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Post by Action Ace on Feb 5, 2016 19:31:16 GMT -5
Anyway, so long to a miserable storyline that got progressively worse with each passing issue. Back to REAL JLI reviews... I can't wait for Shaxper to review John Byrne's Genesis.  |
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Post by shaxper on Feb 5, 2016 19:43:57 GMT -5
Ooooo, that's not some one you wanna' agree with... Sadly, in this comic, the white supremacist is making more sense than Englehart. ...Not about white supremacy, mind you. For the record: in the final issue of Booster's solo title, we learn that he's a descendantof the Chosen, and his presence in the 20th century was vital in order to allow him to ensure that his own history occured on schedule. Or something. He conned the Manhunters into thinking he was joining them after he discovered that his agent, Dirk Davis, was a Manhunter and that his company was bankrupt. This gets mentioned by the Linear Men in the Superman comics as why the rogue Linear Man was wrong to try to send Booster back to his own time. So Millennium doesn't get discarded and forgotten immediately after it concludes? That's unfortunate. Still not clear on Booster's deception in Millennium though. Anyway, so long to a miserable storyline that got progressively worse with each passing issue. Back to REAL JLI reviews... I can't wait for Shaxper to review John Byrne's Genesis. I have no idea what that is, but you had me howling in pain at "John Byrne's". |
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Post by dupersuper on Feb 5, 2016 19:56:25 GMT -5
I can't wait for Shaxper to review John Byrne's Genesis. I have no idea what that is, but you had me howling in pain at "John Byrne's". He's not even the artist, so it's not even pretty (though by then Byrnes art had gone downhill anyway...every one got so skinny and pointy...). |
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Post by shaxper on Feb 5, 2016 19:57:59 GMT -5
I have no idea what that is, but you had me howling in pain at "John Byrne's". He's not even the artist, so it's not even pretty (though by then Byrnes art had gone downhill anyway...every one got so skinny and pointy...). Just tell me this isn't something I have to review for this thread...PLEASE. |
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Post by Action Ace on Feb 5, 2016 20:14:54 GMT -5
I think you'll be done by August 1997.
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Post by dupersuper on Feb 5, 2016 20:25:54 GMT -5
I think you'll be done by August 1997. Hey; it'll be a classic comic next year. |
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Post by Action Ace on Feb 5, 2016 20:52:28 GMT -5
I think you'll be done by August 1997. Hey; it'll be a classic comic next year. I love the 10 Years Ago Thread just to see what qualifies as "Classic" now. Who's doing the Civil War Review Thread? |
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Post by shaxper on Feb 5, 2016 21:08:22 GMT -5
Hey; it'll be a classic comic next year. I love the 10 Years Ago Thread just to see what qualifies as "Classic" now. Who's doing the Civil War Review Thread? Hey, we had the community vote on that definition. What the public wants, the public gets. |
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Post by Crimebuster on Feb 6, 2016 11:20:50 GMT -5
Hey; it'll be a classic comic next year. I love the 10 Years Ago Thread just to see what qualifies as "Classic" now. Who's doing the Civil War Review Thread? I will. Civil War #1-7
Synopsis: Crap.
Notes: Sucks.
My Grade: F-
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Post by Action Ace on Feb 7, 2016 1:29:38 GMT -5
I love the 10 Years Ago Thread just to see what qualifies as "Classic" now. Who's doing the Civil War Review Thread? I will. Civil War #1-7
Synopsis: Crap.
Notes: Sucks.
My Grade: F-
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Post by shaxper on Feb 21, 2016 20:33:33 GMT -5
Justice League International #11  "Constructions!" plot & layouts: Keith Giffen script: J.M. DeMatteis pencils: Kevin Maguire inks: Al Gordon letters: John Workman colors: Gene D'Angelo editor: Andrew Helfer grade: C+ I thought it would feel good to get back to the Justice League after spending so long with Millennium. After all, now that the series had been reshaped into JLI, it felt like momentum was finally building for something great...but this issue wasn't it. Just a lot more of the same dull jokes and non-heroic antics, as well as smug quips about lame comic book tropes, while fighting a mysterious threat that I don't care all that much about. MaGuire's pencils are still great, and DeMatteis still keeps the humor coming, but this series lacks any real substance beyond that. In the beginning, Giffen and Helfer were able to find a strong balance between irreverent and meaningful, but the meaningful is gone, and now this is just a protracted superhero reality show. Important Details: - Guy still has his personality reversed. How long are they going to keep this going? - No one mentions Booster having sold out to the Manhunters in Millennium. How have they moved beyond this so quickly? - After crashing their last vehicle before it could even get named in JLI #8, they've finally settled on a replacement that they are not able to destroy even after crashing it into Maxwell Lord's personal skyscraper:  The dialogue would seem to suggest that this was the vehicle they crashed through the roof, but it's not. - The Manhunter Rocket Red has now been replaced with Rocket Red #4 (previously seen in JL #3), whose real name is Dmitri, and who enjoys making bad jokes (just like every other member of the team):  Will we FINALLY see a non-United States based superhero get a permanent spot on the roster??? The Minor Details: Once again, Giffen pulls that charming little stunt where he has a character in the story say exactly what his critics are thinking, and then makes it look dumb:   Plot Synopsis: The team is summoned to save Maxwell Lord from his own building and learn that his security system has been infiltrated by someone/something that he claims to know almost nothing about, this results in the revival of the classic JLA villain The Construct, though it is only being used as a tool by the intelligence behind all of this, which ultimately manages to manipulate events enough to have the JLI and Metron (of The New Gods) about to go against each other in the final panel. |
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Post by Action Ace on Feb 22, 2016 19:57:40 GMT -5
Comments on JLI #11 Shaxper forgot the next panel where Capt Atom and J'onn try to decide if they were weak kneed second stringers and deciding that Max must be talking about Blue Beetle. Mr. Miracle has read some comic books, but found them too far fetched. Batman lets Black Canary be in charge for almost an entire page and she comes up with an idea to save the team....without consulting Batman! "Justice League Assemble!" J'onn tells Capt Atom that the team does not need a battle cry. Then Capt Atom refers to the team as the "Mighty Justice League!" House ad for the previously mentioned Weird mini series. Your new letter column editor? Mark Waid |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2016 20:06:05 GMT -5
"Justice League Assemble!" J'onn tells Capt Atom that the team does not need a battle cry. Then Capt Atom refers to the team as the "Mighty Justice League!" I did not know that Captain Atom refers to the team as the Mighty Justice League ... thanks for sharing that!  Battle Cry ... They don't need one ... The Justice League is sufficient! |
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Post by shaxper on Feb 23, 2016 20:26:13 GMT -5
Justice League International #12  "Who is Maxwell Lord?" plot & breakdowns: Keith Giffen script: J.M. DeMatteis pencils: Kevin Maguire inks: Al Gordon letters: Bob Lappan colors: Gene D'Angelo editor: Andy Helfer grade: A- If I was getting tired of the stale comedy of this title and starting to feel that it was running out of steam, this issue certainly proved me wrong. Sure, the League, itself, is as stale and uninteresting as ever -- good only for more DeMatteis one-liners that just aren't enough to keep me interested at this point -- but Giffen takes an unexpected turn with Maxwell Lord here that really impressed me. His origin is told with the seriousness and delicate artistry of a Batman Year One:  even if all Giffen is doing is recycling the age old story of Faust  with an added martyr/redemption ending.  I was originally going to accuse this story of stealing from George Perez's "Who Killed Myndi Mayer?" (Wonder Woman #20), but I'm surprised to now see that story was published five months after this issue. Wow. Credit where credit is due. So yeah, Giffen took the big lovably despicable corporate bad guy and gave him a redemption. Very interesting twist, and I really enjoyed it too. Important Details: - Just about everything we see in this issue contradicts the much later retcon that Max was evil and manipulating the League all along, especially the fact that J'onn J'onzz reads his mind and determines his heart is pure at the end - Hey! It's the first appearance of Fire (in this title) and Ice (anywhere)!!!   Hopefully a sign that the best is still to come from this franchise! - Confirmed: Max Lord did set up the attack by The Royal Flush Gang way back in Justice League #4 So I'm still not loving this team, but it's nice to see Giffen balance the silly with the serious once again, so ably supported by Maguire and DeMatteis (though I struggled a bit with Max referring to the JLI as his "friends". That felt a bit forced). I haven't given up hope for this team, but Giffen's going to have to eventually start selling us on the team and characters themselves. We can't keep getting the necessary counterpart to all the hijinks from secondary characters who drift in and out of the story. In my opinion, the JLI need to become more complete, complex characters who deliver the whole package on their own. Plot synopsis:
The computer (which never gets a name) tries to set up the JLI against Metron (for reasons that are never really explained, actually...) but does not gamble on Mister Miracle and Metron knowing each other, which prevents their fighting. Max then recalls his origin/rise to power, we learn that the computer was an information retrieval unit programmed by Metron (so does that mean other retrieval units of his can gain sentience? Bet that never gets explored...) and Max decides that he regrets what he has done, destroying the machine, all while Fire and Ice (at this point known as Green Flame and Ice Maiden, members of the disbanding Global Guardians) decide to seek employment with the JLI. |
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Post by Action Ace on Feb 23, 2016 21:35:52 GMT -5
COMMENTS ON JLI #12
Analysis: We are found out.
Recommendation: Speedy exit.
Fire and Ice don't even need to join up before the joking begins.
The Star Trek comedy quote machine just won't stop.
Max will get a second chance of helping a machine make the world "better" for humanity in a little under two decades.
Letter writer The Purple Pickle picks the JLI letter column title, "Justice Log."
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