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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2020 15:23:39 GMT -5
Might not feel like a classic but it IS over 10 years old
I got a spare copy of this cover of The Warriors #1 which for the most part is a pretty faithful adaption of the first part of the movie.
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Post by Calidore on Apr 6, 2020 22:00:59 GMT -5
Pretty much verbatim from the opening, but it's not the same without the music and clips of the other gangs. Also, why does Ajax look nothing at all like James Remar?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2020 22:55:52 GMT -5
Pretty much verbatim from the opening, but it's not the same without the music
Listen to the soundtrack on youtube while reading it
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2020 23:15:08 GMT -5
Pretty much verbatim from the opening, but it's not the same without the music and clips of the other gangs. Also, why does Ajax look nothing at all like James Remar? Though they had the rights to adapt the movie, they might not have had the likeness rights for all the performers. Sometimes actors have in their contracts that they retain their likeness rights on a project, which means they have to be paid extra beyond the license of the property for someone to use their likeness in an adaptation or a toy. Some simply will not allow their likeness to be used at all. So a publisher who forks over money for the license and doesn't get the likeness rights has to negotiate separately with the actor to get the likeness rights. It all depends on the language of the contract the performer has with the studio, or what their agent negotiated for them. Or the artist was just not good with likenesses. -M
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Post by Calidore on Apr 7, 2020 9:58:56 GMT -5
Also, why does Ajax look nothing at all like James Remar? Though they had the rights to adapt the movie, they might not have had the likeness rights for all the performers. Sometimes actors have in their contracts that they retain their likeness rights on a project, which means they have to be paid extra beyond the license of the property for someone to use their likeness in an adaptation or a toy. Some simply will not allow their likeness to be used at all. So a publisher who forks over money for the license and doesn't get the likeness rights has to negotiate separately with the actor to get the likeness rights. It all depends on the language of the contract the performer has with the studio, or what their agent negotiated for them.
That's a good point, didn't think of that. Since this Ajax couldn't possibly look less like Remar, I'm going to guess that you're right and it was deliberate.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2020 12:04:19 GMT -5
They did use a couple of actual photos of the cast for the covers...and James Remar loves to sign books at fan conventions
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Post by EdoBosnar on Apr 8, 2020 3:46:59 GMT -5
PogoWalt Kelly Sticking with my extreme comfort-food reading material of late, I picked up this little collection (from 1951!) that I found in a comic book shop in Zagreb a few months ago. What can I saw about Pogo that hasn't already been said? This one has it all: humor, philosophy, social commentary, politics... ...and even high courtroom drama:
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Post by nerdygirl905 on Apr 8, 2020 13:47:57 GMT -5
Been reading the old Hawkman comics. The sexism with Hawkgirl is just... meh, and I wonder on how the heck did the Halls get a dog (Penny, kinda plays a plot point and a gag in a story in issue 3 or 4) that I’m pretty sure was forgotten later.
Also the letter page of issue 6 includes a letter saying that the Halls gotta have a baby since they have been married for three years. Which the person named Kiddyhawk. That’s... horrible. But if you think of it, it actually seems neat. Look at Aquaman and Mera. They had a baby, so why not this heroes who were established as a married couple? Of course, the Silver Age babies talked like Bizarro and were dumb, but give it some years plus the must-have age-up issue and we have a nice kid! Who would be eventually killed Aquababy-style.
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Post by Batflunkie on Apr 8, 2020 14:10:32 GMT -5
Been reading the old Hawkman comics. The sexism with Hawkgirl is just... meh, and I wonder on how the heck did the Halls get a dog (Penny, kinda plays a plot point and a gag in a story in issue 3 or 4) that I’m pretty sure was forgotten later. I tried to get into silver age Hawkman and Adam Strange, but it was just so "meh". I feel like DC, early on, never really had a good grasp on science fiction when compared to Marvel and this is coming from someone who loves Green Lantern
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2020 1:30:08 GMT -5
Starting to read through this...bit of bias of course as I'm from the UK albeit not there at the moment...
This collection collects the Captain Britain stories from those merged Super Spider-Man issues that were published in England in the 70s.
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Post by berkley on Apr 10, 2020 2:32:12 GMT -5
Most recently it was Volume 2 of the collected Rogue Trooper, which almost but not quite brings you to the end of the stories written by the character's creator Gerry Finley-Day. I wish they had extended it to contain the rest of his run but maybe there was more left than I tink.
And an extended Nemesis the Warlock serial, The Gothic Empire: probably my favourite Nemesis story so far and I have to say largely because of Bryan Talbot's artwork. No offence to Kevin O'Neill, the original artist on this 2000 AD series - I like his work with Alan Moore on League of Extraordinary Gentleman - but Talbot's more my style (and I think O'Neill's later stuff is better than his earlier).
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Post by Cei-U! on Apr 10, 2020 8:20:13 GMT -5
Been reading the old Hawkman comics. The sexism with Hawkgirl is just... meh, and I wonder on how the heck did the Halls get a dog (Penny, kinda plays a plot point and a gag in a story in issue 3 or 4) that I’m pretty sure was forgotten later. I tried to get into silver age Hawkman and Adam Strange, but it was just so "meh". I feel like DC, early on, never really had a good grasp on science fiction when compared to Marvel and this is coming from someone who loves Green Lantern That's a pretty surreal take on things when you consider how many DC folks came out of the sci-fi scene. Mort Weisinger, Julius Schwarz, Jack Schiff, and Bernie Breslauer all began their careers as editors for Ned Pines' ci-fi pulps, while their comics' writing staffs included experienced sci-fi/fantasy writers Otto Binder, John Broome, Gardner Fox, and future Hall-of-Famer Edmond Hamilton and previously included Manly Wade Wellman, Henry Kuttner, Horace L. Gold, Alfred Bester (another HoFer), and even Robert Bloch (who wrote one Flash story in '45 before deciding comics were too much work). But maybe, given the Comics Code restrictions and the general consensus that the average comic reader was 8-12 years old, dumbing their work down loosened that good grasp you mention.
Cei-U! I summon the surfeit of experience!
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Post by Confessor on Apr 10, 2020 8:23:20 GMT -5
Starting to read through this...bit of bias of course as I'm from the UK albeit not there at the moment...
This collection collects the Captain Britain stories from those merged Super Spider-Man issues that were published in England in the 70s.
I take it that book includes the Alan Moore stories then? If so, those are great. I always regarded Captain Britain as a super-lame character, but those were the stories that (fairly recently) changed my mind and turned me onto someone who actually thinks that Captain Britian is quite a cool character after all. EDIT: I just Googled it and the Alan Moore stories came later, in 1982. So probably not in this book. I guess that these are the issues that tingramretro was reviewing in his old Captain Britain review thread.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Apr 10, 2020 9:33:42 GMT -5
I tried to get into silver age Hawkman and Adam Strange, but it was just so "meh". I feel like DC, early on, never really had a good grasp on science fiction when compared to Marvel and this is coming from someone who loves Green Lantern That's a pretty surreal take on things when you consider how many DC folks came out of the sci-fi scene. Mort Weisinger, Julius Schwarz, Jack Schiff, and Bernie Breslauer all began their careers as editors for Ned Pines' ci-fi pulps, while their comics' writing staffs included experienced sci-fi/fantasy writers Otto Binder, John Broome, Gardner Fox, and future Hall-of-Famer Edmond Hamilton and previously included Manly Wade Wellman, Henry Kuttner, Horace L. Gold, Alfred Bester (another HoFer), and even Robert Bloch (who wrote one Flash story in '45 before deciding comics were too much work). But maybe, given the Comics Code restrictions and the general consensus that the average comic reader was 8-12 years old, dumbing their work down loosened that good grasp you mention.
Cei-U! I summon the surfeit of experience!
I'm equally perplexed by the statement as early Marvel's "science fiction" largely consisted of radiation, transistors and magnetism are magic. If anything DC was a bit too slavishly tied to the Golden Age SF that those luminaries you cited cut their teeth on in the pulps. As the likes of Bradbury and Heinlein transitioned to the slicks and Philip Jose Farmer published his seminal novella The Lovers in the early 50s the transition started from pulp and hard SF to what would become The New Wave.
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Post by Batflunkie on Apr 10, 2020 10:18:24 GMT -5
That's a pretty surreal take on things when you consider how many DC folks came out of the sci-fi scene. Mort Weisinger, Julius Schwarz, Jack Schiff, and Bernie Breslauer all began their careers as editors for Ned Pines' ci-fi pulps, while their comics' writing staffs included experienced sci-fi/fantasy writers Otto Binder, John Broome, Gardner Fox, and future Hall-of-Famer Edmond Hamilton and previously included Manly Wade Wellman, Henry Kuttner, Horace L. Gold, Alfred Bester (another HoFer), and even Robert Bloch (who wrote one Flash story in '45 before deciding comics were too much work). But maybe, given the Comics Code restrictions and the general consensus that the average comic reader was 8-12 years old, dumbing their work down loosened that good grasp you mention.
Cei-U! I summon the surfeit of experience!
I'm equally perplexed by the statement as early Marvel's "science fiction" largely consisted of radiation, transistors and magnetism are magic. If anything DC was a bit too slavishly tied to the Golden Age SF that those luminaries you cited cut their teeth on in the pulps. As the likes of Bradbury and Heinlein transitioned to the slicks and Philip Jose Farmer published his seminal novella The Lovers in the early 50s the transition started from pulp and hard SF to what would become The New Wave. Yes, I'm aware of how broad and how inane that statement was and I already regret it >_>;
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