be a series that a lot of people have a problem with due to politics, but I thought it was a ripping yarn. Briskly paced, easy to read, and a great cliffhanger at the end of each issue. I wound up binge reading it, by my own standards, which raises the question, did comics become like TV or did TV become like comics? When it came time for the big reveal, I was a little disappointed and thought it was gonna be another mystery that's so big it's impossible to pay off, but ultimately the story was bigger than the premise and the final run of issues was a fantastic finale. I wouldn't put it up there with the very best Vertigo stuff, but I liked it more than 100 Bullets. I really liked it but I was disappointed that they never revealed the true solution to the mystery. I am okay with ambiguity but I think if you spend 75 issues toying with various theories then at some point you should give us the truth. Maybe if I read it again I'd feel differently, but I doubt I will do that.
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Post by badwolf on Nov 3, 2021 9:36:11 GMT -5
I read part one of the 2003 JLA : Scary Monsters 6 part mini. It was by Claremont/Josh Hood with a cover by Art Adams. The story is a set up that starts in 1877 introducing a mystic force of creatures that are supposed to be barred from earth by a family of Indians who are massacred , thus eliminating them as gate keepers. Well , they come back to take over the planet and the JLa have to stop them. It was an okay story and I was surprised that I didn't hate the Claremont dialogue. I remember being not too impressed with it but I don't really remember it at all either. I wish I'd kept it for the covers!
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Nov 3, 2021 9:50:29 GMT -5
I burned through Y: The Last Man. It seems to be a series that a lot of people have a problem with due to politics, but I thought it was a ripping yarn. Briskly paced, easy to read, and a great cliffhanger at the end of each issue. I wound up binge reading it, by my own standards, which raises the question, did comics become like TV or did TV become like comics? When it came time for the big reveal, I was a little disappointed and thought it was gonna be another mystery that's so big it's impossible to pay off, but ultimately the story was bigger than the premise and the final run of issues was a fantastic finale. I wouldn't put it up there with the very best Vertigo stuff, but I liked it more than 100 Bullets. I didn't have any issues with the politics. My issue was that every single character acted like a drooling crap-flinging moron at almost every turn. And I don't mean just Ampersand. It honestly felt like Vaughan sat down and said..."Okay. I've got the characters in this situation. What's the dumbest thing they could do? Nah...that's maybe a bit too dumb. What's the second dumbest thing they could do? Yeah...that's the ticket."
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Post by The Cheat on Nov 3, 2021 13:56:54 GMT -5
I didn't have any issues with the politics. My issue was that every single character acted like a drooling crap-flinging moron at almost every turn. And I don't mean just Ampersand. It honestly felt like Vaughan sat down and said..."Okay. I've got the characters in this situation. What's the dumbest thing they could do? Nah...that's maybe a bit too dumb. What's the second dumbest thing they could do? Yeah...that's the ticket." Yeah, I re-read it recently and found Yorick insufferably annoying.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Nov 3, 2021 13:59:34 GMT -5
I didn't have any issues with the politics. My issue was that every single character acted like a drooling crap-flinging moron at almost every turn. And I don't mean just Ampersand. It honestly felt like Vaughan sat down and said..."Okay. I've got the characters in this situation. What's the dumbest thing they could do? Nah...that's maybe a bit too dumb. What's the second dumbest thing they could do? Yeah...that's the ticket." Yeah, I re-read it recently and found Yorick insufferably annoying. It wasn't just him though. Every single character was just drop an anvil on their head stupid.
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Post by commond on Nov 3, 2021 23:03:22 GMT -5
I can see how Yorick could be annoying, but to me there was a precedent set by Jack Knight in James Robinson's Starman.
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Post by bashbash99 on Nov 4, 2021 8:02:26 GMT -5
I collected Y for awhile back in the day but quit well before it ended and haven't reread any issues in many years. My recollection was that it was a great setup but that ultimately the series just threw out too many red herrings and never seemed close to resolving any of the longrunning plotlines, although since it has been a long time i'll grant that i may be being unfair. Later when i read that Vaughn said that one of the theories espoused in the paged was correct but they won't say which one, i think that really turned me off from ever getting back into it.
Yorick was pretty annoying but people react in all kinds of ways to crazy situations, and i don't recall it bothering me much. But it seems like that was a bigger issue on the tv series (not to go totally off topic), one of those things where something that kinda works in comics doesn't really work at all on tv.
On another topic, count me in as a big fan of Art Adams, always wished he had more marvel output as i'm not a huge fan of Longshot. However i do find it regrettable how many 90s artists emulated some of the superficial aspects of his style without always mastering other aspects of comic illustration... imo of course
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