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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2015 12:29:16 GMT -5
As fond as I am of NextWave, of all the ones I've read, Planetary is head and shoulders above
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Post by Action Ace on Dec 2, 2015 14:40:04 GMT -5
I really enjoyed Authority, Planetary and Crecy, but I'm voting for his "Come in Alone" column. By the way, it's 2015 and I thought I could come in alone by now. There are still other people buying comics in the shop when I go in. Come on Warren... promises were made, gifts exchanged.
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Post by shaxper on Dec 2, 2015 14:45:30 GMT -5
I think Newuniversal had the potential to be the most brilliant thing he'd ever written. Then his "hard drive crashed" and, conveniently, he had no backups of his work. Still not buying that story.
Here's a review I wrote of the first trade for Amazon, before the series was abandoned:
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Post by Arthur Gordon Scratch on Dec 2, 2015 15:58:56 GMT -5
I think Newuniversal had the potential to be the most brilliant thing he'd ever written. Then his "hard drive crashed" and, conveniently, he had no backups of his work. Still not buying that story. So what happened then. There was a dozen issues, right? Was it never concluded? What should still be read? (Oh no... Here comes masochist me again, asking for cues on work from tis writer who almost constantly disapoints me... )
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Post by Warmonger on Dec 2, 2015 17:10:21 GMT -5
Planetary and Transmetropolitan are really the only works that I'm a fan of.
Otherwise I'd agree with putting him in the same category as Grant Morrison.
A good writer, but essentially a Moore/Gaiman knockoff who doesn't really deserve nearly the recognition that he receives IMO.
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Post by shaxper on Dec 3, 2015 8:59:09 GMT -5
I think Newuniversal had the potential to be the most brilliant thing he'd ever written. Then his "hard drive crashed" and, conveniently, he had no backups of his work. Still not buying that story. So what happened then. Ellis claimed his computer caught a virus that fried his harddrive beyond recovery and that he'd never made any backups. It was never concluded. I haven't tried reading it again within the context of knowing it won't be finished, but I think the ideas and characters will still impress you throughout, even in the one-shots that weren't written by Ellis. I'm no Ellis worshipper, but I certainly loved Stormwatch, The Authority, and all but the final issue of Planetary.
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Post by dupersuper on Dec 3, 2015 10:20:47 GMT -5
I went Transmet, but I also loved Aetheric Mechanics, Supergods, his JL Classified arc, his Moon Knight arc...
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Dec 3, 2015 18:36:46 GMT -5
He also wrote an episode of the Justice League Cartoon featuring the Atom that I liked a lot. (Waaaaaaay better than either novel.)
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Dec 3, 2015 19:07:41 GMT -5
Or Planetary.
(A) I'm totally an Ellis worshipper,
(B) I kind of understand what everyone sees in it,
(C) I'm in general I'm a fan of cynically optimistic science fiction,
(D) But in practice the whole thing reads like League of Extraordinary Gentlemen for stupid people.
League Fan: "Ah yes, I believe that next to John Carter we have the Aleph from the Jorge Luis Borges story of the same name, which denotes the entirety of the universe in both symbolic and actual contexts."
Planetary Fan: "I done sawwed Dracumestien!"
*Tries to clap for self, misses*
Plus those huge damn panels means there's not a lot of actual content in the book. Like, three things happen in every issue. Tops.
It's structurally interesting - nobody else except for Dave Sim (sorta) was really pacing comics in that way - and it was influential. But influential in a way that made comics worse, especially in terms of value-for-money. In a truly just universe, everyone would have ripped off Nextwave instead, and comics would be 1,046% awesomer.
Just to disagree with Shaxper, I do think I liked the last issue. I don't remember anything that happened in it - I keep trying to reread the series and giving up - but I think I thought at the time it was good.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2015 19:29:13 GMT -5
Or Planetary. (A) I'm totally an Ellis worshipper, (B) I kind of understand what everyone sees in it, (C) I'm in general I'm a fan of cynically optimistic science fiction, (D) But in practice the whole thing reads like League of Extraordinary Gentlemen for stupid people. League Fan: "Ah yes, I believe that next to John Carter we have the Aleph from the Jorge Luis Borges story of the same name, which denotes the entirety of the universe in both symbolic and actual contexts." Planetary Fan: "I done sawwed Dracumestien!" *Tries to clap for self, misses* Plus those huge damn panels means there's not a lot of actual content in the book. Like, three things happen in every issue. Tops. It's structurally interesting - nobody else except for Dave Sim (sorta) was really pacing comics in that way - and it was influential. But influential in a way that made comics worse, especially in terms of value-for-money. In a truly just universe, everyone would have ripped off Nextwave instead, and comics would be 1,046% awesomer. Just to disagree with Shaxper, I do think I liked the last issue. I don't remember anything that happened in it - I keep trying to reread the series and giving up - but I think I thought at the time it was good. The first issues of Planetary and LEague of Extraordinary Gentlemen were released a month of each other in 199 (March/April), and the Planetary preview story in the back of Gen 13 and another Wildstorm book was published before either (Sep 1998), so technically League would be a Planetary for smart people because Planetary came first I happen to disagree with that assessment, but to each his own. -M
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2015 17:26:51 GMT -5
My only exposure of Warren Ellis work is Iron Man and DC Universe Work and now I'm going to check out his James Bond from Dynamite Comics soon.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Dec 4, 2015 17:32:07 GMT -5
My only exposure of Warren Ellis work is Iron Man and DC Universe Work and now I'm going to check out his James Bond from Dynamite Comics soon. You should try some of his good work.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2015 17:35:53 GMT -5
My only exposure of Warren Ellis work is Iron Man and DC Universe Work and now I'm going to check out his James Bond from Dynamite Comics soon. You should try some of his good work. What are the best examples of his better (good) work?
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Dec 4, 2015 17:43:26 GMT -5
You should try some of his good work. What are the best examples of his better (good) work? Planetary and Transmetropolitan are generally regarded as his best works. If you want something a bit less daunting...Nextwave is a hoot...as long as you don't mind people having fun with superheros. Red is a quick and entertaining spy/thriller title. If you like history, Crecy is an good read. Global Frequency is pretty damn good, though it's episodic.
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Dec 4, 2015 17:51:29 GMT -5
What all DID he do for DC. There was a JLA Classified story, I think there was one Batman story somewhere... was that it?
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