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Post by shaxper on Dec 24, 2015 13:07:09 GMT -5
I'm just waiting for more info, honestly, and wondering why I'd never ever heard of this guy and his work before. How did he get so many issues produced in such a short period of time? Well, I guess that once he mastered his somewhat simple style, with sheer will, it's not more difficult than what Larsen does. I guess his stories are all pulp, so it writes faster as well, even easier when you don't have to invent a new concept and just expands on the same easy one : babes go indiana jones against various badies. It should write itself... So the reason he never gets mentioned in these conversations is really the result of snobbery, then? People respect the work that Sakai and Larsen do, so they deserve to succeed the work of Dave Sim, whereas someone churning out work with no more substance than what Sim was resisting by going independent does not?
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Post by coke & comics on Dec 24, 2015 13:58:34 GMT -5
You forgot there's a second series of 50 issues, the one with 227 issues is the third series. The second and third series together have 227 issues. The 227 numbering is inclusive of both. The 50 from the 1993 series and 177 new ones with the 1999 series. The 1999 series began with #1, then renumbered itself to maintain the numbering from both series.
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Post by Arthur Gordon Scratch on Dec 24, 2015 15:37:30 GMT -5
Well, I guess that once he mastered his somewhat simple style, with sheer will, it's not more difficult than what Larsen does. I guess his stories are all pulp, so it writes faster as well, even easier when you don't have to invent a new concept and just expands on the same easy one : babes go indiana jones against various badies. It should write itself... So the reason he never gets mentioned in these conversations is really the result of snobbery, then? People respect the work that Sakai and Larsen do, so they deserve to succeed the work of Dave Sim, whereas someone churning out work with no more substance than what Sim was resisting by going independent does not? I don't know, you tell me. I'm just observing as you do that he mostly goes completely under the radar, yet does the work, so I'm trying to find explanations. Many could picture his work as a cheap substitute to manga, even if that'd be quite short-sighted as manga can be just about anything, but it seems to be a fact that most traditionnal US comic book buyers are not that open-minded about mainstream japanese looking artwork. So he is in a niche market that most of us here have very little interest or insight in. It's not judgemental, it's just the way it is. But he deserve a mention here IMO as this thread was mostly about judging the volume and constinence in the work, wasn't it? I was aware of him only through reading the previews catalogue and seeing his work on the shelves, but I admit I've never had any curiosity about it further the basic knowledge I have of it, as I never did for many more traditional US books such as . But as I had no interest in Gen 13, when it got written by John Arcudi and drawn by Gary Frank, I got a tad more interested. This is a one man operation with a very simple concept. If I suspect I wouldn't be interested in it 22 years ago, If I now see it's still handled by the same guy with more or less the same concept, it's quite logical I wouldn't get more curious about it I guess. But if tomorrow he hired Darwyn Cooke to write an issue, I'm sure I'd check it, hahaha.
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Post by Arthur Gordon Scratch on Dec 24, 2015 15:39:30 GMT -5
You forgot there's a second series of 50 issues, the one with 227 issues is the third series. The second and third series together have 227 issues. The 227 numbering is inclusive of both. The 50 from the 1993 series and 177 new ones with the 1999 series. The 1999 series began with #1, then renumbered itself to maintain the numbering from both series. That's right, I didn't notice the jump from #149 to #200, silly me...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2015 6:20:05 GMT -5
I'm actually thinking of checking out a volume of Gold Digger because of this thread. Comics that get churned out at a high rate are usually those I avoid, but I'd like to see what kind of product he's managed to make with a schedule like this
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Post by Icctrombone on Dec 25, 2015 7:41:52 GMT -5
I'm actually thinking of checking out a volume of Gold Digger because of this thread. Comics that get churned out at a high rate are usually those I avoid, but I'd like to see what kind of product he's managed to make with a schedule like this yo dupont, your ride is coming along well. Nice job.
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Post by antoine on Dec 25, 2015 11:24:24 GMT -5
Yes, indeed, but as you mentioned, they are far from the numbers we're talking about... I wouldn't have thought Labil was still drawing it (I wouldn't have though it was still on, hahaha). It was alright, like a tuned down Franquin with Spirou like stories for kids I don't buy them anymore. They were good until about issue #30, but then the quality of the scenario went down. The drawing is still very good.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Dec 25, 2015 12:11:24 GMT -5
Is Thorgal still coming out? The series hasn't reached the numbers a monthly book can, but it's been going on for, what, almost forty years?
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Dec 25, 2015 12:58:49 GMT -5
I'm actually thinking of checking out a volume of Gold Digger because of this thread. Comics that get churned out at a high rate are usually those I avoid, but I'd like to see what kind of product he's managed to make with a schedule like this Good man. It's pretty crazy that it's been going on for 270 issues and none of us have read it.
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Post by coke & comics on Dec 25, 2015 13:22:07 GMT -5
I'm actually thinking of checking out a volume of Gold Digger because of this thread. Comics that get churned out at a high rate are usually those I avoid, but I'd like to see what kind of product he's managed to make with a schedule like this Good man. It's pretty crazy that it's been going on for 270 issues and none of us have read it. Pretty sure I own a bunch of issues of it. I'll dig through my back issue bins when I get home from holiday vacationing.
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Post by shaxper on Dec 25, 2015 13:26:17 GMT -5
I'm actually thinking of checking out a volume of Gold Digger because of this thread. Comics that get churned out at a high rate are usually those I avoid, but I'd like to see what kind of product he's managed to make with a schedule like this Good man. It's pretty crazy that it's been going on for 270 issues and none of us have read it. That might just be a reflection of its quality. I mean, we have some pretty diverse comic interests here. There are even folks here who like Todd McFarlane!
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Post by Icctrombone on Dec 25, 2015 21:53:23 GMT -5
I just bought Usagi Yojimbo book 1 from amazon.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Dec 26, 2015 13:23:26 GMT -5
Yojimbo and Savage Dragon are the main contenders because the issue numbering is consecutive and they haven't taken breaks from in since they started. I'm only counting the Savage Dragon main series and not the 3 issue mini that proceeded it by a few months. I'd put both of them ahead of Sim already.. the last what, 5 years of his run? 6? was completely narcissist and can hardly be counted as writing a comic... it was really more a political action paper. I'm not sure Elfquest counts, since the Pinis have had several others work on their properties, and actually published other books besides Elfquest. While I greatly respect and admire their work, it's not the same 'one creator/one property thing'. Though, I suppose you could argue Larsen was publishing other stuff too.. as he was a big wig (and perhaps still is) at Image.
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Post by Icctrombone on Dec 27, 2015 7:35:47 GMT -5
Yojimbo and Savage Dragon are the main contenders because the issue numbering is consecutive and they haven't taken breaks from in since they started. I'm only counting the Savage Dragon main series and not the 3 issue mini that proceeded it by a few months. I'd put both of them ahead of Sim already.. the last what, 5 years of his run? 6? was completely narcissist and can hardly be counted as writing a comic... it was really more a political action paper. I never got into series that have anthropomorphic characters. Usagi is a stretch for me. Cereus looked boring to me. I never want to buy a comic that is just talking heads , which is what his book appeared to be.
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Post by shaxper on Dec 27, 2015 9:19:47 GMT -5
I'd put both of them ahead of Sim already.. the last what, 5 years of his run? 6? was completely narcissist and can hardly be counted as writing a comic... it was really more a political action paper. I never got into series that have anthropomorphic characters. Usagi is a stretch for me. Cereus looked boring to me. I never want to buy a comic that is just talking heads , which is what his book appeared to be. That could not be further from accurate. It's the most visually brilliant comic work ever, IMO. Check out my writeup for Day 12 of the classic comics Christmas. I'd link, but i'm on my mobile.
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