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Post by tingramretro on Jul 20, 2016 3:51:49 GMT -5
One letter writer asked for a Canadian hero to join the JLI and Mark Waid announced that letterhack T.M. Maple will join next month. Still miss him. Jim Burke was a legend, taken far to soon.
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Post by shaxper on Sept 7, 2016 20:46:04 GMT -5
Justice League International #20 "If It's Tuesday, This Must Be -- APOKOLIPS!" plot/breakdowns: Keith Giffen script: J.M. DeMatteis pencils: Ty Templeton inks: Joe Rubenstein letters: Bob Lappan colors: Gene D'Angelo editor: Andy Helfer Featuring The New Gods created by Jack Kirby grade: B- As always, the humor is firing on all cylinders: and DeMatteis continues to make his best contributions with strong/endearing anti-hero characterization wherever he can find the space, often in panels where Giffen didn't seem to have anything specific in mind: But G'Nort remains the one part of the playful humor pervading the issue that just isn't working. He continues to come off even less funny and more obnoxious than Giffen and DeMatteis intend: He needs to get off the team...now. Kevin Maguire is absent for this and the next issue, replaced by Ty Templeton. Ty is one of those creators that I've seen pop up in just about every possible role in comicdom -- I've seen him script, edit, ink, and I think letter, but this is my first time seeing him on pencils. I guess the guy does everything. His work here is...well...inconsistent. Sometimes it's amazing, often times it's good enough, and occasionally its downright sloppy. As an example, here are two completely different depictions of Barda in this issue: I'm sure Rubinstein's inking contributes to the inconsistency (he's heavy on that first image and barely present on the second), but even the basic composition of the face is drastically different in the two images, as is the level of detail. The inconsistency generally isn't jarring in the issue, but it is somewhat distracting at times. New additions Big Barda and Hawkman provide interesting shake-ups to the team, Barda taking the lead over J'onn J'onzz, and Carter essentially becoming the obnoxious old geezer of the group: And, incidentally, wow. That comment about Republicans would be shocking and controversial enough today. I can't imagine how it played at the tail end of the Reagan Era. All in all, yet another fun issue with Lord Maga Kahn that manages to use Apokolips and its characters as an interesting enough backdrop, but I'd hardly call anything about this issue memorable. Important Details:- Rocket Red gets a new costume with more advanced tech: How convenient that the destitute and downtrodden rebels on Apokolips had a suit of armor lying around that so closely resembled Dmitri's old look with subtle visual updates. - Lord Manga is actually a gaseous being in a suit of armor??? L-Ron made some reference to Lord Manga not having a nose, but I wouldn't have suspected he didn't have anything else either! - J'onn J'onzz can turn invisible. According the to the letters page, this is a very old ability of his, but we've never seen it in these pages before. Minor Details:- If you were looking for more interactions between Guy and Lobo in this issue, I'm sorry to disappoint. All you get are these two panels: Even last issue, in spite of all the hype and build-up, Giffen didn't seem all that interested in telling that particular story. - We're told in this issue that Darkseid is away right now, but no further explanation is offered. Where was he otherwise occupied in December of 1988? - There are two requests for the return of Captain Marvel in the letters page. The reply is that it's been considered numerous times, but no plans are in place while his Action Comics Weekly feature is being planned. Plot synopsis: Lord Manga is on Apokolips brokering a deal to get Boom Tube technology in exchange for Scott Free, but the JLI has pursued him, testing Granny Goodness' patience with the barterer, so she simply "takes" Scott, causing Lord Manga to declare war on Apokolips. Meanwhile, the JLI B Team arrives on Apokolips, meets with the Hunger Dogs, and gets their help infiltrating Granny Goodness' orphanage. Barda uses her cosmic rod to teleport back to Earth, where she rallies the A Team and brings them back to Apokolips as well, only a confused Captain Atom accidentally left behind.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2016 23:57:41 GMT -5
Justice League International #20 - We're told in this issue that Darkseid is away right now, but no further explanation is offered. Where was he otherwise occupied in December of 1988? Cosmic Odyssey, the 4 issue prestige mini by Starlin and Mignola featured Darkseid prominently and started in Sept. 1988 running through Jan 1989. It might account for Darkseid's absence, but it's been a looooong time since I read it, so I am not sure how it fits into the JL stuff going on. -M
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Post by tingramretro on Sept 8, 2016 2:12:00 GMT -5
Justice League International #20 - We're told in this issue that Darkseid is away right now, but no further explanation is offered. Where was he otherwise occupied in December of 1988? Cosmic Odyssey, the 4 issue prestige mini by Starlin and Mignola featured Darkseid prominently and started in Sept. 1988 running through Jan 1989. It might account for Darkseid's absence, but it's been a looooong time since I read it, so I am not sure how it fits into the JL stuff going on. -M Both Batman and J'onn feature prominently throughout Cosmic Odyssey, so the two stories can't be happening concurrently. Anyway, IIRC, Darkseid does eventually show up here.
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Post by tingramretro on Sept 8, 2016 2:14:31 GMT -5
I really enjoyed Hawkman's time in this book, I wish they'd used him more. This particuar interpretation of Katar just works for me. A shame the later Hawkworld reboot made such a mess of the continuity.
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Post by coinilius on Sept 8, 2016 3:10:41 GMT -5
I really enjoyed Hawkman's time in this book, I wish they'd used him more. This particuar interpretation of Katar just works for me. A shame the later Hawkworld reboot made such a mess of the continuity. I came in on this series after Katar was no longer a part of it so I can't comment on how he was used here, but I recently went on a Silver Age Hawkman binge and I really just adore Katar and Shayera. Glad to hear that Katar is used well here and not written too off-model just for a cheap laugh (I quite like the funny Justice League but they weren't against mis-characterising characters for a cheap laugh).
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Post by shaxper on Sept 8, 2016 20:59:54 GMT -5
Secret Origins #32 "All Together Now" Plot: Keith Giffen dialogue: Peter David art: Eric Shanower letters: Gaspar Saladino colors: Gene D'Angelo editor: Mark Waid story by Gardner Fox grade: A I hadn't intended to review this one since it's about the original Justice League lineup and not the current one. In fact, this review technically belongs ahead of the one for JLI #20. But, upon reading this story for the first time, I've become convinced it belongs here. The long and short of it is that Giffen, after upsetting scores of intractable classic Justice League fans with his irreverent current line-up, decides to prove he can write a classic Justice League adventure with the best of 'em, and boy does he succeed. Telling the story of the League's founding, Giffen creates an opportunity for himself to portray the founding fathers (and mother) of the Post-Crisis DCU as youthful and still very inexperienced. While they're hardly the anti-heroes we find in the current JLI line-up, the best trademarks of that series are found here -- each character has a distinct and genuine-feeling personality complete with insecurities and rookie idiosyncrasies, and the humor is non-stop: And yet, just like the current JLI at its best moments, there is a degree of seriousness here as well. Each of these heroes has a desire to belong to something larger than his/herself, driving the creation of this team, and the way in which they work together to free themselves from their bondage at the climax of the story is nothing short of inspiring. In the end, Giffen proves that he absolutely could write the classic Justice League if he wanted to (or, more realistically, was allowed to), and this story leaves me wanting to see such a series quite badly. It is true that I've never been a fan of the classic Justice League style of having the individual members act first and then team up in the final act -- the pace bores me because I just want to get to the team-up already -- but the fault for that lies in tradition, not in Giffen's masterful recognition of that tradition. Minor Details:- In portraying the heroes in their classic early Silver Age incarnations, we see J'onn J'onzz relying on his invisibility quite a bit. Clearly, this is what led to Giffen being aware of this power and suddenly calling attention to it in JLI #20. - Superman:Err...does "give poor Clark a tumble" mean what I think it means? Plot synopsis in one sentence: An alien race decides to wage a super-powered battle royal on Earth in order to decide who will assume their kingdom's throne. Martian Manhunter, Aquaman, Black Canary, Flash, and Green Lantern each end up involved in trying to stop the aliens, all ending up in a trap together, where they combine their abilities to free themselves and stop the invaders once and for all. They also get snubbed by Superman. They then decide to form The Justice League.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2016 21:19:27 GMT -5
This was one of he comics that put Eric Shanower on my radar. I had been vaguely aware of him because of the OZ graphic novels he did (I had seen them on the shelves but hadn't read them), but this one caught my eye and made me seek out new material from him-the Aquaman Special he did with Curt Swan came soon after this and cemented my appreciation for his work and then I finally checked out his Oz stuff from First.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2016 21:55:02 GMT -5
Anybody can answer this question is COSMIC ODYSSEY any good? - I'm just curious about and I have never seen it before. I'm really curious about it and I've might pick it up someday. I just can't believe that I ever seen Rocket Red looking like this! SECRET ORIGINS - All Together Now is one of my favorite stories and I was reading it the other day and I have fond memories picking up at my LCS and enjoying it. Great Stuff in there.
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Post by Action Ace on Sept 8, 2016 23:26:13 GMT -5
Hawkman: "I remember the first time we came up against Felix Faust." The ONLY time the JLA came up against Felix Faust with Hawkman on the roster was JLA #103. Secret Origins #32, I read it in this trade that came out in 1990. The story was fine, but the real revelation was the art by Eric Shanower. Of course, this origin is the one that puts Black Canary into the JLA's founding instead of Wonder Woman. The plot is pretty much the same as the original origin in Justice League of America #9. The five member teamwork that saves the day is wonderfully recycled from the original story. The editor of this story, Mark Waid, would write a sequel a few years later called JLA: Year One. This is also the first JLA origin story not to be recounted to a present day Green Arrow.
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Post by tingramretro on Sept 9, 2016 6:23:25 GMT -5
Hawkman: "I remember the first time we came up against Felix Faust." The ONLY time the JLA came up against Felix Faust with Hawkman on the roster was JLA #103. What about #182?
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Post by Action Ace on Sept 9, 2016 13:15:03 GMT -5
Hawkman: "I remember the first time we came up against Felix Faust." The ONLY time the JLA came up against Felix Faust with Hawkman on the roster was JLA #103. What about #182? I should count that one, but poor Felix and his defense attorney would claim it wasn't his fault.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2016 15:53:10 GMT -5
Anybody can answer this question is COSMIC ODYSSEY any good? - I'm just curious about and I have never seen it before. I'm really curious about it and I've might pick it up someday.
I'm still waiting for anyone to answer this question!
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Post by Chris on Sept 9, 2016 17:28:07 GMT -5
Anybody can answer this question is COSMIC ODYSSEY any good? - I'm just curious about and I have never seen it before. I'm really curious about it and I've might pick it up someday. I'm still waiting for anyone to answer this question! Cosmic Odyssey has amazing art by Mike Mignola and Carlos Garzon. Even the coloring is great, really adds to the art. As for the story... it has really great art.
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Post by shaxper on Sept 9, 2016 18:02:54 GMT -5
Anybody can answer this question is COSMIC ODYSSEY any good? - I'm just curious about and I have never seen it before. I'm really curious about it and I've might pick it up someday. I'm still waiting for anyone to answer this question! Cosmic Odyssey has amazing art by Mike Mignola and Carlos Garzon. Even the coloring is great, really adds to the art. As for the story... it has really great art. Never read it, but I notice that, when people discuss the brilliance of Jim Starlin, they never seem go be talking about the 1980s.
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