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Post by Cei-U! on Nov 27, 2015 22:42:35 GMT -5
This is going to be very tough. I may end up with a lot of comic strip creators. Off the top of my head, my favorite comic book creator all seem to be people who specializes in either writing or drawing (not both). Kurt, are we allowed to pick creators who sometimes do plots/scripts/art on a series and sometimes just do one or the other? If that's allowed, I'm guessing our picks would be restricted to the works where they did all the heavy lifting. That's perfectly acceptable. I have one creator on my list who (as far as I know) only plotted/scripted/drew one story in a career that spans thirty years and I selected him solely on the basis of that single work. And yes, you should only consider their solo work in making your selection. You can pick Jack Kirby, for instanced, but not on the basis of his collaboration with Stan Lee. Cei-U! I summon the clarity! |
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Post by shaxper on Nov 27, 2015 22:45:19 GMT -5
I know of one story that Neal Adams both wrote and penciled. The writing wasn't memorable, but the art (of course) was. I'm assuming this sort of story would technically be eligible?
I do not intend to include it though.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2015 22:51:13 GMT -5
This is going to be very tough. I may end up with a lot of comic strip creators. Off the top of my head, my favorite comic book creator all seem to be people who specializes in either writing or drawing (not both). Kurt, are we allowed to pick creators who sometimes do plots/scripts/art on a series and sometimes just do one or the other? If that's allowed, I'm guessing our picks would be restricted to the works where they did all the heavy lifting.I hope so. For instance the most obvious would be King Kirby, who carried the weight on stuff like Fourth World, Eternals, OMAC, Demon, etc, but only (co-)plotted and pencilled a lot of the classic Marvel stuff-I hope the solo stuff make shim eligible even if his whole oeuvre is not. -M oops Kurt answered while I was typing and making dinner it seems  |
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Nov 27, 2015 23:06:59 GMT -5
List of 14 so far. 8 comic artists. 3 comic strip artists. Two political cartoonists. One panel cartoonist.
And honestly I haven't even give it too much thought yet.
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Post by Action Ace on Nov 27, 2015 23:10:44 GMT -5
Btw, my only wish this year is NOT to see John Byrne conquer the list. Don't let me down, people... Your brazen attempt to get this vote steered in favor of Todd McFarlane will NOT succeed. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2015 23:20:55 GMT -5
My initial list sits at 23, with 8-10 more that I thought of but rejected as being completely unable to crack the top 20, let alone top 12.
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Post by Cei-U! on Nov 28, 2015 0:01:01 GMT -5
I, on the other hand, cam up with eleven right away and can't for the life of me think of a twelfth.
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I summon the mental block!
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Post by MDG on Nov 28, 2015 10:22:35 GMT -5
This is going to be very tough. I may end up with a lot of comic strip creators. Off the top of my head, my favorite comic book creator all seem to be people who specializes in either writing or drawing (not both). Kurt, are we allowed to pick creators who sometimes do plots/scripts/art on a series and sometimes just do one or the other? If that's allowed, I'm guessing our picks would be restricted to the works where they did all the heavy lifting. That's perfectly acceptable. I have one creator on my list who (as far as I know) only plotted/scripted/drew one story in a career that spans thirty years and I selected him solely on the basis of that single work. And yes, you should only consider their solo work in making your selection. You can pick Jack Kirby, for instanced, but not on the basis of his collaboration with Stan Lee. Cei-U! I summon the clarity! How about despite his collaboration with Stan Lee? I think ink people could make the argument that Kirby or Ditko did most of "the heavy lifting" on at least some of their "collaborations" with Lee. trying to determine now about one creator on my list who is obviously the guiding force on several stories, but I don't think ever provides the words. |
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Post by MDG on Nov 28, 2015 10:36:44 GMT -5
I, on the other hand, cam up with eleven right away and can't for the life of me think of a twelfth. Cei-U! I summon the mental block! Ditto, but came up with a twelfth and an alternate pretty quickly. No strip artists--I'd probably have some on the list if I was more literate in the classic strips. |
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Post by shaxper on Nov 28, 2015 11:18:35 GMT -5
Btw, my only wish this year is NOT to see John Byrne conquer the list. Don't let me down, people... Your brazen attempt to get this vote steered in favor of Todd McFarlane will NOT succeed. I respect this community far too much to have even considered that possibility. But, now that you mention it, I am terrified. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2015 11:57:00 GMT -5
For our purposes here, I'm defining a cartoonist as a comics creator who plots, scripts and draws one or more comic books, newspaper strips or graphic novels. Your choice can partner with others for the inking, lettering, coloring and background art, as long as he or she did the creative heavy lifting. Any genre, any era, any nation of origin, any format is eligible.* ... Can you accept only one (I just can't do more than one) exclusively? |
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Post by Cei-U! on Nov 28, 2015 12:13:24 GMT -5
For our purposes here, I'm defining a cartoonist as a comics creator who plots, scripts and draws one or more comic books, newspaper strips or graphic novels. Your choice can partner with others for the inking, lettering, coloring and background art, as long as he or she did the creative heavy lifting. Any genre, any era, any nation of origin, any format is eligible.* ... Can you accept only one (I just can't do more than one) exclusively?Sure, Mech. Just post it in the Twelfth Day thread on the 24th so I can count it as a #1 when I compile the stats. Ditto to anyone else who isn't sure they can come up with an even dozen. Post what you can. Let's see if we can break our old record of CCC participants (43)! Cei-U! I cast a wide net! |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2015 12:17:47 GMT -5
Cei-U! ... Can you accept only one (I just can't do more than one) exclusively? Sure, Mech. Just post it in the Twelfth Day thread on the 24th so I can count it as a #1 when I compile the stats. Ditto to anyone else who isn't sure they can come up with an even dozen. Post what you can. Let's see if we can break our old record of CCC participants (43)! Cei-U! I cast a wide net! Understood and thanks. |
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Post by shaxper on Nov 28, 2015 12:20:50 GMT -5
I'm really surprised people are struggling with this year's assignment.
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Post by Pharozonk on Nov 28, 2015 13:16:03 GMT -5
I'm really surprised people are struggling with this year's assignment. I think it's the criteria that the creator has to be involved in both writing and drawing. Very few people in the mainstream comics industry do both, let alone do both well. |
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